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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
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If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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I received a 'parking ticket' from these cowboys back in Jan for parking in a disabled space for approx 5 min. while I took my young nephew to the toilet (there were no mother and child spaces free). Having ignored their numerous threats and increased charges they have now passed me on to CCS Debt recovery.... what joy.... they certainly keep moving the goal posts,

April: You fine has been increased to £135 to cover our admin charges

May: Unless we receive payment by 10am on the 22nd May we will start court proceedings

June: This gives you 72 hours notice that one of our operatives will call at your home to collect payment in full (this was 144 hours ago!)

I await the July instalment of this saga. My message to CCS.... bring it on I could do witrh a laugh:D

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April: You fine:shock: has been increased to £135 to cover our admin charges:lol:

May: Unless we receive payment by 10am on the 22nd May we will start court proceedings:lol:

June: This gives you 72 hours notice that one of our operatives will call at your home to collect payment in full (this was 144 hours ago!):lol:

I await the July instalment of this saga. My message to CCS.... bring it on I could do witrh a laugh:D

Yes you must take this letter very seriously;)

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Please remember our troops, fighting and dying in our name. God protect them.

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got my first begging letter last week,do these clowns think i've hit the big one,fools.

must admit it is hard ignoring them as i realy want the fight,and to take the p&$$ out of them.

Ignoring them is the thing that hurts them the most because they then keep on wasting THEIR money with ridiculous demands with no response. That's the biggest p*ss take ever.

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Hi All,

 

I posted my case a month or so ago. I recieved a ticket on my car, no sum indicated and I couldn't see a company name either for contact. So discarded it.

 

3 weeks later an invoice for £85 for abuse of parking from Central Ticketing.

 

Then i wrote to my MP, who wrote to both the British Parking Association and Central Ticketing.

 

I then recieved another invoice this weekend from debt collection agency requesting £181 within 7 days, acting on the behalf of central ticketing. The debt collectors now threaten me with their solcitor.

 

I contacted my MP who has received a reply letter from Central Ticketing with a sample ticket attached, which shows a location for a sum to be wrote - however on my ticket there was no sum or contact address. An address is on the sample ticket (in small print). I cannot remember seeing an address on the ticket.

 

I really do not know what to do.

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Ignore it.

 

The ignore it again.

 

Ignore any communication from the PPC, the debt collectors, or any "solicitors" (I use the term advisedly), who are probably all the same people.

 

On the off chance that you receive notification of actual stamped court papers (which would be delivered with a set of hen's teeth, given the rarity of court action), then you can take the appropriate steps.

 

Their actions are unlawful, and they have no valid course of action in demanding money from you.

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have now been sent a begging letter from graham white the solicitors and he wants even more money, he must be realy bad at his job to be that skint that he has to beg for money.if he ever reads these forums then graham why not try selling the big issue or busking as your not getting a penny from me.

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Hi,

 

Just to keep you posted.

 

By contacting my MP and them writing letters on my behalf to both the debt collectors and the Central Ticketing. Central Ticketing wrote back saying that I should have been charged with Obstructive parking instead of Patron parking abuse, becuase as their enclosed photograph showed, I had parked almost over 2 spaces IN AN EMPTY CARPARK. But who I was obstructing in an EMPTY carpark is beyond me!!! So they cancelled the ticket and apologised for the inconvenience.

 

My MP said that this was Central ticketings way of withdrawing the ticket as it does not stand in a court of law.

 

These private parking companies are a sham - you should either pay and display in a carpark or not.

 

These companies clearly do not consider the environment at the time - i.e. the carpark was clearly empty - as shown in their photo they enclosed.

 

It is alot of stress for nothing - but perhaps people should ignore these threats from companies such as Central Ticketing.

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hi guys, thanks for all the usefull advice, i was actually looking for the central ticketing website to pay them when i found this one, i got scammed on the tesco car park in st helens, just received my first begging letter from Graham White (solicitors) hopefully the next will be the last. Has anyone heard of anybody actually ending up in court with these cowboys?

 

Morrisons now receive my £80 per week shoping trip.

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hi guys, thanks for all the usefull advice, i was actually looking for the central ticketing website to pay them when i found this one, i got scammed on the tesco car park in st helens, just received my first begging letter from Graham White (solicitors) hopefully the next will be the last. Has anyone heard of anybody actually ending up in court with these cowboys?

 

If you are at the Graham White stage then its pretty much the end of the road :)

PPCs in general very rarely take people to court as they know what thier up against. In the few instances when they do go to court is when the alledged has racked up a very large amount of money which the PPC will deem worth the risk- hoping that the alledged has a lack of knowledge and/or poor defence.

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hi guys, thanks for all the usefull advice, i was actually looking for the central ticketing website to pay them when i found this one, i got scammed on the tesco car park in st helens, just received my first begging letter from Graham White (solicitors) hopefully the next will be the last. Has anyone heard of anybody actually ending up in court with these cowboys?

 

Morrisons now receive my £80 per week shoping trip.

 

I got TWO tickets there on Friday!! First one, he was writing me up for parking in a disabled bay as I returned to the car, bag in hand... I had my blue badge on display - BUT it had expired at midnight (I don't check it every day - they are valid for 3 years ffs)... Guy was nice enough, even laughed when I pointed out the car full of "kidders" parked next to mine, they were eating their lunch, not a blue badge in sight... But obv not an "easy" target - Anyway, took the ticket, and the offered appeal form - Went home, rang Tesco and kicked up a storm... They rang central ticketing, who agreed to cancel "under protest" as I had apparently.... Sped off whilst he was writing the ticket - hurling abuse at him!!!! I explained, that if this was the case, then how did I have not only the ticket, but also the appeal form???? She suggested I complain at the store, over the "wardens" lies...

 

I went back, and parked in the "parent with child" as had OH and kids with me - I went to CS desk asking for the manager - the "warden" walked past, said "Hi" and that I had gotten my ticket cancelled quick enough... I explained that I was back to see the manager after my "alledged" behaviour... Was talking to the manger, explaining - When the w@nekr came back, interrupted us, to tell me I had ANOTHER ticket as he had not seen me with any kids!!!!

 

I was livid - went and got my OH, followed by the manager, she was now at the till, just about to pay for £130 worth of bagged shopping - I told her to cancel the transaction, and left the store - leaving them to unpack the bags..

 

Have now raised a full complaint with HO and will NOT be shopping @ Tesco ever again....

 

I realise my badge had expired, but a simple caution would have sufficed... I had it renewed later that day, and to double ticket me....

 

 

Mike

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I was livid - went and got my OH, followed by the manager, she was now at the till, just about to pay for £130 worth of bagged shopping - I told her to cancel the transaction, and left the store - leaving them to unpack the bags..

 

Have now raised a full complaint with HO and will NOT be shopping @ Tesco ever again....

 

Love it! :D

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If you are at the Graham White stage then its pretty much the end of the road :)

PPCs in general very rarely take people to court as they know what thier up against. In the few instances when they do go to court is when the alledged has racked up a very large amount of money which the PPC will deem worth the risk- hoping that the alledged has a lack of knowledge and/or poor defence.

 

 

Currently sitting with about 90 tickets from Central Ticketing, all for parking in the same place, and no sign of any court action (Yet!)

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got TWO tickets there on Friday!! First one, he was writing me up for parking in a disabled bay as I returned to the car, bag in hand... I had my blue badge on display - BUT it had expired at midnight (I don't check it every day - they are valid for 3 years ffs)...

 

my ticket was virtually the same as yours, i had actually just renewed my bluebadge but i put the wrong one in the window by mistake, suppose i have a legitimate case for appeal (considering i can produce a badge that was in date at the time of the "offence") but i thought it would be more fun to just ignore them after reading the posts on here, the letter to tescos informing them of my lost custom is on the way.

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What really peed me off, was the fact that he was quite happy to ignore the cars parked either side, both occupied, and WITHOUT blue badges.... Obviously more profit in the old "Ticket and run" rather than confrontation....

 

Mike

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anybody watch dispatches on mon night? they sent an undercover reporter into a debt collection agency to show the underhand tactics (many not even legal) they use to collect debt, a lady from wirral showed a letter from graham white solicitors who where supposedly acting for roxburghe debt collection agency who where in turn working on behalf of next retail, i had a letter from roxburghe and then graham white solicitors, on monday nights programe they showed a different debt collection agency marlin, using the same tactics, marlin and their "solicitors" where the same person! just using scare tactics because a solicitors letter looks more official, could roxburghe and graham white be the same company? i reckon so.

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i also watched the same program on monday night,and it just shows that these [problem] artist dont have a leg to stand on, also if you look at the address for roxburghe and graham white they both have the very same address. if you go on rouburghe's web page the post code is that of graham white's that they have on thier letter head, so yes the very same muppets

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Hi, I'm new here and just wanted to share my experience with CT. My son had received a ticket from CT for parking in Stirling at a small shopping centre carpark, and 'leaving the carpark'. Asplanning law dictates that stores must supply public parking, there was no way he's fork out 60 quid to these people. He wrote, asking them the basis in Scots laws that enables them to issue parking tickets that appear to mimic those issued by the Police, traffic wardens, and to levy penalties, and received a reply 2 weeks later not answering any of his questions merely stating that he has been "unsuccessful ? He ignored the letter. In April he received another letter from CT saying that the case had been passed to their debt recovery agents..JB Debt Recovery. Sure enough they managed to trace his mobile phone number and called him 2 to 3 times a day often texting asking him to contact them quoting a 'case' number. You know what, he ignored every single call, never answering and 3 months later he has heard nothing.

 

CT are [problematic], they prey on peoples ignorance of the law and their gullability. The Debt collection agencies cannot contact you for a debt that has not been sanctioned through a court order. They know that, but they rely on you NOT knowing that and paying up. My son actually thought about forking out, just to get them to stop calling him, but I told him to stand firm.. I suggest you do also. Hope this helps..

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Hello everyone, I just received my first letter from Roxburgh debt collection agency! i feel so proud.

 

It stems from a PPC a received in november 2008 for the vehicle registered to me, parked immediately outside my garage, in a cul-de-sac on the private development where i live.

 

to date i have only received one letter from Graham 'mickey mouse' White, and one from Roxburgh. How many more am i likely to receive, and should i write to Roxburgh stating that the matter is still in dispute, or is that just a waste of my printer ink??

 

look forward to a reply from you fine folk.:smile:

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Usually 2 from Graham White and they should be the final letters.

 

No point in writing to Roxburghe saying it is in dispute with CT coz it's probably the same guy sending you all the letters anyway so he should already know it is in dispute!!

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