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  1. Hi. I received a PCN from Wandsworth council on Sat 15th January. I had parked in a bay that only claimed to have restrictions Monday-Friday, not on weekends. However, below was a temporary sign attached by cable ties claiming you could only park for 1hr, with no return on 'event days'. Upon parking my car I did look for any indication that the 15th January was an event day. No signage indicated this was the case. I returned to my vehicle 90mins later to discover a PCN on my windscreen. The Parking Officer was nearby, so I asked him why I had got one, when it clearly said I could park without paying. He informed me it was an 'event day' I asked what event? And how was I to know it was an event day? He told me there were signs in the train station. I could only laugh pointing at my car, do you think I drive through the station concourse to see the signs?? However, upon reading my PCN he appears to have claimed the grounds for my PCN were a code 12, which in Wandsworth means, "Parked in a residents' or shared use parking place without either clearly displaying a valid permit or voucher or pay and display ticket issued for that place, or without payment of the parking charge" There is no mention of it being an event day. I assume that's because residents would be exempt from the event day restrictions. Do you think I have a case on appeal for the above contravention being irrelevant to the event, or more on the lack of adequate signage. I could point out that both Islington & Hammersmith & Fulham are capable of putting dates on signage of upcoming events warning visiting drivers of them. I have 14 days from the 15th to appeal. I would appreciate any advice, or even to be told I am wasting my time here. Many thanks
  2. Hi dx So from what I have read so far, it appears I should wait until I have received a 'letter before court claim', and then respond with my complaint in regards to the non POFA & GDPR issues around this particular invoice from NCP, while also drawing their attention to stated system failings in the phone call made on the 20th October by myself at 16:19hrs. Will I be able to get help with the wording of this response, should the time come? You have all been very helpful up to now. I can't thank you enough.
  3. On the whole are NCP particularly litigious, in your opinion? Or do they do the usual 8 escalating letters, then a further 8 or so from the sister debt collection agency and then give up? I have rode out quite a few private parking firms in my time. I do normally respond as the registered keeper and inform them that I will not be disclosing the driver details nor will I be paying their 'unreasonable' parking charge invoice and then ignore any subsequent correspondence. But I am also aware that recently quite a few have started to take court actions. It appears here that the fact that they have failed to send the NTK in time I don't really have to engage with them at all, am I right?
  4. So to clarify. I am being advised to ignore all correspondence to await a court summons, if one should arrive at all. Or is it advisable for me to write a letter from the registered keeper informing them I will not be paying and give the grounds on which why I will not be paying and then ignore all subsequent correspondence from them?
  5. HB I have. I have yet to receive any other advice to my sticky that filled out? I don't think I have defence in regards to my thinking I had paid my parking sessions online, but clearly the payments did not process. Despite my honest attempt to find out what happened to my payments, NCP did not allow me to get to the bottom of it. Is there any point in pursuing this appeal?
  6. Sorry, just to make sure... Surely if there is no POFA jurisdiction on airport land, then therefore its schedule 4 protections will not be relevant to my appeal? Technically airports and ports are outside the law in this case, are they not? No POFA = No protection
  7. Does this mean that your appeal approach won't work in my case? I am not actually dealing with the airport, but NCP? However, with Gatwick being the landowner will the bylaws ultimately be enforced making my appeal null and void?
  8. I hear you Barrowboy. I'll just hold out to see if there's any further advice I can use. It looks like your approach is going to work.
  9. 1 Date of the infringement 14/10/2021 2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 22/11/2021 3 Date received 24/11/2021 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] N 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] N Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/A 7 Who is the parking company? NCP 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Gatwick Airport - Drop Off N Terminal For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. POPLA Sorry dx100uk full sticky now above. Please advise. It seems Barrowboy maybe correct on this occasion? NCPNTK22-11-21.pdf
  10. Thanks for clarifying Barrowboy. I have had a quick scan look through the schedule 4 of the POFA 2012. The conditions don't seem to mention any limited time scale of 14days for the transference of driver to keeper liability. Sorry to ask, but just so I am clear on it, where can I confirm this info about the 14 day condition on the transfer of liability?
  11. Sadly, no Homer67. This is why I called them on 20th Oct to find out what had happened, as I wanted the receipts for my motoring accounts.
  12. Thanks barrow boy ... The wording in brackets at the end does not seem to make sense? Could you make sure it's correct? I assume legally they cannot transfer liability from keeper to driver after 14days from the incident? If so, then it certainly applies here, as the incident was on the 14th Oct and the Notice to Keeper was sent on 22nd November.
  13. I picked up my parents on 14th Oct and dropped them off on 18th Oct 2021 at Gatwick airport. I for all intents and purposes had thought I had paid for these sessions by way of the Gatwick Airport website, and certainly the attempt of payment for the particular 'PCN' I have received was witnessed by my parents while I used my phone to make it. However no payments have ever been taken and no confirmation email was ever sent for both sessions. I called NCP on 20th Oct at 4.19pm to make them aware of my concerns. I was given very vague information about the last parking session and informed there were issues with their system. I told them I didn't want to received a PCN when I have been willing to pay. I have now received one, with no doubt another on its way! What is the best way to appeal this? I have acted in good faith, but sadly have no real proof of what went wrong with payment process. I hope you can help. Or should I just pay the £15 reduced charge and let it go now, as there's nothing I can apparently do to prove my attempted payments?
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