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    • Northmonk forget what I said about your Notice to Hirer being the best I have seen . Though it  still may be  it is not good enough to comply with PoFA. Before looking at the NTH, we can look at the original Notice to Keeper. That is not compliant. First the period of parking as sated on their PCN is not actually the period of parking but a misstatement  since it is only the arrival and departure times of your vehicle. The parking period  is exactly that -ie the time youwere actually parked in a parking spot.  If you have to drive around to find a place to park the act of driving means that you couldn't have been parked at the same time. Likewise when you left the parking place and drove to the exit that could not be describes as parking either. So the first fail is  failing to specify the parking period. Section9 [2][a] In S9[2][f] the Act states  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN fails to mention the words in parentheses despite Section 9 [2]starting by saying "The notice must—..." As the Notice to Keeper fails to comply with the Act,  it follows that the Notice to Hirer cannot be pursued as they couldn't get the NTH compliant. Even if the the NTH was adjudged  as not  being affected by the non compliance of the NTK, the Notice to Hirer is itself not compliant with the Act. Once again the PCN fails to get the parking period correct. That alone is enough to have the claim dismissed as the PCN fails to comply with PoFA. Second S14 [5] states " (5)The notice to Hirer must— (a)inform the hirer that by virtue of this paragraph any unpaid parking charges (being parking charges specified in the notice to keeper) may be recovered from the hirer; ON their NTH , NPE claim "The driver of the above vehicle is liable ........" when the driver is not liable at all, only the hirer is liable. The driver and the hirer may be different people, but with a NTH, only the hirer is liable so to demand the driver pay the charge  fails to comply with PoFA and so the NPE claim must fail. I seem to remember that you have confirmed you received a copy of the original PCN sent to  the Hire company plus copies of the contract you have with the Hire company and the agreement that you are responsible for breaches of the Law etc. If not then you can add those fails too.
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    • I understand what you mean. But consider that part of the problem, and the frustration of those trying to help, is the way that questions are asked without context and without straight facts. A lot of effort was wasted discussing as a consumer issue before it was mentioned that the property was BTL. I don't think we have your history with this property. Were you the freehold owner prior to this split? Did you buy the leasehold of one half? From a family member? How was that funded (earlier loan?). How long ago was it split? Have either of the leasehold halves changed hands since? I'm wondering if the split and the leashold/freehold arrangements were set up in a way that was OK when everyone was everyone was connected. But a way that makes the leasehold virtually unsaleable to an unrelated party.
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Hi again - more advice please ! :confused: MucK Hall have now sent (carrying on from the above threads) another "letter" to me resembling a P45 with tear off edges - inside stating that they have had no response from me and unless I contact them in 7 days ? they will send "field collectors"

any pointers...................thanks.

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Hi again - another letter from Muck Hall ! this time stating this is the final offer as the "Client" has reduced the amount outstanding by around £300 and this is a "generous" offer !!! LOL. The offer is "time barred" and won't be made again !! I guess just like the Debt itself :confused:.

 

and kindly included a direct debit mandate for me to sign......whats odd though is that the balance they want (same ref no) varies from around £650 to £1,472 and now the generous discount to £1,100 !!

 

Shall I ignore this one also :confused:.

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Yes ignore them.

 

Incidentally they put the bit in about it being 'time barred' not because IT IS time barred but in the hope that should the OFT jump on their necks they can claim they told you the debt was time barred ........so no harm done Eh gov..........otherwise why not just say, as is normal, "this offer is 'time limited to x days

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I have an outstanding debt that dates from 2003, I receive letters every so often from different collection agencies but have not responded.

 

My Experian report says that the default was on 30th Sept 2003.

 

Does that mean if I don't do anything till October this year, the debt is unenforceable?

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I have an outstanding debt that dates from 2003, I receive letters every so often from different collection agencies but have not responded.

 

My Experian report says that the default was on 30th Sept 2003.

 

Does that mean if I don't do anything till October this year, the debt is unenforceable?

 

NO.

 

Thats the date the default was put on the account, the last payment would have probably been at least 3 months before this!

 

Remember it's stat barred from the last payment, not the default.

 

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Thanks for that, but just to clarify.

 

I had another debt that has a default date of 16 July 03 on the Experian report, but I have a note that I made a payment as part of an agreed repayment plan in Jan 04.

 

When does the 6 year clock start ticking from, the default date or the last repayment date?

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Thanks for that, but just to clarify.

 

I had another debt that has a default date of 16 July 03 on the Experian report, but I have a note that I made a payment as part of an agreed repayment plan in Jan 04.

 

When does the 6 year clock start ticking from, the default date or the last repayment date?

 

 

Last Payment!

 

JOgs

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Hey thanks guys - I will ignore them - if ? I get any more "letters" I will let you know, cheers again it's hard to know what to do without your help !!!

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Hi Guys , Not been on for a while (so things must have looked up !!:)) BUT I have had another letter regarding this old debt, this time not from Muck Hall but from "Meritforce" Door Step "Collectioneers", based again in Scotland, letter headed "AUTHORISED COLLECTOR VISIT" - they have given me until the 25th May to pay up, stating they are acting for Mackenzie Hall ???:confused: is this another "ignore" letter - thanks in advance - RF ;)

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i received a letter yesterday from debt collecting agency concerning a loan account with abbey.although i held an account with them it was not a loan account.the debt collection agency say cant give me any information except to say was from 1994.this is first correspondence concerning this matter.what do i do?

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i received a letter yesterday from debt collecting agency concerning a loan account with abbey.although i held an account with them it was not a loan account.the debt collection agency say cant give me any information except to say was from 1994.this is first correspondence concerning this matter.what do i do?

 

 

hi, welcome to cag.

as ODC says statute barred.

 

http://www.consumerforums.com/resources/templates-library/86-debt-collectors/599-letter-sent-when-debt-is-statute-barred

 

send them a copy of this.

print name.do not sign

 

SAM

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I'm glad I came and looked at this page. I've started getting nasty letters from a firm that I last had dealings with 11 years ago threatening to come and take all my possessions. My partner was getting miffed with me (to say the least) but I am not sure where the debt has even come from!!! I only know it was that long ago as I reverted to my maiden name 11 years ago and this debt is in my married name. I was beginning to panic at the thought of them coming here - but I have just telephoned them and told them that no one of that name lives here - which is true. If they send another letter I will let them know that I know the law this time! Would they even turn up at the door or is it all threats?

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I once got a letter from red ref an old phone bill. I knew it was past the date that they could claim it so I replied asking for details of all letters between me and the people I owed the money to. they replied with a letter saying something like "sorry, we contacted you by mistake".

I've now (today) got a letter from lowell, asking if I once lived at another address, which I did. I'm not replying to it, just going to wait and see what happens next. I'll keep you all imformed

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I once got a letter from red ref an old phone bill. I knew it was past the date that they could claim it so I replied asking for details of all letters between me and the people I owed the money to. they replied with a letter saying something like "sorry, we contacted you by mistake".

I've now (today) got a letter from lowell, asking if I once lived at another address, which I did. I'm not replying to it, just going to wait and see what happens next. I'll keep you all imformed

 

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