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    • when mediation call they will ask the same 3 questions that are in their email you had to accept it going forward. simply state 'i do not have enough information from the claimant to make an informed decision upon mediation so i refuse. end of problem.  
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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business CEntre Name of the Claimant ? Lowell Portfolio i Ltd How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self   Date of issue –  15 Feb 2024 Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?  The claim is for the sum of £922 due by the Defendant under and agreement regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 for a Capital One account with an account reference of [number with 16 digits] The Defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a Default Notice was served under s.87(1) of the Consumer Credit ACt 1974 which has not been complied with. The debt was legally assigned to the claimant on 16-06-23, notice of which has been given to the defendant. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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Still have the letters folks. Feels good to have scored after having them 'huff and puff' for a few weeks. I wonder how many people were targeted though and how many didnt have the right support. One war at a time I suppose.

 

Again, many thanks for the information and support.

 

Gerard

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Hi all - I'm new to the site so hope this has landed in the right place !! I have just received a demand from another Scottish based Debt Recovery Agency - Mackenzie Hall ??? stating I owe HFC (original Creditor) nearly £1,500, I have not dealt with HFC for many years prob 14 yrs +, definetly over 6 yrs, should I reply with the 6 yr letter or leave it and see what happens ?? I can't even remember if I left HFC owing money to them or even if they are still trading any ideas ???? thanks.

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If you respond they will try to imply you have acknowledged the debt thereby making it enforceable.

 

Should they contact you again then let us know & we'll tell you what to reply........... Also if they get your tel no NEVER EVER speak to them on the phone WITHOUT the facility to record the conversation otherwise everything in writing

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Thanks again for that one - only the one letter so far - I don't seem to be getting any calls from them at the moment, only Allied international ! for a TSB CC (apx 18 months old now)bill I can no longer afford. :( I don't answer them though - one positive of having number ID on the home phone - just had a number of ansafone messages ! asking me to ring back !! one letter dated the 19 th November arrived the other day stating they would recover the balance via attachment of earnings, placing a legal obligation on my home so that I could not sell it to raise extra money etc - the CC amounts to about 7k. TSB didn't want to know and demanded 199 @ month, I offered £60 - didn't go well and they have passed the debt on to Allied.

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Thanks again for that one - only the one letter so far - I don't seem to be getting any calls from them at the moment, only Allied international ! for a TSB CC (apx 18 months old now)bill I can no longer afford. :( I don't answer them though - one positive of having number ID on the home phone - just had a number of ansafone messages ! asking me to ring back !! one letter dated the 19 th November arrived the other day stating they would recover the balance via attachment of earnings, placing a legal obligation on my home so that I could not sell it to raise extra money etc - the CC amounts to about 7k. TSB didn't want to know and demanded 199 @ month, I offered £60 - didn't go well and they have passed the debt on to Allied.

 

well if it ever does go to court and you offered 60 pounds the judge would accept that. did u user the budget template letter on this website? DCA's are like a plague I wish they would finnaly be put down. One day I will get my wish.

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Hi - TSB just didn't want to know, I sent in a financial statement (my own) with a £60 offer, they wrote back wanting £199 ! even though the statement I sent had virtually no disposable income - I think £60 was my absolute limit, I didn't have the benefit of the site letters at the time as only recently found you all !!

 

Therefore I am now dealing with Allied International - I offered them the same the other day but have had no reply as yet - only a phone message, they don't even know if that is my no asa I have never answered them and don't intend to - letters only !!

 

You are right about the DCA's !!!!!

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Hi all - this query follows on from the 15/12/08 and the "old" debt being chased by mackenzie hall (DCA). I have today received a 2nd letter with demand for payment (1.5k) this being a "failure to respond notice" following my dis-regard of the 1st letter. This one states I have until the 20th Jan to settle in full, they say they have obtained my address through a credit ref agency - with a financial link. As previously posted I have not been in contact either by telephone or letter, they have not phoned me either - obviously they do not have my no ! What should I do with it now - phone, write or ignore them ?? I have not heard from the their "Clients" HFC for well over 10 years ?? thanks in anticipation :)

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10 years!

 

Ignore them. If you don't you'll open the flood gates & they may even try to claim that during any communication that you have admitted the debt thereby making it enforceable............ Certainly DO NOT send them any money even in the form of the £1 payment for a CCA request or the £10 for a SAR cos if you do they will set it against your debt & claim that you have admitted the debt by making a 'payment'

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Forgot to mention this crowd of charlatans have 'bought' up loads of time barred debt & they will send out all kinds of computer generated letters from them, Red Credit & other numerous names each one intended to appear more serious than the last. This gives the false impression that matters are escalating when all it is the same Muppet pushing a different button on his PC

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That's the idea.

 

Suggest that you cut their letters into convenient sizes put a bit of string through & hang them on a nail in the bathroom remembering to use them face up:)............. save a few bob in loo rolls;)

 

& oh yes do let us know what they do next we all love a laugh particularly at the expense of a DCA & their eejit employees

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Hi again - the saga continues (from previous thread) - I have received a letter from Response credit management, "Notification of Outstanding Debt" issued on behalf of mackenzie hall, who originally contacted me ?? BUT demanding half the amount, that MH did !! it states I have 14 days to pay !!! any ideas, should I continue to ignore them ?????:confused: maybe if I wait long enough they will give me some money instead !! lol

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