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There is no such thing as a Trainee Barrister and a Bankrupt barrister can still practice, contrary to what the chap has said.

He's actually a newly qualified barrister, and as I understand it, you cannot practise as a barrister whilst you are an undischarged bankcrupt.

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He's actually a newly qualified barrister, and as I understand it, you cannot practise as a barrister whilst you are an undischarged bankcrupt.

 

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-charges-print/80097-bank-charges-challenge-lawyer-2.html

 

The quote from Advot8 indicates that you can still practise. The quote he uses from the head of the Bar Council

 

There is nothing in the rules to prevent a bankrupt barrister from practising provided that the facts leading up to the bankruptcy are not dishonest or discreditable.

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Hmmm... yes thats very interesting. Looks like my understanding may well be wrong then, although it did come from someone who would know. Perhaps its a somewhat grey area, who knows...

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Its just something doesnt seem right to me. I may be wrong and if I am, as Im sure we all have been,I will appologies.

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is Toms court date this Friday?

post office WON 12/11/06

 

abbey.LBA sent 30/10/06.MCOL claim submitted 8/11/06.allocation questionnaire sent 16/12/06.schedule of charges sent 16/12/06.WON

 

2nd abbey claim SAR sent 3/1/07.WON.complaint letter sent 18/1/08

 

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LOL my doctor only looks 14 and im only 28!!! i mean he really does look 14. GOOD LUCK to Mr Brennan. Friday 13th has always been a lucky day for me so this one true to form should be. My 28 days were up on sunday and now just waiting for a letter from the court. My local is Nottingham so i will keep you posted on wether i get an AQ from them or not. Will be watching Mr Brennans case like a hawk. And netty if i wasnt at work on friday i would come to london cheer him on. should be quite a crowd out side of court once word gets around!!! Happy easter every one by the way!

pelim letter sent 25/01/2007

reply from hsbc 01/02/2007

LBA letter sent 16/02/07

MCOL Issued 06/03/07

Deemed served 11/03/07

Deadline 08/04/07

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Its just something doesnt seem right to me. I may be wrong and if I am, as Im sure we all have been,I will appologies.

 

Doesn't seem right to me either, especially after reading Advot8's posts on the other thread that is going on this particular topic.

 

It is difficult not to be sceptical about a newly qualified barrister saying that "It's the principal of it .....I think about all the other people in this situation .....". Why?????

 

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Whether he has an alterior motive or not is irrelevant. The fact is that a legal challenge has been mounted in an attempy to force banks into disclosure of their charges. Would you rather sit on the fence and do nothing at all or support this guy? The choice is yours but am certain that I will not ever again sit on the fence when it comes to major corporations screwing joe public into the ground, acting outwith the law and basically stealing from those in society who can least afford it. I lost my home, car etc due to these illegal charges and YES I for one will support any action that is taken via the courts to stop these B******* from doing the same to anyone else.

 

Who am I? a working class guy, had my own business, worked my butt off. Through no fault of my own whilst away with work there was a fire at my home. I lost my wife and two children. Did the bank care that I could not work through grieving, NO THEY DID NOT. Their charges mounted and mounted and as I was self employed I ended up losing not just my family but a roof over my head. If I could claim against the bank my mortgage was with then I would but the statute of time is against me or I would take the bank all the way for £48k plus interest yes thats not a typo it's £48,000.

 

So while you sit there pontificating on the rights and wrongs and motives of Tom Brennan, remember that we are here for one reason and that is to stop the banks and building societies from financially ruining those that are most at risk. Apologies but we must remind ourselves why we are here and stop getting involved in petty issues and second guessing instead look at facts. Fact is Brennan is trying to force the issue, fact is nobody has been able to get a bank to disclose in court nor by select parlimentary committee. So we deal in facts not here-say and so do the courts. the banks will just love reading the previous posts and will be scoffing at the fact that members of CAG are doubting the morals of this man. Wake up and smell the coffee, to quote an old adage.

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Whether he has an alterior motive or not is irrelevant. The fact is that a legal challenge has been mounted in an attempy to force banks into disclosure of their charges. Would you rather sit on the fence and do nothing at all or support this guy? The choice is yours but am certain that I will not ever again sit on the fence when it comes to major corporations screwing joe public into the ground, acting outwith the law and basically stealing from those in society who can least afford it. I lost my home, car etc due to these illegal charges and YES I for one will support any action that is taken via the courts to stop these B******* from doing the same to anyone else.

 

Who am I? a working class guy, had my own business, worked my butt off. Through no fault of my own whilst away with work there was a fire at my home. I lost my wife and two children. Did the bank care that I could not work through grieving, NO THEY DID NOT. Their charges mounted and mounted and as I was self employed I ended up losing not just my family but a roof over my head. If I could claim against the bank my mortgage was with then I would but the statute of time is against me or I would take the bank all the way for £48k plus interest yes thats not a typo it's £48,000.

 

So while you sit there pontificating on the rights and wrongs and motives of Tom Brennan, remember that we are here for one reason and that is to stop the banks and building societies from financially raping those that are most at risk. Apologies but we must remind ourselves why we are here and stop getting involved in petty issues and second guessing instead look at facts. Fact is Brennan is trying to force the issue, fact is nobody has been able to get a bank to disclose in court nor by select parlimentary committee. So we deal in facts not here-say and so do the courts. the banks will just love reading the previous posts and will be scoffing at the fact that members of CAG are doubting the morals of this man. Wake up and smell the coffee, to quote an old adage.

 

Maybe you would like my log in details and password and the you can post my opinions for me and I then wont have to bother coming on the site. If you think everyone on here is 100% genuine you are dellusional.

 

Why do you think every month we have an email reminding people to donate? it because people come on here, bleed the information, get their refunds and then go off into the night with their payout and sod to the site that helped us.

 

Not saying you are one of these but that is fact.

 

Yes the fact is he is trying to force the issue in court BUT WHY. It COULD be a double bluff. We DO NOT know. So no actual facts have come around apart from someone who has been offered 60% above the value of his claim has decided he does not see that as enough

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Maybe you would like my log in details and password and the you can post my opinions for me and I then wont have to bother coming on the site.

I post only my own opinion here, however I do respect the opinions of others although I may not always agree with them. By listening and reading the opnions of others creates nothing else but learning and I for one am always learning. I have no reason to desire your log in details ISIRIS I have no wish to persuade you nor post for you but many thanks for your fine well thought out comments.

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I posted a part of my story to show the lengths the banks will go to in taking people for every penny they have. I hope none of you ever have to go through that. I am not a bankrupt I fought them all the way on that one. But in the end they won, with legal costs and charges that amounted to one fifth of the equity in my home, I still did not go bankrupt.

 

You don't think it will happen to you, they are uncaring buggers who care about nothing else apart from profit. If I had not paid the mortgage due to spending my money elsewhere then I could hold my hands up and say it's my fault, but hey presto my buildings and contents insurance were also with the same bank so they knew full well what had happened, they also tried to get out of the insurance claim and I had to spend £4k on legal fees to make them pay. THREE COFFINS later they attacked and charged astronomical amounts of interest and I could not deal with it. Result was, bank took all they could from me and did not give a **** about fairness and treating people with any form of dignity. Do I hate banks? No I don't, I hate what they do to people who are the worst off. I detest that they arrest wages, take homes, cars etc because of their charges. If I was to start taking an employees wages, register defaults against him, try to take his home, would the courts allow it. I think NOT.

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Whether he has an alterior motive or not is irrelevant. .

 

Firstly, you appear to be 'shouting' at us in anger and that doesn't bode well for a debate.

 

Secondly, from what you have just written, I have just discovered your background (regarding your wife/children) that I didn't know before and was shocked by what you wrote and cannot begin to imagine what it must have been like and probably still is.

 

Thirdly, you must accept different people hold different views. Just because we don't hold the same view as yourself, doesn't mean yours or mine/ours is any less worthy. I think we all have an opinion concerning our own particular bank and the banks in general, regarding bank charges, and would say that for the majority they happen when your circumstances are at their most dire (financial or emotional or both) and it snowballs etc etc

 

I can't imagine anyone on this forum wanting the banks to win in any way as we are all here for a common purpose and been affected by them ruining us financially and emotionally, though not to the extent you have suffered.

 

That said, I still think, until proven otherwise (as I would be more than happy to be) that there is more to this case than has been revealed.

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I posted a part of my story to show the lengths the banks will go to in taking people for every penny they have. I hope none of you ever have to go through that. I am not a bankrupt I fought them all the way on that one. But in the end they won, with legal costs and charges that amounted to one fifth of the equity in my home, I still did not go bankrupt.

 

You don't think it will happen to you, they are uncaring buggers who care about nothing else apart from profit. If I had not paid the mortgage due to spending my money elsewhere then I could hold my hands up and say it's my fault, but hey presto my buildings and contents insurance were also with the same bank so they knew full well what had happened, they also tried to get out of the insurance claim and I had to spend £4k on legal fees to make them pay. THREE COFFINS later they attacked and charged astronomical amounts of interest and I could not deal with it. Result was, bank took all they could from me and did not give a **** about fairness and treating people with any form of dignity. Do I hate banks? No I don't, I hate what they do to people who are the worst off. I detest that they arrest wages, take homes, cars etc because of their charges. If I was to start taking an employees wages, register defaults against him, try to take his home, would the courts allow it. I think NOT.

 

totally agree with you. bin there done that. :x

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Actually i only became aware of this this evening, SRfrench has been talking about just such an action for ages now and I have been telling him not to be so daft lol, if it comes off the proverbial will hit the fan, if a judge in the high court even just rules for the exemplary comp then am i right in thinking that this will set a precendent and the floodgates will well and truely open

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Hi Breeze, that is what I posted, so your post is welcomed also. My opinion is the one I work with as am sure yours is to you. I accept everyone has a different viewpoint and that my viewpoint is only my viewpoint. At no point have i ever shouted at ayone on this forum, shouting involves CAPS, As to more to this case than has been revealed, ofcourse there is, i gave a brief outline, however am not prepared to divulge to all and sundry what happened, why it happened, this is none of your concern. What is the concern of this forum is the FACT that a bank could take someones home in such as u say "dire" circumstances.

I post only my own opinion here, however I do respect the opinions of others although I may not always agree with them. By listening and reading the opnions of others creates nothing else but learning and I for one am always learning. I have no reason to desire your log in details ISIRIS I have no wish to persuade you nor post for you but many thanks for your fine well thought out comments.
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Please, please everyone! We are all entitled to our views. In every situation some people will see suspicious activity whilst others are prepared to accept it at face value. We can all watch with different views. I know it is hard to read a post in the way it was intended. Can we all just assume the last posting we read is typed in a friendly and informative fashion. That way we don't get drawn into the senseless trading of near insults.

 

PS this is typed in a friendly way too (actually slightly tipsy and just about to partake of some more so perhaps I should say no more today otherwise no-one will understand a word I print!)

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