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    • Welcome to the National Consumer Service Buying any goods or any services??? A used car? - Paying by cash or bank transfer??? - BIG Fail!Share the love – Tell a friend about the Consumer Action Group - your National Consumer ServiceAre you buying a used car...? Protect yourself – read our used car guideESSENTIAL:: Read our Customer Services Guide!!!Twitter - Why you should open a Twitter account ESSENTIAL:: Read our Customer Services Guide!!!Have we helped you today...? Please help the CAG Had a car accident? Been offered a courtesy car?Follow @Real_CAG Parcel Delivery Insurance is Unlawful - The TimesWhy don't you change your profile picture?? Problem with utilities company or phone/broadband? Begin by sending a statutory request for your personal data. 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If you need to add something to this thread then   Please click the "Report " link   at the bottom of one of the posts.   If you want to post a new story then Please Start your own new thread That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help    Thanks   citizenB Posted March 4, 2014 #1   The questionnaires below provide important information which will allow us to help you. In order to use them, you will have to copy them into your own post and then give us the answers – preferably in red below each question. You can start by overwriting the prompt: "Give answer here" below each question – and your responses should automatically appear in red   Thank you +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   You have received a claim form.   firstly - read all the posts in this thread FIRST...   then copy this first msg to your thread - and put your answer after each question   In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us]     Which Court have you received the claim from ? Name County Court   MCOL Northampton N1 ? Manual Claim CCMCC (Salford) ? New beta WWW.MONEYCLAIMS.SERVICE.GOV.UK ?   If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. (not the response page or AOS)     Name of the Claimant ? Give answer here   How many defendant's  joint or self ? Give answer here   Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. Give answer here   ^^^^^ NOTE : WHEN CALCULATING THE TIMELINE - PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE DATE ON THE CLAIMFORM IS ONE IN THE COUNT [example: Issue date 01.03.2014 + 19 days (5 days for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = 19.03.2014 + 14 days to submit defence = 02.04.2014] = 33 days in total   Date of issue XX + 19 days ( 5 day for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = XX + 14 days to submit defence = XX (33 days in total)  if your defence filing date falls on a W/End, you must file by friday @4PM     Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim in full (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. state how many digits the account number has.. Give answer here   What is the total value of the claim? Give answer here   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Give answer here   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? Give answer here   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? Give answer here Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Give answer here   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? Give answer here   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Give answer here   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Give answer here   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Give answer here   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Give answer here   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Give answer here   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Give answer here   Why did you cease payments? Give answer here   What was the date of your last payment? Give answer here   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? Give answer here   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Give answer here   What you need to do now.   Answer the questions above   If you have not already done so – send a CCA request to the claimant for a copy of your agreement (If Applicable) (except for Overdraft/ Mobile/Telephone accounts)   Send a CPR31.14 request to the solicitor named on the claim form for copies of documents mentioned/implied within the claim form. There are two different versions - one for Loans/Credit cards the other for Current accounts   Request 1 - Loans/Credit Cards     Request 2 - Current Accounts     You may use a CPR part 18 request for any other information (not request documents) that you might require in order to defend yourself. Please note that CPR 18 is specifically for Fast Track claims and although technically the claim has yet to be allocated to a track the claimant may refuse to comply for this reason.   If you require CPR Part 18 - this will need to be drafted specifically.   If you are not planning on defending for one reason or another – then you will need to complete an Income and Expenditure form and contact the Solicitor with your proposal. The N9a is already enclosed in the claim pack for Admittance which should be sent to the solicitor named on the claim form   If you are considering making a partial admittance N9b must be completed and returned to the court. Please note in most cases a partial admittance will result in an automatic CCJ for the amount admitted.   You have received a Claim - What you need to do.pdf1.33 MB · 242 downloads     Before Printing the PDF TIP   If you DO NOT wish to print Page 1 (Cover Page) of the PDF, please ensure to do the following:   Ensure you go to your Printer Settings and set it to 'Print from Page 2' (this way Page 1 (Cover Page) should not print out).   Note: This will save you Ink & Paper     Bookmark   Report 3 weeks later...   AndyOrch Posted March 20, 2014 #2   Once you receive a Court Summons N1   As a defendant in a small claims case it is important that you act quickly and do not ignore the claim form when it arrives. Remember, the claim will proceed anyway even if you don’t respond. If the claim goes against you, it will be very difficult to make a counter claim as you didn’t respond to the initial small claim.   You may be unaware that you are the defendant in a small claims case that a Creditor has bought against you. When the small claims form arrives follow these initial steps:   1: Read the Form Carefully   The detail about the claim that is being bought against you will be in the ‘particulars of claim’ section. If this section isn't completed, or has the words ‘particulars of claim to follow’ take no action now and wait until you are sent details of the claim against you. You may want to consult a lawyer at this stage.   2: Respond in Time   It’s vitally important that you respond to the claim for you have been sent. Remember that there is a 19 day (5 +14) time limit on this to acknowledge the claim.You must submit before the 19 days are up, so post your response with plenty of time.If your intention is to defend the claim in full you get a further 14 days to submit your response ...so 33 days in total.   3: Talk to the Claimant   Just because a small claim has been bought against you and a claim form issued, this doesn’t mean you are not allowed to contact the claimant directly. In fact the court encourages you to try and settle the claim without the need for a court appearance. So, try and resolve your dispute directly with the claimant if you can.   Not Responding to a Small Claim   If you ignore the small claims form when it arrives this can have an adverse impact on your financial status. The court will continue with the small claims lawsuit that is being bought against you even in your absence as this is a legal requirement. When the small claim is processed you will be sent a bill showing the amount you owe and any additional costs. The small claims against you is a legal process that will be recorded on the Register of Judgements, Orders and Fines. This information is used to check your credit, so could have a negative impact when you next apply for any credit. To avoid damaging your credit rating reply to your small claims docket as soon as you can.   How to Respond to Your Small Claims Form   When you received your form from the court you will also have been sent a response pack. In this pack you will see the option that are open to you. These include:   • A dispute claim form. You can use this form if you do not agree that you are liable for the small claim being bought against you and wish to submit a Defence. • Details about how to pay the amount being claimed from you. • Details about how to admit to part of the small claim against you, and how you can ask the claimant for more time to pay.   There are Two Types of Small Claims:   Fixed Amounts:   If the claim against you is for a fixed amount of money your response pack will contain three forms. Form N9 (acknowledgement of Service), form N9A (admission form) and N9B (defence and counterclaim form).   Unspecified Amounts:   If the amount being claimed is unspecified you will be sent forms N9 and N9C (admission form) and N9D (defence and counterclaim form). It is vital that you read the accompanying explanatory notes before choosing which form to send back.   Paying the Small Claim   If you want to make full payment of the amount being claimed against you this amount will be shown on the claim for you have been sent, and will also have details about where to send the money. Don’t forget, this must be done within the 14 day time limit or your case will proceed to the next stage.   In some instances you would like to pay, but need more time, you can give details about the delay you would like on form N9A, which should be in your response pack. It’s also a good idea to read leaflet EX309: The Defendant Admits by claim as this gives more details on this aspect of your case when fixed amounts of money are involved. Leaflet EX308 gives details of cases when unspecified amounts are being claimed against you.   Also please read forms EX326 and EX160A   How to Defend a Claim Against You   Disputed claims are handled by filling in the appropriate form from your response pack. You have three choices: Form N9, N9B or N9D. Read the note accompanying each form carefully to ensure you completely correctly. Pay special attention to the allegations raised on the form. If you don’t respond to each the court will assume you are admitting guilt. Edited April 10, 2014 by stu007 Updated PDF added    1   Bookmark   Report 2 months later...   citizenB   Posted June 5, 2014 #3   PLEASE NOTE - WARNING   Once you have received your claim form - the Court timetable comes into force. Not that of the creditor or claimant. If you have requested information with them after the claim has been issued - or have entered into discussion with them and they say something like "We will put this on hold for a period of time". You cannot and must not ignore the timetable from the court.   This thread should serve as an example   http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?416202&p=4547677#post4547677   The OP in the case above was in communication with the CAG Vodafone rep. A claim was issued during this time. The Rep in good faith said he would ask the Claimant to put things on hold.... they did not.. the OP ignored advice from caggers to continue with the court timetable and did not submit a defence. The claimaint obtained a Judgment by default. Edited June 5, 2014 by citizenB     Bookmark   Report 3 yr AndyOrch changed the title to You have received a Court Claim ISSUED IN ENGLAND & WALES What you need to do   style="text-align: center;">     Thread Locked because no one has posted on it for the last 3638 days. 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Hi everyone

 

I'm completely new to this business of challenging debt collection agencies, so maybe I'll start by outlining my circumstances.

 

I have three accounts with Blair, Oliver and Scott - two are current accounts I held with the Bank of Scotland, one is a credit card with Intelligent Finance. I also have a loan account and two more credit cards (loan is IF, credit cards are Bank of Scotland and Capital One) all of which are with various debt collection agencies. As with everyone in my situation, there are many excuses as to why I'm in this state but here are mine:

1) I was an absolute idiot when I was 18 and got into lots of debt. I had a student credit card and had to take out a loan to pay my university fees.

2) I dropped out of Uni and, somewhat ironically, landed a job with the Bank of Scotland. I was fired a year later and it took me six months to find a new job (and believe me, I was trying EVERYWHERE, even the local shortbread making company) and in that time I was unable to keep up the payments on my various accounts, including a student account that had a £1000 overdraft. That's when the problems began.

 

Anyhow, I want to know where I stand with debt collection agencies and what the steps are for finding out what to do - I've tried looking for step by step instructions but have came up a blank :( can anyone help?

A+L - £950 settled in full.

 

Bank of Scotland - MCOL filed 9 Jan for £1500

 

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Intelligent Finance: DPA non compliance sent 26 Jan

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Okay, let me clarify.

I know that there's something about sending off a letter to the bank whom I originally had the debt with, instructing them to inform me how much they sold the debt for etc. There is also a letter telling the DCA that they have to provide proof that I owe the debt. Where can I find these letters and how much do I pay etc? Blair et al and Intelligent Finance are really mucking me about (see this thread:http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/intelligent-finance/60927-intelligent-finance-they-making.html

 

for the full, sorry story.

A+L - £950 settled in full.

 

Bank of Scotland - MCOL filed 9 Jan for £1500

 

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Okay. I know I need to send a CCA to Blair et al. But in the meantime IF have went outwith the 40 days for the SAR, should I send them the letter informing I want them within 7 days or I go to court to get them?

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Bank of Scotland - MCOL filed 9 Jan for £1500

 

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Hi KHM,

 

Welcome to the forum, you will find a great deal of help here!:) We are a friendly lot that do our best to help. You do have to read around though, and its very important to read the FAQ's. We aim to empower each other to deal with their disputes confidently, but it is imperative that you read widely across the forum. It will take a few days to get to grips with some of the information here, but situations with debt don't occur overnight and you shouldn't expect that they will be resolved quickly, it will take time, unfortunately!:o We've all been tempted to rush things, but believe me, the only approach to take is a measured one. Mistakes can be costly, so take your time as you go through the process.

 

Look for information on SAR's and CCA requests and read info on the particular companies banks & credit cards, and debt collection agencies(DCA's) you are involved with.

 

By the way, we don't judge people here. Whatever reason you have found yourself in debt is not important. Don't beat yourself up, or take to wearing sashcloth and ashes, we don't require you to explain yourself! The past is over, nothing you can do to change it, so its time to focus on the here and now and how you can redress the balance with these Companies!

 

Do the reading and familiarise yourself with things, then whatever Q's you have by all means ask away! If you want an interesting read, go to my thread in legalities, its on the 1st page I think, its entitled, "Curious twist on two CCA requests-they are taking me to Court!" Its lengthy, but informative I hope and hopefully you'll glean some helpful advice!

 

All the best, stay in touch!

 

Laiste.:)

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Thanks Laiste :)

 

I've found the CCA request templates and have readied them for the off. I've already successfully claimed back from Alliance and Leicester for my account charges through the wonderful people at this forum and I'm delighted you're all here to help me now!

A+L - £950 settled in full.

 

Bank of Scotland - MCOL filed 9 Jan for £1500

 

Bank of Scotland (for parents) - £5000 settled in full October 06

 

Bank of Scotland (mum's account) £1900 settled in full November 06

 

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Okay, here's what I have done.

 

Made out CCA requests to the following companies:

Scotcall

Blair, Oliver and Scott

Westcot Credit Services

Buchanan, Clark and Wells

Credit Security.

 

They are all going recorded delivery tomorrow morning. As they have all been hounding me mercilessly,I have also sent a telephone harrassment letter to each one. I shall await their replies....

 

To clarify, after 12 days they are in default and after a further month they have to apply to a judge to enforce the agreement? Is that correct? What do I do after the 12 days or the month?

A+L - £950 settled in full.

 

Bank of Scotland - MCOL filed 9 Jan for £1500

 

Bank of Scotland (for parents) - £5000 settled in full October 06

 

Bank of Scotland (mum's account) £1900 settled in full November 06

 

Intelligent Finance: DPA non compliance sent 26 Jan

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Hi KHM,

 

Ok, the CCA requests you are sending are all to DCA's right? Have they all purchased the debts from the original creditors or are they acting as agents? You need to tailor the letters accordingly.

 

After the 12 working days do nothing. After the month they have committed a criminal offence. No company in my experience will initiate legal action in the absence of the credit agreement, as without it the debt is unenforceable. They will threaten action, but as you have probably already experienced, that's all they do! If they don't provide the agreement you can lawfully stop paying them if you wish. That's upto you, but personally I wouldn't pay anyone who hasn't proved that an agreement exists!:o

 

My a/c with LTSB has not been paid in over 12mnths, there have been threats from the beginning more or less. Various DCA's have been involved stating Court action was imminent, someone will call at your home, blah, blah, blah! It has all amounted to nothing. Amusingly, they have even been pursuing the matter despite having failed to comply with my CCA request sent last July! Which means BIG trouble soon for all of them! In fact, I have received a letter from their in house sols this morning over the a/c, threatening court action, they are complete morons! Particulary given that I have made a formal complaint to LTSB in December, over their non compliance and being pursued unlawfully when the matter was disputed! Its priceless, you couldn't make this stuff up!

 

Anyway, back to you. What you do after the month is a matter of choice. I favour doing nothing and letting them continue with threats and the like. The reason I say this is that if they continue to harass you after receiving the CCA and do not furnish the agreement, they are acting unlawfully and illegally, which provides you with more ammunition to use against them in any subsequent legal action.

 

You have to consider what your ultimate objective is and for most people here and in an ideal world, it would be to rid yourself of the debt. That is only going to be achieved in one of two ways, either the agreement cannot be produced for whatever reason, or there is something manifestly wrong with it, for example its illegible, or you have a defence and counter-claim as long as your arm which effectively wipes out their claim against you. You have to be prepared to let them make mistakes, which you can use to your advantage.

 

Do not make the mistake of some people whose threads I have read on here. They are so eager to get the agreement they send reminder letters, or contact them immediately after the month is up! That is just madness, they get so caught up in the process, they forget what this is really all about, which is hopefully getting rid of the debt if you can, or at least clearing a sizeable proportion of it. I would add before anyone pillories me for encouraging people to evade their responsibilities; I am advocating using the law to challenge the validity of the debt itself, which is entirely lawful and also claiming against creditors and their agents for harassment, bullying, unlawful processing of info under the DPA and any other practices that they engage in, which are unlawful and illegal and for which you can claim damages for.

 

To be honest I have not let these issues consume my life and neither should you. I have sent CCA and DPA requests where necessary and dealt with things as they have come up. Being patient and biding your time is a tactic I can highly recommend, it is working for me!:D

 

I hope this helps.

 

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Thanks Laiste, this is really helpful. I sent off the CCA requests this afternoon, so I'm just going to sit back and let them get on with it! If they produce the CCA then fair enough, I'm actually getting in touch with the original lenders to claim back the charges anyway so if they DO have the CCA, I'm planning on paying them off with the money I get back. Funny, every single debt I have is less than the amount that any one lender has charged me in penalty fees!

 

DCAs really seem to have no idea what they're doing or why... They're just chasing money left right and centre without any care for the legality. Getting phoned umpteen times a day is the worst, especially as I did have agreements in place with each and every one of them. If they can't provide the CCAs, I'll be stopping that quite quickly!

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Bank of Scotland - MCOL filed 9 Jan for £1500

 

Bank of Scotland (for parents) - £5000 settled in full October 06

 

Bank of Scotland (mum's account) £1900 settled in full November 06

 

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Hi KHM,

 

Let me know if and when any of them send copies of credit agreements, I won't hold my breath though!:D Just because they have sent a document, it does not mean it is legally valid for the purposes of the CCA 1974. If it does not conform to the specific requirements of the Act, the debt may still be unenforceable. We can discuss that, "if" they produce the agreements, as that area is quite complex.

 

I take your point that reclaiming charges will allow you to pay the debts. Personally, unless and until a Judge tells me that there is an enforceable debt, no Company will be getting any money. Of course its a matter of choice whether you pay them or not, but if you are going to the trouble of building a case against all of them, that you can claim damages for, paying them defeats the object!

 

If you are getting calls please ensure you are logging all the details of them. If you speak to any of them get the name of the person and position at the start of the conversation, because if things get heated, they will be reluctant to give it later. Write down as much of the exchange as you can remember, unless you already have recording equipment set up. If you don't then I would suggest buying something. Maplins apparently sell recording equipment for as little as £15.00. Great investment and a good leverage tool to use against them later on!:D It is not illegal for you to record calls, whatever any of the DCA's might say! I wouldn't tell them you are doing it, as you are trying to collate evidence, so you don't want them to be guarded in their comments. I would add its a good idea to get something soon because once you stop paying them, their threats and bully boy behaviour will increase and you want to catch them in the act.

 

All the DCA's are interested in is chasing money! The law to them is just an inconvenience and irritation. Expect appalling, unlawful and illegal behaviour from them, such tactics are how they they get people to pay them, its as simple as that!

 

Laiste.:)

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Howdy doody!

 

Got a letter back from Blair etc saying they "don't charge for copies of the agreement" and returning my pound. Unsurprisingly, no agreement was in the envelope!

Scotcall also returned my pound saying they were no longer dealing with my account and the new people would be in touch shortly. I bet they will!

No answer/acknowledgement from any of the rest. Ha.

A+L - £950 settled in full.

 

Bank of Scotland - MCOL filed 9 Jan for £1500

 

Bank of Scotland (for parents) - £5000 settled in full October 06

 

Bank of Scotland (mum's account) £1900 settled in full November 06

 

Intelligent Finance: DPA non compliance sent 26 Jan

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Another update: Well, letters were all delivered by the 29th Jan and NO CCAs have been forthcoming. Tomorrow marks the 14th day since they received requests.

A+L - £950 settled in full.

 

Bank of Scotland - MCOL filed 9 Jan for £1500

 

Bank of Scotland (for parents) - £5000 settled in full October 06

 

Bank of Scotland (mum's account) £1900 settled in full November 06

 

Intelligent Finance: DPA non compliance sent 26 Jan

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Another update: Well, letters were all delivered by the 29th Jan and NO CCAs have been forthcoming. Tomorrow marks the 14th day since they received requests.

 

Not trying to wee on your fire KHM, but remember it's 14 WORKING days :(

Just hate every DCA out there

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Just thought i'd drop in and say hi to KHMcBeY!!

I'm filing at Elgin Sherriff Court on Monday against RBS, wish me luck!!:|

Paying interest on a loan caused by penalty charges? Read this!!

 

Very useful A-Z here:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/site-questions-suggestions/53182-cant-find-what-youre.html?highlight=can%27t+find+what+you%27re+looking+for%3F

 

New strategy for Scots claims here:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/scotland/71013-urgent-attention-please-read.html

 

Scottish procedure:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/royal-bank-scotland/42620-scottish-procedure.html

I am a layperson not a legal expert, my advice is offered without prejudice or liability, it is purely my opinion based on personal experience and should be treated as such. If in any doubt seek the advice of a qualified professional.

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Time for an update - they received letters on 29th January and I still have not received the CCAs! Well outwith 14 days methinks.. I did however receive a nasty letter from Blair telling me I was behind with payments etc etc, so I sent this letter back:

 

Further to your recent communication:

On the 29th January 2007, your company received two letters from myself. The first was a request for a copy of the signed consumer credit agreement pertaining to the above account. The second was a letter telling you to stop calling my home and to remove my telephone number from your systems.

You have disregarded both letters.

I informed you that this account was in dispute and that I would not be making payments until I had received the aforementioned consumer credit agreement. Despite this and despite your inability to provide the agreement, I received a letter demanding payment, and there has also been an escalation in calls to my home regarding this matter. As I informed you in the original letter, I deem these telephone calls to be personally harassing, and the cause of great distress to my family. To add to this, one of your representatives informed my father that they worked for your company, which is contrary to the Data Protection Act as it gives out personal information concerning myself.

I will not be making any payments to this account until I have received a copy of the consumer credit agreement, as is my right under law. You have had ample time to provide this and have neglected to do so. By failing to provide me with this document, your company, as you are no doubt well aware, has committed an offence under Section 77 (4) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, summarily punishable by a Level 4 fine on the standard scale. Furthermore, a credit agreement that is not properly documented and signed by the customer is totally unenforceable under the Consumer Credit Act and is therefore a complete defence to any court claim that is issued. Please take note that any legal action you may contemplate will be vigorously defended and contested.

If you continue to make telephone calls to my home after I have repeatedly told you not to, I will report this to the police. I will also report your company to the Data Protection Commissioner for failing to adhere to my wishes concerning my personal data.

I trust that this clears up this matter.

Yours faithfully

 

 

I will admit to seeing red slightly...

A+L - £950 settled in full.

 

Bank of Scotland - MCOL filed 9 Jan for £1500

 

Bank of Scotland (for parents) - £5000 settled in full October 06

 

Bank of Scotland (mum's account) £1900 settled in full November 06

 

Intelligent Finance: DPA non compliance sent 26 Jan

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Great letter! :D

SM:p

Paying interest on a loan caused by penalty charges? Read this!!

 

Very useful A-Z here:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/site-questions-suggestions/53182-cant-find-what-youre.html?highlight=can%27t+find+what+you%27re+looking+for%3F

 

New strategy for Scots claims here:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/scotland/71013-urgent-attention-please-read.html

 

Scottish procedure:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/royal-bank-scotland/42620-scottish-procedure.html

I am a layperson not a legal expert, my advice is offered without prejudice or liability, it is purely my opinion based on personal experience and should be treated as such. If in any doubt seek the advice of a qualified professional.

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Hi KHMcBey,

I'm right at the beginning of this process against Blair, Oliver and Scott and so would be very interested in hearing what, if anything, has happened now? Judging on past performance I expect no response whatsoever to my requests for copy agreements but do expect the flood of letters from them to continue. Have they actually sent you anything or are they still just harassing you?

I have started my own thread on this, but being computer illiterate I have no idea how to post a link to it.

Thanks.

RMW

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Hi Everyone...I have just logged in this site and was amazed to find people in the same position as myself! I have various debts with credit card companies and the infamous Blair Oliver and Scott. Am I right in thinking that I can challenge each and every one of these companies to send me a CCA? If so, can I get a template of a CCA demand to send out?

Iam a homeowner and have already been sent a letter from B O & S that they have the power to sell my property to recover the amount outstanding because I have missed 1 payment! Iam frightened to death! Can anyone advise me of my next potential move?! Do I just keep on paying them?

Thanks a lot.....Emjaysee:(

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Hi Everyone...I have just logged in this site and was amazed to find people in the same position as myself! I have various debts with credit card companies and the infamous Blair Oliver and Scott. Am I right in thinking that I can challenge each and every one of these companies to send me a CCA? If so, can I get a template of a CCA demand to send out? Yes for Credit Card, Bank Loans, Catalogue and Hire Purchase type debt

Iam a homeowner and have already been sent a letter from B O & S that they have the power to sell my property to recover the amount outstanding because I have missed 1 payment! Iam frightened to death! Can anyone advise me of my next potential move?! Do I just keep on paying them?

Thanks a lot.....Emjaysee:(

 

These idiots DO NOT have the power to sell your house. First of all they would need to get a judgement against you in a Court, and then you would need to default on any payments the court ordered you to make before the Monkeys could go back to the Court and ASK for a charging order against your house.

 

If you read the BOS letter carefully you will see its full of IFs and MAYs

 

We may take you to court and if successful the Cout MAY do XYZ. They have a lot of legal jumps to go through before they are in a position to get a charging order against your house.

 

The important thing now is NEVER SPEAK TO THEM ON THE PHONE.

 

Send ALL your DCAs a CCA letter. Do not sign it. Send a postal order for £1 not a cheque.

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Pay them any payments they are due. Send the CCA letter to them. They have 12 working days to comply. Once they fail to comply you can legally stop paying them. You can get the CCA letter here template N

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/show-post/post-162367.html

 

You should start your own thread so your advice doesnt get mixed up with others

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Hi KHM,

 

Welcome to the forum, you will find a great deal of help here!:) We are a friendly lot that do our best to help. You do have to read around though, and its very important to read the FAQ's. We aim to empower each other to deal with their disputes confidently, but it is imperative that you read widely across the forum. It will take a few days to get to grips with some of the information here, but situations with debt don't occur overnight and you shouldn't expect that they will be resolved quickly, it will take time, unfortunately!:o We've all been tempted to rush things, but believe me, the only approach to take is a measured one. Mistakes can be costly, so take your time as you go through the process.

 

Look for information on S.A.R - (Subject Access Request)'s and CCA requests and read info on the particular companies banks & credit cards, and debt collection agencies(DCA's) you are involved with.

 

By the way, we don't judge people here. Whatever reason you have found yourself in debt is not important. Don't beat yourself up, or take to wearing sashcloth and ashes, we don't require you to explain yourself! The past is over, nothing you can do to change it, so its time to focus on the here and now and how you can redress the balance with these Companies!

 

Do the reading and familiarise yourself with things, then whatever Q's you have by all means ask away! If you want an interesting read, go to my thread in legalities, its on the 1st page I think, its entitled, "Curious twist on two CCA requests-they are taking me to Court!" Its lengthy, but informative I hope and hopefully you'll glean some helpful advice!

 

All the best, stay in touch!

 

Laiste.:)

 

Good supportive and encouraging post. Good Luck KHM.

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hi all i am also having trouble with this company blair scott oliver . they say they have sent me letters but i have not recieved none until friday7/03/08 . stating this is a final notice call now which i did was told they want the full amount of £577. which i told them oi cant coz im sickand not working they said do i relize theywill slam a charge on my house . if payment wast made in full within 7 days . tonight just got a phone call from some i could barely understand. asking me for my personal details . i said im sorry i dont give any of my personel details over the phone she said ok she cant disgust this with me and now they will seek legal action . i asked for my areement with them she said why didt i want this i told her just send me this argeement . so the call end we will now take leagal action over ur house.

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