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National Intensive Driving School - delays regarding tutoring - court claim won trouble enforcing judgement


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You will only be able to enforce against the address used in the claim.

How much is the judgment for?

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  • Nicky Boy changed the title to National Intensive Driving School/Bumper Finance - got Bumper loan to pay NIDS - delays regarding tutoring - now want to cancel
57 minutes ago, BankFodder said:

You will only be able to enforce against the address used in the claim.

How much is the judgment for?

No that's not true.

You can enforce against any address that they operate or have activities from.

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Source to confirm that jk?

When you request judgment.....

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At this stage, you can update the defendant’s address if it has changed since the issue of the
claim; however please note that the defendant’s name cannot be altered. If the defendant’s
name is incorrect or you are aware that the defendant’s address was incorrect when the claim
was issued do not continue requesting judgment – you will need to apply to amend and reserve
the claim.

Andy

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"If the CCJ is under 6 years old and the company is still trading, then we can enforce it using the most up to date address that you provide us with"

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Different enforcement address

If after an initial attendance, the debtor is found to have moved to a different address, enforcement can take place at that address, provided a new notice of enforcement (NoE) is sent to the debtor there.

If the creditor has reason to believe that the debtor may have moved, it may be worthwhile undertaking a trace before starting enforcement action, so that the NoE is sent to the correct address first time round.

https://www.thesheriffsoffice.com/articles/home-or-away-which-address-to-attend

 

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We took National Intensive Ltd to small claims court. Including costs they owe us around £700.

The address we put in the claim was the registered address on Companies House because we were struggling to find an address for them.

However yesterday we noticed another registered address now shows on their website.

Do we need to update the court?

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You have to give them a chance to pay before enforcing.

On 07/03/2024 at 11:22, DilysFiller said:

The Judge found in her favour and she has a judgement now of several hundred pounds.

You're very scant with the detail.

So this was not a default CCJ then.  Did they turn up in court and argue their side before the judge found in your favour?

We could do with some help from you.

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  • dx100uk changed the title to National Intensive Driving School - delays regarding tutoring - court claim won trouble enforcing judgement

what is the date of the judgement too? 

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moved to general legal forum

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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We took them to small claims court. They didn't turn up. The Judge asked lots of questions and then decided to find in our favour. In total this amounts to £700. This was just over a week ago. We've heard nothing since, no letter from the court or anything from the company themselves. 

We put the registered address we found on Companies House for them at the time of the claim. However there is an update address now showing on their website. 

 

I'm not trying to give can't details, but I'm not sure what else I can provide?

We just want to know what to do next, as we don't have much faith they will pay up as they didn't even bother to come to court etc.

 

 

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Wait for your Notice of Judgment takes longer than 1 week. Then you can look into updating the enforcement address if still unpaid.

We could do with some help from you.

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I've read through your thread from the start and there was advice to use chargeback and to be wary about suing a company whose address is a mail box.

Anyway, as Andy says wait for the Notice of Judgment from the court.

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