We have asked several times for the breakdown regards this, only to be ignored with this is the fee.

He did ask those questions and they are stoic that there fee is more then reasonable and have said that they will carry out the DOV. They said nearly £6000 is for the consideration and the rest is legal and admin, our solicitor went back and fid say it was outrageous fee. But they dont care and say its more then reasonable Im sure being here for 17 years without any issues we have ground. Am speaking to my lawyer today so lets see.

Hi Stu Will do but in the meantime they have said if we dont want to pay their fees for the DOV and given the eaves and crawl spaces arent on the lease plan we can either pay their fee £8000 or we can seal them. Basically they are playing dirty, the fact we have been using them for the past 17 years without issue and no where in our contract it says we cant use the space. What do you think we should do. Their is a part of me that wants to take them to court but not sure how it will hold up. Do you think speak to a litigation lawyer? thanks

Hi Stu Thank you for coming back to me. They are insistent that their costs are reasonable despite us mentioning that our solicitor can do it for £450 plus VAT. I googled him and seen the number of cases he has undertaken . We are at a loss and don’t know what to do. We have sent a final email and praying they agree to our solicitor carrying out the DOV. I sent a bunch of questions and they completely ignored it. Not sure what steps to take. What would you advise. We feel so helpless and stuck, because we cant afford their quote and will lose the sale. Thank you

Hi Thank you for all your advice have sent the SAR and our solicitor has gone back saying costs associated to DOV are unreasonable and to share the full breakdown. Southern Land Security has appointed Brendan Millward to carry out the DOV . Oppose to the person you mentioned Helen. We are awaiting the breakdown Thank you Sorry Brendan Milward

Great, thank you that. Really appreciate it will keep you posted on the update.

Hi Stu Thank you so much! This is excellent information I feel empowered as I was at a loss prior speaking to you From discussing this with you two things need to happen 1. Obtain SAR immediately containing the words All Data using the template you guided me to and modify accordingly. Can the request be sent electronically or does it have to be postal? 2. Query there cost of £8000 with breakdown highlighting our solicitor can do it for considerably a lot less and mention the two points you raised above Thank you so much YasminD

Thank you Stu, will do. Do you think I should still request SAR Thanks

Hi Stu Thank you for coming back to me. The crawl and eaves spaces are within our 2 bedrooms and bathroom and was there before we moved in we haven't touched anything Given we brought it 17 years ago the solicitor is no longer in operation The buyers solicitor said they would be happy if TP and Southern Land Security can assure this even with an email as they understand the cost quoted of £8000 is astronomical. But its TP and Southern Land Security are stating its required so they can charge the cost mentioned for the DOV. We have had a quote from our solicitor saying they could do it for us all in at £400.00 plus VAT but they refused and said they have to do it so they can charge this silly price I will ask for SAR and gently demand that they have to include it in the plans as its part of the rooms without the requirement of DOV otherwise we will lose the sale and are stuck and take legal action what do you think? Thank you for the link and all your help much appreciated Saima

Hi Stu Thank you so much for coming back to me We've owned the property for nearly 17 years as a leaseholder and TP are the management company and the freeholders are Southern Land Securities. We are in the process of selling our property and the first obstacle encountered was the Freeholder and TP couldn't provide proof of the loft conversion application that it was approved and said it was our responsibility to ensure this despite purchasing the property in situ, I then had to call the Local Authority to get all the relevant paper work to prove permission was sought and application approved. Which solved that matter. 2nd obstacle, the current plan does not demise the roof crawl spaces and the red lines do not go into eaves on the plan, they are saying from their standpoint the deed of variation is required, which they are charging nearly £8000. We don't think its necessary but the buyer is requesting it, despite having the certificate for the loft conversation from Local Authority and Documents from Land Registry to say all is above board and no issues. if we can't provide the Deed of Variation to include the eaves and crawl spaces as this is why its needed we can lose the sale because we can't afford the fee they have quoted which is astronomical My thinking is we have been living in the property without any prior need for the Deed of Variation and using those spaces without any issue its part of the property. My question is, why are TP and Freeholder are saying it is required Hope am making sense, this is my first time going through this. I can upload all the documents requested on Monday. How do you think we should respond and do you think we should requested SAR Also, Southern Land Security brought our property via an auction in 1996 and we moved in 2007 (some background) Thank you so much for your help and look forward to hearing back YasminD

Hi All, hope you well I came across your post published last year about Together Property formerly known as Hamilton Kings. We reside in Willesden Green and currently our property is undergoing completion but are experiencing major issues with the wild costs quoted by TP, pertaining to Deeds of variation which surpasses the legal market range. Please can anyone advise on the following should the deed of variation be part of the management pack about the property because we are told its a separate document ? Given the cost it’s hindering us selling our property. if we request SAR would that be helpful as they will need to provide everything about the property look forward to your advice Thank you Yasmin