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On 21/12/2023 at 02:19, dx100uk said:

there 1000's of threads here to read in the forum you started yours in and ofcourse our enhanced google seachbox.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I have been reading threads but I'm still a bit confused.

 

Some seem to say to wait for a questionnaire from the court while others are saying they are running out of time to submit their witness statement.

 

I just to want to miss any dates.

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You don't file a witness statement until after allocation (DQ) which informs you of the courts directions.

N149a proposed Allocation  with N180 , then N157 Notice of Allocation with directions /dates then you prepare file submit statement and exhibits.

 

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Thanks Andy

 

I'll do a bit more reading.

 

I have now received three more letters that I'll try and post up.

 

One was them saying they have received my defence and the other is from the solicitors with an attached questioner but it says the courts will be sending me their one.

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both std letters ignore them

they always send their DQn180 early to intimidate and harass. doesnt mean they've sent it to the court and i bet mcol claim history status says nowt about the court has sent them out... typical lowells/overdale bully boy tactics.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I've just received a letter from overdales saying they have enclosed their defence and a copy of the credit agreement.

From what I can see the credit agreement is a print out that only has one signature box filled in (theirs).

There also seems to be a print out of listed items and a letter saying the debt has been passed over to Lowell.

Is there a way I can post them up on here for you to see?

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eh? a claimant does not file a defence, they are not the DEFENDant.

read upload

dx

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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so its a CPR return.

so get scanning to JPG each page sent (we dont need statements) 

redact as jpg.

convert to PDF

merge to one mass pdf

all in upload as well as online sites to use .

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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eh? back here as pdf's..read UPLOAD.

you hit choose files at the bottom of these msg boxes

ONE MULTIPAGE PDF ONLY!

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Sorry I pressed the paperclip icon and it asked for a URL.

I can see the attached files link now 👍

I hope this works ok and you can still read it as I had trouble with the 4mb pdf file size limit and had to shrink it.

Document_Merged.pdf

The last two pages are the credit agreement that is only signed by them.

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could have been sent to anyone with your name now inserted. no indication that it came from NEXt, could have come out of lowells filing cabinet

i will guess this was an online signup?

also, you dont need to hide £figures.

dx

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I remember seeing somewhere saying not to post up figures.

To be honest I really don't remember ever having a next catalogue (but it is possible) but if I did then it would have been signed up online.

Those last two pages are the same sheet of paper Next was written on one of the sides.

I guess my argument would be that they don't have a signed agreement and that one of the documents says I would have only had a £300 limit.

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£300...well no the prescribed terms on the agreement and as their T&C's (missing) will outline how your credit limit is decided by you making regular payments and how you operate the account.

thats not a compliant agreement IMHO, as there no name in the consumer signup box, no IP address , time or anything.

quite typical of lowells if you go read a good few (10 per day) lowell claimform threads already here on CAG

dx

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yes I've been reading, it seems they go to long lengths.

I thought it a bit strange that not only was there no signature in the box, there was not even a filled in tick box at the end of an agreement.

It is as you say anyone could have filled it in.

I was thinking about something they could pick up on if we end up in court and that is they say payments stopped in 2019 (again it is possible).

That would suggest payments were made at some point and could be argued that if there was no agreement then why were payments being made.

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so what? :noidea:

theres not one claimform thread here whereby the judge ruled on moral grounds of look statements in your name...

lowell dream of meeting people that suffer the morality card guilt in court and before.

most people that blindly pay dca's on any debt justify themselves being cash cowed by saying 'well i had the money/goods, i must pay it back... '

strange that one eh?

why didnt the original creditor crush you in court themselves but chose to sell the debt for as little as 10p=£1 😉

all they do is fund family holidays for all the DCA staff , not a penny goes to the OC nor off the 'debt'

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I suppose while people keep paying out of fear they will just carry on.

 

Have you seen cases like mine get dropped before it goes to court or does it always go to court in the hope the defendant either doesn't show or crumbles under the pressure?

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if you go look in the successes forum off this one and read ....

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I have now received this letter along with the questioner so it looks like they are continuing 😔

I will use this thread to reply:

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/347310-legal-n180-directions-questionnaire-small-claims-track/#comment-5088148

Is it after this is submitted that I need to send a witness statement?

Also I've been reading the success threads but a lot of them are for credit card or PayPal claim.

Is the process the same as with catalogue cases?

 

2024-02-05 N149a to the claimant - this is now a defended claim..pdf

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now go read that n149a again CAREFULLY!!

what does mcol say - does it say YOU have been sent an N180?

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use our enhanced google search box

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Unfortunately I'm still unable to log into the mcol website 

Sorry I thought you said n180 and not n149a so I was going around in circles.

The main page of the questioner (I think that's the n149a) doesn't actually say much, only to fill the form in.

I'm sure when I looked this up (when I was going ahead of myself) I read something about going down the section 127 route as there isn't a signed credit agreement but I can't seem to find the thread now :(

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3 copies

yes to mediation (unless you filed our Statute Barred Defence OR this is a claim for a Private Parking Ticket)

1 wit you

Suitability for determination without a hearing? no (that the issues are so complex they need to be argued orally')

the rest is obv

1 to the court

1 to their sols (omit phone/sig/email) if no sols send to claimant

1 for your file

 

as you cant access MCOL do the above anyway it cant hurt.

you've already filed your defence so i will guess you are now prepping for your witness statement, thought could be 6months away or not at all if the claimant doesnt file their N180 in time.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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