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    • My autistic son brought a van from a private seller. ( there was 5 other cars on his drive and another van, plus loads of machanic tools in his hallway,  so he probably is a unofficial dealer).  He gave the van a once over, he checked for any warning lights that might be on, there was none. He checked underneath for any rust etc, it all looked fine. The body was rough, but you'd expect that for the age of the van.  He got his brothers machanic to give it a pre mot check, as the van was old so he expected it to have a few problems. The van is a deathtrap, the seller had blacked out all the warning lights that were on the dash,  and I mean all.  He had also painted some kind of black stuff on the underside, to hide all the damage there.   My son drove it for over 2 hours to get it home. The machanic said he's surprised my son is still alive, and an untrained eye would not of seen what the seller had done.  Iv asked the seller for a refund and for him to have the van back, but he is refusing. Is there anything we can do.   
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    • First of all it sounds as if your retailer is very decent and very responsible. This itself is unusual in these kinds of circumstances and I think we need to bear this in mind. The guarantee is not particularly relevant and in fact the dealer had a statutory duty to exercise a certain responsibility for your computer – probably for several years as their obligation under the consumer rights act. The dealer may not have known this and it simply acting out of a sense of moral responsibility and that is even more noteworthy. You've already suggested earlier that you didn't really want to cause problems for your retailer. I think that you will need the help of your retailer as well in order to get information and evidence. I suggest that you proceed against DPD – but before you do that – I suggest that you have a discussion with the retailer. Tell them that this is what you are going to be doing and you would like to have a copy of anything they have which relates to the special instructions which apparently your dealer has already informed you about in relation to where item should be left. Secondly, maybe you should tell your dealer about this site and also about this thread. I can imagine like many dealers who are frequently sending items by means of couriers, they have had things go missing. Tell them that we will be very happy to help them recover money for lost or damaged or stolen items – and that is regardless of whether or not they have purchased insurance. Apart from being very pleased to help your dealer recover items which have been lost by irresponsible parcel delivery companies, I think we need to encourage the complicity between you and them so they will be pleased to support you in your claim against DPD. It will be helpful if you can get a copy of the instructions that you have referred to above, and also if you can get some written evidence of your own instruction that your laptop should be left in a safe place. Have you done the reading on this sub- forum? You will need to do lots of reading of many of the similar stories on this sub- forum. They won't necessarily be against DPD but the principles will broadly be the same. Also read the pinned topics at the top of the sub- forum in order to understand many of the principles involved. Getting your money back but be quick – but your chances of success are better than 90% that you can bank on it taking anything up to a year. Have you got anything in writing from DPD either refusing you or telling you that they won't discuss with you?  
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
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1 Date of the infringement Give answer here 09/09/23

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 14/09/23
 

3 Date received 18/09/23
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? Y
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] N/A
 

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7 Who is the parking company? Euro car parks

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Kingsmead, Stafford
 

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So it's for an overstay but the NTK doesn't state how long the over stay was so how are you to know if it was 2 hours maximum and you overstayed by 36 minutes or if it was 2 hours 30 maximum and you overstayed by 6 minutes which would be covered in the minimum 10 minutes grace period - therefore I don't think the NTK is compliant.

Rule 1. Never, ever appeal. Wait to see if you get a properly worded Letter Before Action which will be some way down the road from now and after a complete forest of begging/threatening letters from these jokers.

Rule 2. Check back here if you have a wobble or get an LBA.

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Homer is spot on.

From reading on-line it's two hours maximum and there has already been outcry from local businesses about Euro Car Parks  https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/it-would-killed-trade-controversial-3457083

Given the fleecers have history for annoying locals and having to back down, it would be worth contacting the retail site, laying it on thick about being a genuine customer and both shopping and eating there, and ask that they call them off.

I can't find a damn e-mail address for them though.  The council have a page on the site, maybe contact the council and ask if they have a contact for the site?  https://www.ourbeautifulstaffordborough.co.uk/shopping/kingsmead-retail-park/  There are also shopkeepers mentioned in the article and also a councillor who might know.

 

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Yes Dave,

I've spent some time trying to find a contact for the retail park.

Why can't they just have a website like other retail parks?

I've also trawled the on-park retailers websites, but they all just quote a vague "free parking onsite".

As you say, the reviews and news articles are bad.

Looks like they used to use the "reverse trespass" model here...

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/it-would-killed-trade-controversial-3457083

Maybe contacting that local rag might glean some useful inf about the Retail Park owners?

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Plus they openly admit that they use the cameras to ''capture images of vehicles entering and leaving the car park to calculate the length of their stay''

However the ''contravention'' is ''Your vehicle was 'parked' longer than the maximum period allowed''

Their cameras aren't used to capture how long you've been parked, in reality. you could have spent 18 minutes finding a spot to park and then another 18 minutes loading your vehicle with shopping and trying to exit the car park.

Bit silly these rules they dream up.

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Been using Google spyview, but can't really get that close to any signs. I can just make it out, but can anyone else spot mention of a Parking Charge amount on this one?

(Can clint get any close up pics of the signage please?)

I understand that the Parking Charge amount should be in a bold font, which this certainly 'aint...

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The sign at the entrance is in white and on the wrong side of the road. It is  almost two lanes away from incoming cars, too much print on it to be picked up by incoming motorists and the print is too small. There is a quite large P at the top and below in smaller print are the words" camera controlled". Doubtful that most motorists would see it. The terms and conditions are on signs inside the car park so the sign is an offer to treat.

Inside the car park there are several different signs though most of them stipulate  maximum 2 stay .

The charge is £100 reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days.  Cameras are used .to register entry and  exit. And the terms of parking are included.There are large swathes of the car park that do not appear to have any signs at all

There is another sign that says the car park is for customer use only while others different signs occur where there are spaces for blue badge holders which I cannot read.

It would be worth a visit to show the signs especially a route showing how badly placed is the entrance sign then video through to show that it is possible to park there without being aware of the signs

 

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Video of drive into car park and still pictures of signage 

 

 

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The PCN also fails to comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4  Section 9[2][e]

(e)state that the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and invite the keeper—

(i)to pay the unpaid parking charges; 

So as they say further down their PCN that they cannot transfer the charge from the driver to the keeper if they do not comply, you as keeper are no longer liable to pay the PCN. Only the driver is liable which will be difficult as Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person.

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