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On 21/03/2023 at 15:19, dx100uk said:

Ah the old spelling police gag to try and put worth to your musing .

 

Funny how you've just joined today and went directly to a thread that's months old to post

 

Been quite a few mystery new members doing the same thing on other UAE threads here of recent .

 

Cags advice must be hitting idrww rather hard....

 

Dx

 

CAG's  good advice must be still working then...

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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not touting for business are we?

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Touting for business!!!!    Yeah……I listed every single litigation solicitor in the UK!   
 

how about you start telling people the TRUTH???      You could start with disclosing who you actually represent?

 

Also,  how about confirming that ANY UAE debt must also comply with the UK consumer credit act to be able to start CCJ action.   So if a creditor makes a mistake they only then cannot enforce a judgement,  but if they con people into ignoring letters they will have a new avenue through the door!    Come on fella!   Just be honest!      

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I’ll bite for you HB…..

 

so can you confirm that you advise people to IGNORE all letters from creditors???

 

you and I know that advise is completely wrong and only opens more avenues for a back door CCJ

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we are free

we dont get paid

and if you search a good few threads here..

we always tell people its against site rules to allow sols recommendations.

 

also we're all a bit puzzled as to how the UK Consumer credit Act applies to a UAE agreement.

1st we've ever heard that one since we came about in 2006.

 

it also crosses users minds here that you might now be having regrets about believing your sols and getting had blind, but can't just quite fire your arrows in the right direction.  bit like a certain ex president and a certain 'sollen' election....

 

there are no posts/threads here that have ever said specifically to totally ignore UAE debt chasers.

we'll you do till you ever get a letter of claim or statutory demand in the POST (though 9/10 they are fake) or a court stamped claimform.

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Wow!   You didn’t know that for a debt from UAE to be enforceable in the UK it must also comply with the UK credit act?     Don’t you think it’s time to get a real legal opinion before you give out your precious unpaid free time?   

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who is saying this?

this wonderful solicitor that appears to have scammed you?

 

you still have nottold us the full story with proof of court papers and witness statements that this really did happen to you?

 

how do you ever expect anyone to believe you or p'haps help you till you do?

 

it could all be a wind up upon your behalf as you are another of the patsy case that got a bigger backhander from the scammer to take a hit than what you really did have to pay.

 

we've seen 4 threads like this here in our years that turned out to be paid patsy's on UAE debts claim

 

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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If you're just here to insult everyone, that makes this thread rather pointless, Wakanda.

 

Earlier in the thread you offered to show people your paperwork that you say helped you against IDRW. People are very interested to see it.

 

HB

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I’ve already shared my experience HB.   It was simple!    My tip is 1st don’t bury your head in the sand and ignore this. Then google your rights according to the consumer credit act.   If you cannot establish a clause that was breached or cannot defend a claim on your own then go immediately to a local solicitor to put a stop to any threat to save you the sleepless nights of worry!   You will get instant quality advice from an expert!

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2 minutes ago, Wakanda said:

I’ve already shared my experience HB.   It was simple!

:pound::pound::pound:

 

opps nail hit on head....:wave:

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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@Wakanda You seem to be ignoring all relevant questions which will HELP people!

 

1. What was the debt?

2. How were you contacted?

3. What advice did the legal firm offer?

4. Who did you contact? How did you contact them? What did you send? What was their response..

Etc etc etc...

 

Just throwing insults at the site team here, what is that going to gain?!  *IF* you have real world experience of this. Share it. Share the proof. Help others..

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4. Who did you contact? How did you contact them? What did you send? What was their response..

Etc etc etc...

 

No adverts please we dont need their details.

 

 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Wow!  You seem to be very worried about someone posting any truth on this forum?   Why is that?   Would it be that you really are making money from this??   Just keep posting under more aliases?  

 

My tip is 1st don’t bury your head in the sand and ignore this. Then internet search your rights according to the consumer credit act.   If you cannot establish a clause that was breached or cannot defend a claim on your own then go immediately to a local solicitor to put a stop to any threat to save you the sleepless nights of worry!   You will get instant quality advice from an expert!

 

#bbcripoffbritain

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but but but ...sir.. UAE debts are not covered by the UK consumer credit act 1974, its not written or mention in the agreement you signed as it was signed under UAE law.

 

 

 

 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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DX you are wrong.   Flat out wrong!  For any debt to be enforceable in UK courts the rules of the UK become the rule of law.   That rule means that any enforcement in UK courts must comply with the same act as it would for a creditor within the UK.   Can I suggest you seek a real legal opinion!

 

what’s with all your insults?   Aren’t you supposed to be a kind Good Samaritan giving out free advise?

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so you won the case using this point then in court?

 

and even if they are, what difference does it make?

not all our consumer debt is covered by the consumer credit act, so how does that work in our court then, let alone a foreign debt that doesnt even mention the UK Consumer credit act 1974?

 

somethings not right here but i just cant put my finger on it...

did you win or lose...

 

court documents please.

 

almost time for you to leave work isnt it.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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How very weird?    “Not all our clients are covered by the consumer credit act”…….mmmm so you admit something!   Well,  “not all debts are credit agreements” you should have added!

For ANY case from dubai to be enforceable in the UK it must comply with the law of the UK.    It cannot be just some random claim with no evidence!   
 

seriously…..if YOU are giving out free unpaid Good Samaritan legal advise to people then you should do so with the responsibility of knowing the facts.

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