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    • Thank you. You contacted directly with the parcel broker so your best option is to proceed directly against them for breach of contract. I hope you have read enough to understand that you will not be able to rely on the Consumer Rights Act 2015. Do you understand why? Have Parcel to Go giving you a reason for declining reimbursement? Do you have anything in writing from your customer which shows that they did not refuse delivery and which identifies the actual circumstances of the situation?
    • Which Court have you received the claim from?  CIVIL NATIONAL BUSINESS CENTRE, NORTHAMPTON Name of the Claimant?  LOWELL PORTFOLIO LTD How many defendant's joint or self?  SELF Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  03 MAY 2024 Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?  THE CLAIM IS FOR THE SUM OF £6000 DUE TO THE DEFENDANT UNDER AN AGREEMENT REGULATED BY THE CONSUMER ACT 1974 FOR A LLOYDS BANKING GROUP PLC ACCOUNT WITH AN ACCOUNT REFERENCE OF (ACCOUNT NO. 16 DIGITS LONG). THE DEFENDANT FAILED TO MAINTAIN CONTRACTUAL PAYMENTS REQUIRED BY THE AGREEMENT AND A DEFAULT NOTICE WAS SERVED UNDER S.87(1) OF THE CONSUMER ACT 1974 WHICH HAS NOT BEEN COMPLIED WITH. THE DEBT WAS LEGALLY ASSIGNED TO THE CLAIMANT ON (DATE) NOVEEMBER 2016 NOTICE OF WHICH HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE DEFENDANT. THE CLAIM INCLUDES STATUORY INTEREST UNDER S.69 OF THE COUNTY COURTS ACT 1984 AT A RATE OF 8% PER ANNUM FOR THE DATE PF ASSIGNMENT TO THE DATE OF ISSUE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS IN THE SUMBE OF £0.00. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS THE SUM OF £6000. What is the total value of the claim? £6500 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? YES, NOTICES OF CLAIM.  Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred?  YES  Did you inform the claimant of your change of address?  NO Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account?  CREDIT CARD When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007?  BEFORE   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post?  I DONT RECALL   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ?  NO   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim.  DEBT PURCHASER.   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? THE FIRST I RECALL WAS A LETTER FROM LOWELL SAYING THEY NOW OWNED THE DEBT.  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor?  NOT THAT I RECALL OR BEEN PROVIDED WITH THROUGH CCA REQUESTS.AT LAST REQUEST THEY SAID THEY WERE AWAITING THE DEFAULT NOTICE AND NO ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN UNTIL RESPONDED WHICH TO DATE I'VE NOT HAD OR SEEN.  Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ?  NO, I RECEIEVED LETTERS OF CLAIMS   Why did you cease payments?  I WAS UNDER MEDICAL CARE WHICH CAUSED ME NOT TO WORK. AROUND THAT TIME LOWELL HAD WANTED ME TO INCREASE MY PAYMENTS AS IT WOULD TAKE TOO LONG TO CLEAR THE DEBT. I HAD BEEN PAYING THEM WHAT I WAS PAYING THE BANK. I EXPLAINED MY THEN HEALTH & FINANCIAL POSITION AND THAT I WAS UNABLE TO DO SO. THEY PUT A HOLD ON MY ACCOUNT FOR A FEW MONTHS SO I CANCELLED MY DIRECT DEBIT. I MADE A FULL AND FINAL OFFER WHICH WAS REJECTED. WHEN THEY WANTED PAYMENTS TO RESUME I EXPLAINED I WAS IN A WORSE FINANCIAL POSITION, STILL UNDERTAKING TREATMENT AND NOW UNEMPLOYED SO COULD NOT START PAYMENTS AS THEY WANTED. AFTER SENDING MY FINANCIAL SPREADSHEET THEY KEPT SENDING LETTERS ASKING WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO. I COULDN’T SEE A WAY FORWARD I FELT STREESSED AND UNDER PRESSURE SO WROTE THAT I WOULD NOT BE CORRESPONDING WITH THEM ANYMORE.    What was the date of your last payment? NOVEMBER / DECEMBER 2018   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? NO   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? I COMMUNICATED MY FINANCIAL PROBLEMS WITH THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY, WE MADE A MONTHLY PAYMENT AGREEMENT WHICH WAS KEPT FOR SEVERAL YEARS UNTIL DEBT WAS SOLD.  
    • Perhaps you would care to read this and reflect on your continuing comparison of Israel to Nazi Germany Jugg    ALEX BRUMMER: How grotesque of pro-Palestine protesters to besmirch Auschwitz, the place where my grandparents died WWW.DAILYMAIL.CO.UK As the son of a refugee from the horrors of the Holocaust, I can feel nothing but contempt for the ignorance, gross... My elderly aunt Sussie and cousin Sheindy had been teenagers at Auschwitz and Belsen but survived and are alive to this day. What they will make of the protesters who waved flags, heckled and chanted as Israelis took part in the March Of The Living – the annual walk from Auschwitz to Birkenau – I cannot imagine. The images now circulating of the protesters are indescribably disturbing. They can only bring back memories of those final moments Sheindy shared with my grandparents when my grandmother Fanya squeezed her hand and told her to lie about her age to avoid the gas chambers. Claiming she was older, and could work, meant that Sheindy lived, not died. The outrage perpetrated by Hamas on October 7 has brought back the most terrifying memories for these two women – memories of pillage, mutilation and starvation. The Holocaust, or Shoah to use the Hebrew word, was the deliberate, industrial-scale killing of Jews.  It is bad enough that pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas sympathisers have chosen to steal the language of the Holocaust.  Any comparison between Israel's retaliation and the monstrous genocide of the 1940s is odious and anti-Semitic
    • Thank you JK2054 and BankFodder for your replies. The information requested is as follows:   My wife and I are sole traders supplying bespoke, handmade wedding trays and other items through our website. We do not sell on ebay. We had an order for two trays (invoice value £370) that were shipped on Monday 25th March. We used P2G as the broker and Evri as the shipper. We declared the value but did not take out insurance. As the trays were a present for a wedding on Saturday 30th March we checked the progress of delivery on the Thursday to see that there had been an attempt to deliver on the 27th but the driver failed to deliver as the customer’s gate was shut (customer informs us that the gates are open between 7am-7pm. We contacted the customer who informed us she had been waiting in all week and there had been no attempt of a delivery. Evri allege they attempted to deliver on the 28th & 29th. On the P2G web site on the 4th April at 14.17 it stated that the customer refused delivery. At 14.28 it updated to say there was a problem with the address and at 14.32 updated to say the customer had refused delivery. At 14.35 updated again to say it was being returned. Last entry was on the 7th April that it was being processed at the depot. We never received it. I have had six web chats with P2G between the 4th-30th April. On the 26th April, I had an offer of £20 plus cost of delivery (£6.72) from P2G which I rejected. During this time, I also contacted Evri that resulted in an email from Evri Customer Services (20th April) stating that they had lost the parcel. I replied requesting details of the attempted delivery but received no reply. After emailing Evri again on the 23rd asking again for the information I received a phone call from someone called Haleemah on the 25th who apologised and promised to send an email with a link to submit a claim form. I subsequently received an email with the link which only took me to a page that stated “Page not found”. After informing Evri customer services of the problem (to which no reply was forthcoming) a couple of days later I retried the link but it only took me to the Evri website. I believe that I have a good case against both companies but would appreciate guidance on which path to go down. I have read most of the information on this site, which has been very helpful and much appreciated, particularly the various court transcripts. I appreciate that this process is a marathon and not a sprint and am fully aware that I need to get everything in the correct order before starting on the legal road. I am sure this covers the current position but if further info is needed please let me know.  
    • Everything at small claims revolves around informality and common sense, there are no "special" ways to have to do things. The site manager's WS will be like yours and the one I linked to - just much shorter.  There need to be the introductory hearings about the case, the parties, etc., and the concluding Statement of Truth. In the middle just a couple of paragraphs where they say who they are, how they know you, and about permission being given by the landowner to use the car park. Superb.  I've added another section about the signage to the suggested WS sections three posts above. Yes, it's perfectly possible.  It'd be a good idea to phone the court on the 18th to see if they have paid.
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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2.1 is bullet point details of your complaints.  Presumably discrimination. 

 

I really do think you should speak to someone that handles employment legal issues, otherwise you risk making  mistakes which may harm your case.

 

When you say breach of TUPE regulations, what regulation have they breached ?

 

Be careful not to use the word lie in the proceedings( either in documents or at the hearings).  Just present information and let those hearing you come to their own conclusions.

 

From what you have said in your thread, clearly there has been a breakdown of the relationship between some of the managers of the business and yourself.  They wanted a level of flexibility in working arrangements that could not be agreed.

 

Were the days/hours of working part of the original employment contract or part of an agreed change to your employment contract ?  Do you have a copy of the employment contract or anything in writing from a line manager confirming agreed days/hours would be officially noted in your employment contract ?

 

From what I have seen with employment contracts and days/hours of working, the contract states when the business is open for staff to work and how many hours per week the contract is for. But the contract usually states that exact days/hours of working will be agreed with local managers and may be subject to change to suit the needs of the business.

 

Employment law is really complicated and you need to pinpoint your case to state exactly what laws the employer has broken with evidence to support.   Which is why I recommend that you speak to someone legally qualified.  

 

Why only ask for £1?   Again which is why you need advice from someone that handles these cases on a regular basis. They will know exactly what should be entered on these forms.

 

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The Tupe main principle is that the terms and conditions  of employment cannot be worsened.

By putting a limit on how long I can take leave for makes it worse in my opinion. 

Besides,  they've gone against their own policy which doesn't say that any leave over 3 weeks is unpaid, but simply says that it needs to be authorised by an MD.

They can get the Pope to authorise leave, not a problem,  but when they say that the policy doesn't allow more than 3 weeks they're lying. 

Especially when they confirm that there's no business need to refuse the leave, but simply for their made up policy which as said is different from the official policy published by hr.

 

The flexible working agreement was signed over 5 years ago by the same manager who has now come back.

I lost that piece of paper unfortunately. 

However, it is reasonable to think that someone at some point must've agreed to my fixed shifts.

And also, when we were tuped, how did they know that I was on fixed shifts.

The previous company must've given them the agreement or at least a transfer sheet.

They don't even have my part time contract, so under the same principle I am contracted to do 36 hours/week.

Regarding the business need: they still need to cover my 2 shifts, but they want to give them to a new employee. 

How's that possible???

This guy has gone to the interview and told them he could only work my shifts and they agreed.

He's an unqualified teenager, I am a fully qualified professional with a master degree and 25 years experience in the industry.

The problem is that under my contract I get paid double compared to their new employees,  so they want me out.

They already got rid of 90% of the old staff to employ people on minimum wage. 

When I told the manager that I can't work late turns he simply said: "you need to resign then".

I asked him to put in writing his solution but of course he didn't. 

 

I asked for a symbolic £1 because their solicitor implied that I was taking them to court just to make some money and this is totally incorrect. 

I pointed out in my response that this was not the case.

I do not want any money, I just want my rights to be respected.

 

I submitted one more proposal of settlement to ACAS, the fourth one, asking only for the flexible working agreement to be respected and terms and conditions to remain as they are.

I offered to forget everything else related to their bullying which has been affecting my mental health and start afresh.

They refused.

 

Think about it: I'm only asking for them to respect the law,  nothing else. 

 

Unfortunately I don't know anyone legally trained and this year has been a very tough one financially for various unplanned things, so I can't afford a solicitor. 

 

I hope this is clearer now and welcome any comment and help with the agenda.

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TUPE as far as I understand it, just covers basic employment contract rights. So would not cover the new employers changing flexible working or how many weeks holiday an employee can take at anyone time.

 

If you cannot afford a Solicitors, you might want to ask ACAS questions to clarify points of law on the main issues you are raising. Or some Solicitors offer free half hour consultation, where you can ask questions.

 

What are you going to do, if the employers submit evidence of your unreasonable behaviours and advise that whatever the outcome, they no longer want you as an employee ? 

 

You need to question your strategy here as your relationship with employers is now broken down, so asking for £1 may not be best option. What would be fair settlement, if you managed to prove your case.

 

 

 

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@unclebulgaria67 Thanks.

I've been trying to get through to acas, but it's bank holiday weekend,  so nothing until Tuesday which is when I need to submit the agenda. 

The local CAB was fully booked this week, so I'm going to check if I can see anyone next week,  although,  a couple of years ago I saw them regarding a tv delivered broken and they told me that I had to accept to send it in for repair.

So I don't know how much knowledge they would have on employment law.

They've been trying to push me out (along with everyone else on old contracts), but I don't think they'll dismiss me, at risk of being taken to tribunal again.

I have an immaculate record at work and top performance score, so if they want to dismiss me they'll have to justify it by saying that I didn't like being bullied.

I'm aware that it can happen but I'm not prepared to become their doormat.

Some colleagues did that and ended up leaving because they weren't getting paid.

This company tests the employees: when they see a weak prey they start making "mistakes" in their payslip and never pay back.

A colleague left because she was owed approximately £2k but was scared about taking them to court.

They tried that with me and within 5 days I'd made such a stink about it that they paid me in cash.

Since then, they never made a mistake again on my payslip. 

I don't understand how they could make honest mistakes with salaried staff: the pay should be the same every month, one would think.

 

To be honest I don't want any money from them, it would feel like I'm asking for stolen money considering how many of my colleagues have been shortchanged. 

Sorry, might be mad, but that's how I feel, I don't want their money.

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Hi, here it is.

Thanks

 

Could you please look at this agenda and let me know where I've gone wrong and/or what you would add/subtract/amend?

Also, what's on point 2.1?

What do I put at 3.3 considering I'm only asking for a symbolic £1?

What about 4.2?

8.1 and 9.1???

And would you put anything at the end in the "any other matter" box?

 

Sorry for the many questions,  I truly appreciate your help!

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2.1 will be the complaints you listed when you challenged the employers using any internal grievance process.

 

3.3  N/A as £1 symbolic payment requested only. Claim is to ensure employers comply with my employments rights as noted above.

 

4.2 ???  Are you aware of any issues that need to be resolved, before a Tribunal considers the case being made ?

 

8.1  How long do you think is needed to consider all of the issues you want to raise ?  I think it is a max of 3 hours ?

 

9.1   This is about any pre-tribunal activities that are ongoing before the case is heard.  For example, you might be in the process of obtaining more information from the employers and they have said they will provide it by x date.

 

As I have said before,  you really should get some professional advice before you attend the tribunal.  At the moment, I fear that you are not very well prepared, as you don't have your case stated in a clear way, stating the specific employment law rights that the employers have broken.

 

 

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Thanks for that.

My husband is going to call ACAS tomorrow as well as his union legal advice line.

Hopefully we'll get some help because my union has not answered any question. 

Apart from the points of law, can you suggest anything that he should ask advice about?

 

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Ask about TUPE.

 

Would it cover hours of work or longer annual leave arrangements that had been agreed with previous company ? This was to help primary carer of children manage caring responsibilities with work.

 

The questions will relate to whatever the complaints were, when grievances were raised with employers. The tribunal is a continuation of your complaints you raised with employers.

 

You need to ensure you are specific in your complaint. Law and evidence of how employers have not complied.

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Hi everyone,  little update.

We had the preliminary hearing and it went ok i think.

The judge accepted the sex discrimination case and bullying (failure in duty of care).

He's going to come back to me on the TUPE breach because he said that it might be not their jurisdiction if it's a breach of contract.

Anyhow,  my husband contacted my union regional organiser and gave him a piece of his mind for having abandoned me in this ordeal.

Immediately after he sent me an email saying that they want to mend their mistakes and most likely they can offer legal cover.

We have a meeting tomorrow to discuss. 

On a different subject, the data protection case in county court has not been defended yet and tomorrow I'll be able to ask for judgement in default accordingly to mcol.

I keep you updated. 

Thank you everyone. 

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Good morning everyone,  update on the data protection case: they didn't respond and i applied for a ccj online, all confirmed by email and website. 

So they're determined not to disclose anything. 

So, after i receive the court letter, how long before I sue them again for failure to disclose?

My request is almost 7 months old and despite my many requests for update they sent nothing. 

All i get when i email them is the same copy and paste email saying that they are looking for the documents. 

 

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Well done.

 

You could start the whole process again immediately, as their breach is continuing.

 

However, best to await confirmation from the court of judgement in your favour.

 

Once you get that come back here, and we can think about enforcement and also about Round 2, as the wording of your PoCs will have to be slightly different the next time round.

 

 

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Let us know later on today, as it's important to keep the pressure on.

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Well, the next steps are -

 

1.  Enforce judgement.  You can do that on MCOL.  It'll cost you, but you'll end up getting the money back when the bailiffs enforce.

 

2.   Send them a new LoC in preparation for suing them a second time.  It can be exactly the same as the last one except for the last paragraph which should be -

 

Therefore I am giving you a final 14 days in which to satisfy my subject access request and if you do not do so I shall be beginning a County Court claim against you for £200 for distress for the period from 20 March to 7 May.

 

The reason for the tweaking is that in the Virgin case Virgin eventually defended, saying that had been sued for the same thing twice, so it's important to differentiate the claims.

 

I'm assuming your last LoC was sent on 19 March and this new one will go off on 8 May, but change if I've got that wrong.

 

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Here it is.


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County Court Judgment (CCJ) requested
We'll process your request and post a copy of the judgement to you and to the defendant 

we aim to process this as soon as possible.


Please do not call the Court and Tribunal Service Centre (CTSC) about the progress of your request.
Your online account will not be updated with the progress of this claim and any further updates will be by post.


the defendant can no longer respond online can no longer to your claim.

 

If a postal response is received before the judgment is issued your request will be rejected.


Find out about actions you can take after a CCJ is issued (opens in new tab),.
 

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That message to me appears to indicate the claim was perhaps issued out of the County Court Money Claims Centre, which while still based online is slightly different and more up to date than MCOL which issues claims out of the County Court Business Centre.

Perhaps you could clarify exactly how you issued your claim for the failure to disclose data. I don't think we've seen a claim form or any other correspondence.

In any case processing times can be found here. According to the processing times, entering judgment online should be automatic.

Using MCOL you should be able to move to enforcement immediately once a judgment in default has been entered.
 

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It's strange that you can't enforce judgement.

 

In any case, no reason not to send them the second LoC.

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