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    • god they've got at you haven't they. told you all the usual utter BS. a CCJ vanishes from your credit file on it's 6th B'Day regardless to being paid off or not or paying or not. same with any debt with a registered defaulted date - it vanishes from your file on the DN's 6th B'day regardless. creditfix are Knightsbridge, (they renamed) there are 100's of threads here on Knightsbridge, if i remember rightly 2 of the directors of a certain very big IVA provider were struck off for embezzling £1m's out of debtors. pers i'd stop paying now.  end of . just ignore them all. 99% of your debts are to utterly powerless DCA's and probably were never owed in the first place only goes to firm up my belief from post one..you got had blind. its very easy to deal with the debts even those with CCJ's. can you copy and paste what you credit file says regarding the IVA please?   
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    • Sorry I meant credit fix - I really wish I'd known this before - kicking myself right now  If they come back to me asking for more money I'll cancel it and start trying to deal with the debt myself let's see what they say  Feeling tempted to cancel it now but scared that some of the debts will do more CCJ's on me and I'll have to wait 6 years again.  2 of the CCJ come of this year and then I'll only have the iva in credit file - effectively if I'd have not took out the iva in 2021 I'd have clear score by now - but then again would I because I would have been hounded the last 3 years, as bad as it is it's saves me lots of headaches whilst my debt was still within the 6 year mark.  I think most of them are near there but in all honesty no point chasing them if I do cancel iva I'd jjst wait for the ones who contact me and then start the relevant letter process on them.  Of over 6 years easy if not still possible to write off. My true victory would be having the iva wiped off my credit file as mis sold or something that way I Don't have to wait till 2027 Other option is to fight back and ask for them to offer the creditors to accept payments so far and use the following method    Will your IVA firm agree to complete your IVA on the basic of funds paid to date? The Guidance lists a lot of factors to be considered in deciding whether a settlement on the basis of funds paid to date should be proposed. You should read the list. But that may not give you any feel for whether they apply to you or not. The following are my thoughts on when an IVA should be treated as settled, not failed. They assume that you have £75 or less to pay a month: if you would currently qualify for a Debt Relief Order, then your IVA should be settled now  There is no point in making your IVA fail and you have to apply for a DRO – it will not generate another penny for your creditors. If you are renting and owe less than £50,000, check the DRO criteria now and talk to National Debtline on 0808 808 4000 about whether you qualify. You may have been told at the start of your IVA that you aren’t eligible – still check now as the DRO criteria have changed, your situation has got worse, and some people were given incorrect information about DROs at the start. if you have no assets that would be realised in bankruptcy (eg a house with equity, car worth over £2000), then your IVA should be settled now Same as (1), there is no point in making you apply for bankruptcy after your IVA fails. if your only asset is a car that is worth less than £8000, then your IVA should be settled now A car that is worth say £5000 would normally be sold in bankruptcy and you would be given a small amount to buy a cheaper car. But your creditors would not get any benefit from this as the Insolvency Service takes the first £8000 raised to cover its own costs. if you have significant assets, the closer you are to the end of the IVA, the less reasonable it is to fail it If you have been paying your IVA for 4 years, you have done your best over a long period. It isn’t your fault you can no longer continue. The fact you may have had equity to release isn’t relevant as that simply isn’t going to be possible. if your situation will clearly improve soon, then it’s unlikely your IVA will be settled I mean real improvements, not hoping that prices fall. If I can get them to accept payment to date or threaten with cancellation hopefully they may accept it -  Other option is to try and borrow money and pay make a full and final offer  Or I can just ignore and hope for the best which I'm very tempted to do especially if they respond to my review with bullying tactics despite me being skint as a fart with no mortgage as renting  It's so stressful but I've just checked the iva agreement from 2021 and it's Cabot 2 accounts Lowell about 5 accounts and then lots of repeats of the same debt with for example zopa and Cabot same amount listed twice -  also loyyds banks but I'm sure that's older than 6 years and not on credit file anyway  If I can somehow remove the iva from my credit file I'd be happy 
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UKCPS CCTV PCN - no stopping - Gateway House, Piccadilly, Manchester


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Appealing is a bad idea, UKCPS never, ever accept appeals - ever.

 

Can you tell us, briefly, what went on and how you got this ticket?

 

 

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Incident happened on 16th June.

 

Driving to pre-booked parking but road closures on Ducie street and needed to turn around as couldn't go in the direction requested by sat nav.

 

Turned into 1st road on left which was Gateway house, didn't realise it was private land and didn't see notices.

Couldn't U-turn as car behind and barrier ahead - pulled over for safety to let cars enter what was a car park.

Noticed people entering station.

 

Re-programmed my sat nav to find the correct car park at Piccadilly Place, allowed my passengers to get out as didn't know how far I was from my car park - this was not the original intention to drop passengers off but it seemed sensible since we were in the right area and my parents are elderly.

 

I didn't leave the car, u-turned and exited to find my car park which was less than 1 minute away on foot. Wasn't in the private ground for anymore than 4/5 mins max. Their cameras show 4 pictures timed at 10:09:09 to 10:10:31.

 

I appealed the initial PCN explaining road closures, genuine error and sent copies of my pre-booked parking, train tickets etc and of passengers disembarking.

 

Received response today rejecting but offering discounted price £60 for 14 days but if I opted to appeal to  independent appeal service and they rejected the fine would be £100.

 

One of the pictures does show signage but it was 20 feet at least from the car and I didn't notice it at the time nor could I have read all the details in the time I spent there as I was more focussed on re-setting the sat nav

 

I know now I shouldn't have appealed the original notice and that I gave them too much detail but I genuinely thought honest was the best policy. 

 

Is it worth appealing to the IAS or should I just pay up

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Don't worry, this place is well known to us.  I've just checked and we have 13 other motorists in the same position.  None of them have paid a penny.  None of them have been taken to court.

 

Don't appeal to the IAS - they are crooks.  The IPC parking association, the IAS and the firm of solicitors most involved with these cases - are all run by the same people.  No conflict of interest there!  The IAS never, ever accept appeals - ever.

 

In fact it's a shame you appealed to UKCPS as you'll have outed yourself as the driver and lost your POFA protection.

 

BTW, what you have received is not a fine, it's an invoice from a private company, UKCPS don't have the power to issue fines.

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  • FTMDave changed the title to UKCPS MNPR PCN - no stopping - Gateway House, Piccadilly, Manchester

Please fill in the forum sticky

 

Then over the weekend use the time you would have spent on appealing to the IAS to read some threads by motorists in the same position as you at Gateway House.  You'll get a good idea of what will happen  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/search/?q=Gateway House&quick=1&type=forums_topic&nodes=65&search_in=titles

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I've tried to upload all the details in one PDF but it keeps rejecting and says 

parking.pdf

 

I think I've managed to upload now and I will research over the weekend as per your suggestion

 

1 Date of the infringement 16/06/212

 

Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 18/06/213

 

Date received 19/06/214

 

Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] Y but not schedule 4 instead it states Made under the Protection of Freedom Act 20125

 

Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes 

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] Yes

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] Yes

 

7 Who is the parking company? UKCPS

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Gateway House Piccadilly, Manchester

 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. UKCPS and IAS

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Thanks for uploading everything so quickly.

 

You did what any reasonable person would do - explained the extraordinary circumstances and expected UKCPS to cancel.  Unfortunately UKCPS are one of the most dishonest and most money-grabbing of the PPCs and were never going to accept your appeal.  You also told them you were the driver, previously they didn't know who was driving the car and had written to you as the keeper.  Just learn for the future not to appeal if you ever get another of these invoices.

 

However, never fear, there are about a million other reasons why their claim would be chucked out if they did try court, as you'll see from the other threads.  In fact that's why they haven't dared take any of the other 13 motorists to court, because they know they have no right to claim this money and they would get a hammering in court.

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  • dx100uk changed the title to UKCPS CCTV PCN - no stopping - Gateway House, Piccadilly, Manchester

Thanks for that Dave-I didn't see that.

I have looked at the PCN and it does not comply with  PoFA 9 ] [2] [  a]    and 9] [f]

On 9] the creditor MUST  state 

in 2] 

[a] it is the period of parking since it was not parked and a period of parking must have a start time and a finish time . They have only quoted one time so they have not complied with PoFA -mainly becuse your car was not parked.

and 2] 

[f] they have missed a vital piece off  viz. "(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)"

I know it sounds like nit picking but in Law when it states " must" then those words have to be included. 

And no doubt that as time progresses we will find that they have not complied with all the applicable conditions.

Already there are two on the NTK and it would surprise me if they have planning permission.

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As long as its not a letter of claim with a reply pack..correct..always ignore

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi Folks,

I received the attached demand from Debt Recovery,

I suspect around 20/8/21 but due to death in family I didn't do anything with it as more pressing matters.

I'm not sure if this is the letter I respond to with a snotty letter or if I just ignore.

Your advice as usual will be greatly appreciated

- head is all over the place at the moment so sorry if you've told me the answer before.

 

2021-08-18 DR+ chasing.pdf

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Don't worry, debt collecting agencies have no power to do anything because it's not their debt.

 

Standard hot air from paper tigers.

 

Relax & ignore.

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even if it is the dca's debt...still doesn't give them any legal powers

they are not bailiffs on ANY debt no matter what it's type

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi Guys,

I've now received a further 4 letters from DRP since my last post in sept but ignored all. However, I'm not sure if I was right to ignore.

 

I have attached the latest letter and the first after my last post. The latest letter was received on 5th Nov. Can you advise how I should respond to this what appears to be final letter before taking me to court. I could do without any hassle as I'm not in the right mind set at the moment

 

Many thanks in advance for your help.

 

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Just for clarity - Page 1&2 is the last letter received, page 3 & 4  were sent 15/9 and received 20/9 and was immediately following the letter uploaded previously.

 

All of  the  letters are similar but with subtle changes. I can upload these if you think it may be relevant. The changes mainly appear on the Pay now page and involve an increase to the number of payment deadlines that have passed and a change on the 2nd page on case monitoring activity e.g eligible to legal activity in the earlier letters to now stating Terminal contact.

 

The frequency of the letters also appears to have moved from monthly to fortnightly.

terminal contact 6Nov 21.pdf

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