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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.   House or Flat? Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. Lenders have a legal obligation to sell the property for the best price they can get. If they feel the offer is low they won't sell it, because it's likely the borrower will say the same. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Again, points as above. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) Why serve a delapidations notice? If it's in the terms of the lease to maintain the property to a good standard, then serve an S146 notice instead as it's a clear breach of the lease. I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. Enfranchisement isn't something that can be "voided", it's in the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 that leaseholders have the right to buy the freehold of the property. It's normal, whether it is a "normal" leaseholder or a repossession with a leasehold house, to claim this right of enfranchisement and sell the property with said rights attached and the purchase price of the freehold included in the final completion price. That's likely what the mortgage provider wished to do. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at? Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. So this is dealt with then. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.  You wouldn't vary a lease through a lease extension. You'd need a Deed of Variation for that. This may be done at the same time but the lease has already been extended once and that's all they have a right to. The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved. The lease has already been extended once so they have no right to another extension. It seems pretty easy to just get the lawyer to say no and stick by those terms as the law is on your side there. Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. Again, order them to revert it as they didn't have permission to do the works, or else serve an S146 notice for breach of the lease. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
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Rishi is needed by the WEF for the  introduction of the CBDC  programmable BritCoin that they want to replace cash with, the greased piglet is a sideshow. that's the Tinfoil Hat view, the reality is they are all a bunch of corrupt ne'er do well's who should be in jail not running a country.

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Sunak was an arch Brexiter exactly to enable the tax havens and tax avoidance he continued to use and ensure a lack of regulation in that and other money making for the rich endeavors, and which the EU was clamping down on, including P&O running tax haven freeports and enabling fracking in the UK - britcoin would have been a part of the freeport tax haven dodgy money and goods protection expansion.

Even the telegraph reporting that... (see bottom)

 

"Rishi Sunak has broken with Cabinet colleagues after saying the Dubai-based owner of P&O Ferries should not be blocked from involvement in the UK’s freeports.

The Chancellor said P&O’s behaviour was “appalling” but that the involvement of its parent, DP World, in the Thames and Solent freeports was a separate matter."

 

"DP World is investing £300m in an expansion of the London Gateway, which would be part of the Thames freeport, and is the owner of the Port of Southampton’s deep water terminal, making it a major player in the Solent freeport."

 

 

On the fines

It seems reported the fines are for the surprise birthday party , which according to Johnson 'the corrupt liars' repeated statements didn't break any rules

- so claiming his birthday party didnt break rules ...

 

and What about all the other events, around 6 of which Johnson is alleged to have attended that the met appears to be delaying, obfuscating and denying over for Johnson and his cronies?

 

 

 

 

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Ferry company's behaviour “appalling” but separate matter to Thames and Solent schemes, says Chancellor

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt Johnsons  birthday party the one where sunak said he went in on business, then left straight away?

- If so, why the fine?
 

Sunak is a fracking and shale gas in the UK supporter too

- probably why he wanted to keep the green card so he could leave the poisoned landscape once he made money for the poisoners

 

Truss been fined yet? or did no-one invite her to any of the jollies?

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There are rumours onlinr that Sunak might resign.

 

Meanwhile a health worker called Matthew Tovey has started a petition calling on Johnson and Sunak to go. It's currently heading for 69,000 signatures.

 

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Boris Johnson, Prime Minister of the UK, and Rishi Sunak, the Chancellor, were today issued fines for breaking lockdown regulations. Boris Johnson...

 

 

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Makes me laugh that its supposedly its the first time hes broken the law in office ..

... Just the first time the Met has been forced into confirming it

 

- and Johnsons still claiming that food, drinks, cake, songs but he didnt break the rules.

 

and apparently sunak had an orange juice and sang happy birthday before he 'immediately left

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41 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

There are rumours onlinr that Sunak might resign.

 

Meanwhile a health worker called Matthew Tovey has started a petition calling on Johnson and Sunak to go. It's currently heading for 69,000 signatures.

 

WWW.CHANGE.ORG

Boris Johnson, Prime Minister of the UK, and Rishi Sunak, the Chancellor, were today issued fines for breaking lockdown regulations. Boris Johnson...

 

 

 

If that starts to build, and sunak resigns rather than sharing Johnsons heat ....

That could hurt the little toad, and Truss would be ecstatic

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anyway,

What about the party in Johnsons no10 flat allegedly with 'lulu heavy wallpaper' among a number of others in attendance at the business meeting with cake, songs, games and wine?

 

.. Or will he continue to claim 'i entirely unaware just working and people leapt on me with songs, cake and alcohol for an hour or 10 before I managed to fight them off.

 

Of course, lulu was there to put the 3 ton of wallpaper back up which kept falling down, and that was a bottle of wallpaper paste and a brush in her hands not the bollli and cake it might seem at an oiks inexperienced glance

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with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

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perhaps they were business meetings that just happened to have party games, cake, booze and songs,

with work colleagues, family, doners,  and your decorator among others ...

 

.. all above board and nothing to be ashamed of or deny happened ... oops

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A Tory MP was “factually incorrect” to compare Boris Johnson’s attendance at a birthday bash in Downing Street to nurses having a drink at the end of their shift, the Royal College of Nursing (RCN) has said.

 

 

Lichfield MP Michael Fabricant had earlier told BBC News:

I don’t think at any time he thought he was breaking the law... he thought just like many teachers and nurses who after a very long shift would go back to the staff room and have a quiet drink.

Writing to him, Pat Cullen, general secretary of the RCN, said:

We remain at the forefront of pandemic response. Despite political narrative, as health and care professionals we know the Covid-19 context is nowhere near over. While you position yourself with some authority as to the behaviour and actions of nurses during the pandemic, I’d like to inform you of the following facts.

Throughout the pandemic - and still certainly, now - most days, nurses and nursing support workers, when finally finishing a number of unpaid hours well past shift end, will get home, clean their uniforms, shower and collapse into bed.

Throughout the early pandemic, this was often alone, for the protection of others - kept away from family, friends and support networks. These shifts - in communities, in hospitals, anywhere people are - are long, unrelenting, understaffed and intense.

 

At the end of one of the many hours, days and years we have worked, since recognition of the pandemic, I can assure you that none of us have sought to hang out and ‘have a quiet one in the staff room.’ There isn’t a site in England that would allow alcohol on the premises for any professional to consume during working hours.

 

As frontline professionals, still dealing with the implications of the pandemic - understaffed, underpaid, overworked, exhausted, burnt out and still holding it together while doing the best we can for our patients. It is utterly demoralising - and factually incorrect - to hear you suggest that our diligent, safety critical profession can reasonably be compared to any elected official breaking the law, at any time.

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Not only "they don't get it",  they don't care !

 

Arrogance of power, thinking they are the natural party of Government.

 

Opposition parties need to work harder to win over voters around the UK that they have the ideas to help improve quality of life for the majority.

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The Tories feel with that 80 seat majority they are untouchable, and they will have more things in place like the Online Harms Bill that could even affect what we are saying about them on this Forum,. Might be worth checking what it and OFCOM as a watchdog will do to the way advice Forums operate.  It might have no impact, but then again with bad drafting and catch alls in the sections it might. It will affect FB and Twitter, not sure  whether advice  on a Forum can be classed as Publishing in the way the Bill captures Social media.

 

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and probably think loosing thousands of local council seats is a mixed blessing as they can then blame 'not populist' councilors for any issues

 

 

So when we getting the bring your own bottle with cakes, hats and games 'business meeting' results?

and the 'demonics been exorcised' 'business meeting' in the Johnson flat with loud music, drinks, games, party hats etc?

 

and will Johnson try to avoid being named? (1000-1 on that)

 

 

and yes, there is a war on

- A war on peoples lives, democracy, honesty, accountability and common decency, with Putin, Johnson and Trump seeming to be the 3 main enemies to be defeated.

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Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

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I don't often write to my MP but I'm seriously considering it now. There's a possibility, although it may be faint, that if enough Tory MPs receive enough angry letters that they will put pressure on Johnson and Sunak to resign. At the very least, they should know how people feel.

 

My Tory MP is a staunch supporter of the government but as he's from the 2019 intake, I think it's worth a try.

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dream on HB - theres no general election due

Worth doing though.

 

 

On a side note of cost of living and profiteering that is happening under Johnson and Sunak

 

7% inflation to put the context of 2.1% pay increases

 

Fuel prices

Bulk fuel prices have come down about 15p a liter ... + 5p fuel duty reduction, plus 1p off vat = 21p reduction

Has anyone seen more than a 3 or 4p reduction in their fuel costs?

 

Food prices - up 15-20%

 

Exports - sitting in queues at dover rotting

UK Crops - rotting

 

while the middle eastern owned P&O who also broke UK law in sacking UK workers are allowed to not only continue, but be a major part of the UKs tax fiddle freeports

 

Corruption (physical, legal and moral) and usury - the epitome, the very definition of a Johnson UK.

 

 

 

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As you say, I won't know unless I try. MPs said during one of the last crises that their inboxes were full of angry emails and it did seem to get through that time.

 

ETA: There's also the issue that there could be other fines. What do they do for the next one and the one after that?

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Sunak is desperate to stay on, he wants to be the Chancellor who ends Cash, and brings in the BritCoin CBDC a programmable Digital Currency, centrally controlled that allows them to decide what you can buy with it unlike other Crypto like Bitcoin and Etherium.

 

Either way he should go along with his greased piglet Johnson who seems still to slippery to catch.

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As you say, I won't know unless I try. MPs said during one of the last crises that their inboxes were full of angry emails and it did seem to get through that time.

 

ETA: There's also the issue that there could be other fines. What do they do for the next one and the one after that?

 

Same as this one, deny anything wrong until fined, try to drag out/smother the reporting, then spout something that could be claimed to be withing the definition of an apology no matter how dismissive and rejecting it may actually be,

and pull out those happy to BS to tell everyone nothing to see here, jog one plebs

 

'Tory/populist MP's dont want to rock the boat of their positions from anything as trivial as ministerial abuse of position, lying, corruption and VIProfiteering

 

The whole lot needs to be gone from politics and long past time the UK public woke up and smelled the rotten fish.

The head populist wont care, I'm sure many will be happy to take a back seat for a while to profit from their abuses while they have someone else to blame for the fallout

 

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The Mirror is saying that Sunak was told not to resign as it would be seen as regicide. It seems he was pretty angry to have turned up for a meeting and end up trapped in the birthday party, as he saw it and then fined.

 

I suppose he can wait for the next FPN, I'm sure there'll be another one along soon.

 

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The Mirror is saying that Sunak was told not to resign as it would be seen as regicide. It seems he was pretty angry to have turned up for a meeting and end up trapped in the birthday party, as he saw it and then fined.

 

That claim might be partly true, but all the water falls out the bottom of that bucket when he allegedly stays on just to protect the piece of crap who 'put him in that position', especially when he was repeatedly reported as lining himself up for replacement after 'regicide' on that very person. He was just a bit crap at it.

 

and Putting down a rabid dog that bites children seems a more fitting description to me than regicide.

 

 

1 hour ago, honeybee13 said:

 

I suppose he can wait for the next FPN, I'm sure there'll be another one along soon.

 

 

- but Sunaks lost the final few strands of any chance at any claim to personal honor IMO whether he is personally involved in any more FPNs or not. He should have just buggered off back to the USA. We all know hes going to anyway now.

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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

10 years to save the Vest

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and speaking of mad dogs, yet another real fox paws from Starmer .. again.

The prat should just have kept shtum - or preferably stirred the stormy waters against the populists.

Where the hell was his deputy when this was decided? Probably left out again. Pillock

 

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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

10 years to save the Vest

After Truss lost the shirt off the UKs back in 49 days

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just to simplify the sunak not resigning for Johnson issue

 

1. Does anyone really think Johnson would resign if every single one of his ministers resigned? Some are already well in his pocket so there would be always be some remaining.

or would he just replace any who did and carry on regardless?

 

2. Does anyone think sunak stayed because of some (however twisted) sense honor or duty to the position or the government?

or because it was in his own interests (one or both of: his choice to complete some 'projects for his own or pals intterests, or forced via further leak threats or some such)?

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The Tory Legacy

Record high Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

 

10 years to save the Vest

After Truss lost the shirt off the UKs back in 49 days

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