Jump to content


Mutating Corona Virus


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 468 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

A long way away from @theoldrougefake 'doctor' sites (Note - I added the question mark)

A ‘penicillin moment’ for cancer vaccines?

The world-first trial of Moderna’s personalised mRNA vaccine for melanoma may represent a “penicillin moment in cancer therapy”, says oncologist Georgina Long, who was involved in the Australian arm of the study. The vaccine uses genetic sequencing to identify unique mutations in each patient’s tumour. In a study of 157 people, those who received the vaccine and the immunotherapy pembrolizumab were 44% less likely to develop new tumours or die over three years compared with those who only received pembrolizumab. “It is possible to see that [patients] may have cancer as a long-term disease rather than a death sentence,” says Long.

ABC News | 4 min read
 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

WWW.UPI.COM

Antibodies produced in the nose -- the first line of defense against respiratory viruses like COVID-19 -- decline faster than antibodies...

 

 

WWW.NIAID.NIH.GOV

As scientists learn more about SARS-CoV-2 and its infection tactics, nasal vaccines appear to be a promising response.

 

WWW.NBCNEWS.COM

Research on nasal vaccines is mostly in its early phases in the U.S., though many scientists believe this twist on vaccination could prove...

 

 

WWW.THEATLANTIC.COM

Now they’re being used in China. But do they work?

 

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

Tiny numbers eh Mr Jugg
 

Last week, Pascal Soriot, the French-born Australian and Chief Executive Officer of the British-Swiss pharmaceutical company, AstraZeneca plc., whose vaccine for COVID-19 has produced reports of 875,000 adverse drug reactions in the U.K. public, including 1,334 deaths, was knighted “for services to U.K. sciences and leadership in the global response to the COVID-19 pandemic”.
 

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/12/23/arise-sir-astrazeneca/

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, theoldrouge said:

 vaccine for COVID-19 has produced reports of 875,000 adverse drug reactions in the U.K. public, including 1,334 deaths,

 

OK, I'll bite.

 

Let us say, even for sake of discussion, that the 1,334 deaths is true, AND that the vaccine is responsible for those 1,334 deaths (which hasn't been established!).

 

The unanswered question when "1,334 deaths" is brought forward is "how many deaths would have occurred without the vaccine". If it exceeds 1,334 (and especially if it vastly exceeds 1,334!), then surely the vaccine is the better option overall?.

 

Even if there was a 'risk free vaccine', (vaccine B) .. and the current vaccine being looked at was vaccine A, one would still have to compare the lives saved: if the lives saved by B were 1333 (or less) than vaccine  A's lives saved, A is still the better option, in terms of lives saved overall.

 

You can't quote "vaccine deaths" without looking at "vaccine lives saved" (unless you have an unreasonable anti-vaccine agenda, that is).

 

  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, theoldrouge said:

 AstraZeneca plc., whose vaccine for COVID-19 has produced reports of 875,000 adverse drug reactions in the U.K. public, including 1,334 deaths

 

That is a flat lie .. and  more than that - full of crap

.. unless you are disingenuously saying that anti-vax liars falsely  report 1334 deaths on their crappy scam sites ...

 

 

 

- Like that fake doctors site you linked that tries to pretend to be the genuine doctors.net BUT carries the disclaimer

"The presentations and information provided here does not necessarily reflect the views of any medical professionals"

- presumably to save itself from prosecution.

Heres the REAL one:

 

WWW.DOCTORS.NET.UK

Visit Doctors.net.uk for free COVID-19 resources, including the latest news, guidance and research and access to the online COVID-19...

 

 

 

 

There have been 9 deaths in the USA causally linked to vaccination. Its documented

and any prat can yellow card a headache after a vaccination - thats also documented

 

and Germany:

WWW.DW.COM

Reports of COVID-19 vaccines causing lethal side effects have been making headlines. DW looked into reports from several countries.

 

Put up some REAL actual evidence, something a bit more than your fringe anti-vax nutjob sites.

 

 

 

Edited by tobyjugg2

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

@theoldrouge

your report is ACTUALLY stating nothing more than that x people have died after having a vaccination you prat

- and  just wrapped it up in carefully worded conspiracy Piers Morgan terminology to suck in the loons and imply they think thats 'something' is being hidden as a conspiracy.

 

The only conspiracies here are you nutjobs.

 

they dont want to get sued for actually writing what you have.

Hope this sites got good lawyers for allowing your false claims and libel to stand. Astrazenica has.

Edited by tobyjugg2

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

The figures quoted are shown in the charts lower as deaths (from ANY cause) within 7 days of vaccination

- eg like run over by a car, fell off a cliff,  ...

 

Claiming they are vaccination deaths as @theoldrouge has done has taken it that step further than the septic dare do

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

more debunking of the septics false reporting as spread by anti vaxer liars

 

HEALTHFEEDBACK.ORG

While COVID-19 vaccines have indeed been associated with an elevated risk of certain adverse events like myocarditis, COVID-19...

 

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

So @theoldrouge

As you have

 

1. Linked an article that actually said the opposite of your intent and supported vaccination.

2. Linked a fake doctors website that had a disclaimer of 'not necessary doctors opinions @ this site' despite the site claiming to be only open to doctors.

3. Simply lied/incompetently misrepresented deaths (NOT) resulting from vaccination even worse than the disingenuous deceitful link you used.

4. Repeatedly linked already disproven anti-vax/fringe/nut sites to support your disingenuous (at best)anti-vax stance.

 

Would you define yourself as as Incompetent/stupid or Dishonest/liar?

- or all of the above?

If none of the above, please explain how?

 

Personally, i think it almost inconceivable that anyone could be that stupid despite the poor examples used, as surely anyone with even half a wit would see that the fantasies you linked are entirely at odds with reality?

 

 

Simple facts

Vaccinations save lives and protect from illness - by the millions and millions and millions

anti-vax lies kill

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

17 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

@theoldrouge

your report is ACTUALLY stating nothing more than that x people have died after having a vaccination you prat

- and  just wrapped it up in carefully worded conspiracy Piers Morgan terminology to suck in the loons and imply they think thats 'something' is being hidden as a conspiracy.

 

The only conspiracies here are you nutjobs.

 

they dont want to get sued for actually writing what you have.

Hope this sites got good lawyers for allowing your false claims and libel to stand. Astrazenica has.

Looks like you have had a few too many Mr Jugg
When you sober up have a read of the reference paragraph and the article as published in the Daily Sceptic. They match
Of course your responses reveal your views on censorship of anyone who disagrees with you 
A viewpoint that Chairman Mao would be proud
By coincidence an excellent article in today’s Sceptic describes your viewpoint exactly 

 

How Peer Review Became Censorship
 

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/12/24/how-peer-review-became-censorship/
 

 

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Its even in the article itself, albeit wrapped in conspiracy innuendo, ALL it is saying is xx people have died within a certain period of having a vaccine - for any reason

Absolutely NOTHING more.

 

The rest is just some rhetoric and @theoldrouges disingenuous 'quote that tries to imply there's a link

- a disingenuous claim which has been scientifically debunked. 

 

Its less meaningful than saying 5 billion plus people have died within 7 days of NOT having a covid vaccine

- which actually IS true. (and many millions of them HAVE died of a 'coronavirus)

 

Free speech of course includes the reasonable right to be wrong in what you claim

but is making a habit of being wrong, despite all the evidence free speech, or incompetence or simple dishonesty?

 

Show us the peer reviewed article that says what you claim.

Show us the peer reviewed article you said was linked a few of your posts ago - but it wasn't

- but no, you won't - you just post your false claims and run away.

 

 

The fact that you aren't arrested for spreading anti-vax lies so persistently demonstrates that free speech is in place, but its also free speech to call out demonstrated repeated falsehoods and liars.

 

Theres a reason Satan was defined as the father of lies. Many philosophies consider deliberate deception the ultimate sin - and the progenitor of all other sins.

 

Simple fact Vaccination saves lives.

Edited by tobyjugg2

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

Ministers' efforts to claw back cash from PPE fraud branded 'pitiful'.

 

 

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

Exclusive: only £18m has been retrieved by Department of Health, out of suspect Covid contracts potentially worth £630m

 

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks to Mr Musk looks like we may start to see what censorship looks like 
 

Twitter Files dump shows company SUPPRESSED debate and information from doctors and experts which clashed with White House - and suspended vaccine skeptic Alex Berenson at Biden's request
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11574573/Twitter-suppressed-covid-information-doctors-experts.html

Edited by theoldrouge

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Wonder how many CAG thread pages there will be, when the full facts on Covid and Covid vaccinations are known ?

 

Prediction:  Some time in 2030 and this thread If still running will be on page 10,001.

 

A bigger issue than Covid is potentially the collapse of healthcare systems, as countries struggle to maintain the services due to rising costs. And while people are living longer with more treatments available, unless they have the money to go private, they will wait years before they receive treatment. UK Government should think about using UK private health care facilities and also foreign health care. Why not send planes abroad full of people needing treatments, as the NHS will not be able to get the backlogs down to manageable numbers, without Government taking really drastic steps.

  • Like 1

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

 

If you want advice on your thread please PM me a link to your thread

Link to post
Share on other sites

Given the reports out of china, there could well be a lot less Maga republicans and anti-vaxxers by then ..-

But as you allude, probably still shouting the same lies as loudly

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

They can't fly people out only the elite with Private jets will be allowed to fly, Net Zero and all that. All will have to be available in the 15 Minute City or Zone as per WEF intentions.

WENTWORTHREPORT.COM

The 15 Minute City is Here. By Joanne Nova. The idea is that everything you regularly need will be within 15 minutes of where you live, and you...

 

  • Like 1

We could do with some help from you.

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

Have we helped you ...?         Please Donate button to the Consumer Action Group

If you want advice on your thread please PM me a link to your thread

The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian!

Link to post
Share on other sites

lets have a contest to find a better name .. My suggestion: Towns

 

 

In the meantime

 

WWW.NATURE.COM

An mRNA-based vaccine encoding antigens from all known influenza virus A and B subtypes worked well in animal models — which offers...

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41591-022-00113-0

Edited by tobyjugg2

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

US imposes Covid-19 testing requirement on travellers arriving from China

 

Bevan Hurley

 

The United States will require travellers from China to show a negative Covid-19 test result, federal health officials announced on Wednesday.

 

Passengers flying to the US from China will need to get a test no more than two days before flying and present the results to their airline before boarding.

 

The move comes after Beijing’s easing of its zero Covid policy led to rapid rise in infections.

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

PLEASE HELP US TO KEEP THIS SITE RUNNING

EVERY POUND DONATED WILL HELP US TO KEEP HELPING OTHERS

 

 

 

 

Any help I am able to give is from my own experience only. Should you have any doubt you should contact a qualified professional.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Twitter fell over left right and center last night didnt it?

 

and when Twitter was contacted, TICIC (The Idiot Currently In Charge) had sacked the people who 'managed' press when the systems had issues ... as well as the people who kept it running hadn't he?

Sacked the 'communications department - of a communications company.

 

and hes had a huge chunk of data hacked hasn't he?

 

LOL

 

 

WWW.PCMAG.COM

CEO Elon Musk was less than helpful, tweeting that the site 'works for me.'

 

WWW.BBC.COM

Politicians and celebrities are said to be affected but the scale of the data breach is unverified.

 

 

Edited by tobyjugg2

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

Meanwhile, the CDC has started analysing long covid and found 3.500 deaths from it just from its analysis so far

- and thats died - not 'just' really ill

 

 

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/12/16/long-covid-cdc-report-shows-more-than-3-500-americans-have-died/10901530002/

 

Edited by tobyjugg2

The Tory Legacy

Record high: Taxes, Immigration, Excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Crumbling: Hospitals, Schools, council services, businesses and roads

 

If only the Govt had thrown a protective ring around care homes

with the same gusto they do around their crooked MPs

Link to post
Share on other sites

style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 468 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...