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on 19/10/2018 I have parked my motorbike next to the car bay in Olympic Park, the ground was not marked by yellow crossing lines there, while I am pretty sure it was in other places, so I assumed it is not a problem to park there. Received a PCN on that day and waited for NTK which arrived on 21/11/2018. The Parking Charge is 100£ at the moment. If not paid in 29 days, I am informed (threatened) that charge will go up by another 60£

 

I will try to scan and redact the NTK once I am in the office and will send it here as well

 

Questionnaire:

 

Date of infringement: 19/10/2018 at 13:15

Not appealed to PCN

Received NTK: 21/11/2918

The NTK mentions Schedule 4 of Protection of Freedoms Act 2012

Parking Company is Gemini Parking Solutions

Location is Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park London

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Hi and welcome to CAG

 

Have a look at some other threads to see wht happened in those cases

 

Here's one

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?468641-Gemini-Parking-Solutions-PCN-Queen-Elizabeth-Olympic-Park-On-a-motorbike&p=4938261&viewfull=1#post4938261

 

and another

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?460534-Gemini-Parking-Solutiobs&p=4866552&viewfull=1#post4866552

 

plenty of others too.

 

Gemini are members of the BPA and must follow the codes of practice.

 

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did they slap a ticket on the bike at the time? I not then they are too late sending out their NTK.

besides that no parking isnt an offer of a contract to park, it is prohibitive so you cant agree with them to break a contract as the only way of forming it.

They are just stupid but they are also greedy so telling them this wont make them stop trying to collect money they dont deserve.

Ignore them until they decide to threaten court andthen we will suggest what to say.

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The NTK is not POFA complinat, thye have missed off the vitakl detaisl of who the creditor is, thye havent used the correct phrase to indicate what is owed and how much has been paid to date and the wording should say they dotn know who the driver is so can rely on the POFA to create a keeper liability. Incompetence or laziness- doesnt matter, the end result is that this isnt an invoice that is enforceable on ANYONE, let alone the keeper.

So, add that to their failure to understnad the difference between a contract to park and prohibition and they are stuffed.

However, appeal to POPLA and they will tell you that you havent obeyed the signs so you owe the money, again ignoring the difference in the relationships created by the signs that dont hold you to anything.

So, what to do? I wouild ignore them and dont appeal as you will only make them think they might get you to pay. Let them spend their money chasing you and when they threaten court action with a proper letter before action you let them know that they havent got a contrcat to break and they are rubbish at their job so ought to ask the BPA to give them some more training in joined up writing

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Those clowns would have put a ticket on a pushbike with a kiddie trailer if it was left like you parked your motorbike.

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no that's a letter from a powerless DCA not a letter of claim from one their favourite paperwork only fake/tame solicitors

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Agreed. Notice how the letters say 'may consider' and 'if our client'. This means nothing at all.

 

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Hey Guys,

 

I thought I would jump on this message as I also encountered a similar issue with Gemini. 

I was planning to ignore as recommended above. Like the original poster, I didn't see any road markings and I fact saw no instructions or signage at the time. 

 

The only issue for me is that as I had a rental car, could this make me more liable?  

 

PCN to hirer attached. 

 

Thanks in advanced.

 

 

2019-03-13_22-55_(1).pdf

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this topic is for advising mbazalik

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Also your Reg No and PCN numbers are shown

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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