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    • I'm trying to understand it all but I certainly tend to agree with my colleague @dx100uk that it looks as if you may have been taken for a ride. You found an advertisement for a bag on an online sales site. Instead of going through the established procedure of that site, which presumably allows them to recover a commission from the seller you started dealing directly with the seller who is an unknown person to you and of course that allowed the seller to avoid paying the commission. At whose suggestion was it that you went off-site? You then pay by PayPal but instead of logging it with PayPal as a payment for a purchased item, you tell PayPal that it was actually simply a gift or transaction between friends and family. This also allowed the seller to avoid paying a PayPal fee on the money. At whose suggestion was it that you paid in this way?       I don't say that you definitely have been scammed, but it doesn't look very good. This is how it might have happened: after you agreed to take the transaction off-site, so you lost the protection of the established system – and the seller avoided the commission and also avoided the sales site knowing that they had sold their item, you then agreed to pay the seller some money – but not for a purchase – simply as a gift. This has two consequences. Firstly, the seller avoids a PayPal fee and secondly, because PayPal has been misled as to the purpose of the payment, you lose the protection of PayPal if it turns out that you've been scammed or there is some other problem with the transaction. The seller then apparently sent you the parcel and they sent you pictures of a package with your address on it. Separately they sent you a Hermes tracking number – but there is no evidence that the package was actually posted to your address. The seller might simply have taken a picture with your address and sent that to you by way of reassurance – and then changed the label and posted the parcel to themselves but sent you a tracking number which is inaccessible to you and in respect of which you will be prevented from getting any information. All you've seen is a parcel with your address on it. All you've been given is a tracking number which satisfied you for a while until the parcel did not arrive and then when you started to make enquiries, you found that you were unable to access any details referring to the tracking number. Of course the tracking number says that the item was delivered – because maybe it was – but in that case it was delivered to the address on the parcel which might have been the seller's own address – or the address of a friend. I don't want to say that this is definitely how it happened, but it is a plausible scenario. Of course Hermes is an awful lot of parcels – but on the other hand I expect that most of the parcel is that going to Hermes hands are delivered successfully. We only get the bad stories on this forum. I can imagine that Hermes rate of successful deliveries is better than 97% because otherwise people wouldn't simply just hate them, they would go out of business.   We can help you bring a complaint against Hermes if you want. However, on the basis of what you say, the odds are stacked against you but it would be useful to try and find out the address which was associated with tracking number. As far as your apparent willingness to travel hundred and 50 miles to ask for your money back, don't bother. If you did actually go there, are you sure that the seller actually lives at the address that you have been given? What evidence do you have that? Of course if you found that the seller didn't reside at that address then it is slamdunk that you have been scammed. But then what are you going to do? You can try to inform the police but of course it won't get you anywhere. You can inform the sales website – but they will say that you brought it on yourself because you agreed to go off-site. You can inform PayPal – that they will say that because you sent the money which was calculated to avoid their fees, you have lost the protection. If you travelled the 150 miles and found that the seller did reside at that address, do you really think that they are going to hand your money over to you? If they are acting dishonestly then they will simply say that it is nothing to do with them, that they addressed it all correctly and they don't understand what has happened and that this is simply Hermes up to their old tricks. What are you going to do? You simply risk getting into a very nasty argument and depending on how bad it went, you might even find that the police are called and I'm afraid that they would be looking at you – not the seller. Maybe you can answer the questions that I've post above as to who it is who initiated the various ways of doing business.    
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    • Yes Unicorn feed tax again, can't sue the keeper for more than the Original Charge, so any additional Debt Collection fees aka the £60 they add is abuse,iof process as per HHJ Harvey at Lewes county Court What lookedinfroinfo is indicating is that the main signage on entry and dotted around is merely an " Invitation to Treat", not the offer, the Offer and Acceptance occurs at the payment machine, so wording there is key.
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I got this a couple of months ago and ignored it. It looks cheap as and is "signed" Gladstones Solicitors, doesn't look like the type of letter a solicitor would send out.

 

I was wondering is this thing in breach of GDPR in any way?

 

I take it I did the correct thing by ignoring it?

 

Cheers

 

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Yes, go for it

You could ad that you are not sure whether they are stupid since they sent an LBA last year or whether it is an annual account of what they think is owed. Looking forward to receiving another LBA

While Gladstones do act for the parking companies, this letter is NOT a Letter Before Claim/Action. It is just another begging letter. Gladstones have a vested interest in IPC members in using them for claims as the directors of Gladstones an the IPC are one and the same.

 

 

Cheap looking letters are Gladstones standard format. Ignore the reference to Beavis and Parking Eye as this case is nothing at all similar with that case.

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Ignore my last response. I was thinking of Premier Parking, not Premier Park. My bad.

 

 

 

In the last few months, they have taken action on just three cases compared with the amount of tickets issued (almost 41k) so work out the chances of this actually going to court.

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It should state clearly at the top of the letter to avoid confusion. It should also give you a time frame to respond before court action starts. I would look around other threads to see if there are any LBAs there

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Gladdys dont need to send out LBA's because they are the worlds greatest solicitors and have superpowers that mean they will win any claim their clients wish to make. ...... unless some sod defends and then they will skulk off having lost their client a few hundred quid in costs..... but they still make a profit so doesnt matter.

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time to send bw one of erics snotty insulting letters then.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I would suggest that you send somethig like this.

 

Dear sirs, your clients need to visit the opticians and that way they may be able to tell the difference between the driver of a vehicle and its passengers.

 

As the contract advertised on the sign is with the driver alone then a passenger leaving the site has nothing to do with this contract and your clients operatives will just be considered voyeurs  and may gets themselves clapped in irons if they continue following and photographing random people. I trust that  you being the parking world's second cleverest lawyers  will know that they will get trounced in court if they try their luck and you will advise them from wasting their time and money on a claim that will only embarrass them.

 

In the meanwhile it would be useful if operatives for private parking companies wore some sort of identifying uniform so motorists are able to distinguish them from the other perverts hanging around areas accessible to the public. i would suggest in Premier Park's case a dirty mac would be appropriate.

 

now as this will appear in any documents bundle filed in a court claim thery will struggle to advise their client that you havnet followed the protocols and tried to sort things out without the matter going to court.

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Premier Park ANPR PCN BW PAP letter - for Parking and Leaving Markham Retail Park

send exactly that!!

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no. you miss the point EB is making.

read it carefully again

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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leaving the site has nothing to do with this contract and your clients operatives will just be considered voyeurs  and may gets themselves clapped in irons if they continue following and photographing random people.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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so what alternative letter would you send, one saying that you agree they have the right tio photograph up your skirt and will pay them £100 for being abused?

 

they dont know who was driving and have only contacted the keeper because they havwe the car reg. they know nothing else.

So in response to your question, you need to look at the bigger picture and start understanding what is going on

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no harm in repeating it.

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You could ad that you are not sure whether they are stupid since they sent an LBA last year or whether it is an annual account of what they think is owed.

Looking forward to receiving another LBA next year from them.

 

On the other hand it could be that they are trying to pluck up courage to actually go to Court this time. 

 

Advise them to bring it on as you need a laugh and the money coming for breaching GDPR will come in handy.

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