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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.   House or Flat? Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. Lenders have a legal obligation to sell the property for the best price they can get. If they feel the offer is low they won't sell it, because it's likely the borrower will say the same. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Again, points as above. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) Why serve a delapidations notice? If it's in the terms of the lease to maintain the property to a good standard, then serve an S146 notice instead as it's a clear breach of the lease. I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. Enfranchisement isn't something that can be "voided", it's in the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 that leaseholders have the right to buy the freehold of the property. It's normal, whether it is a "normal" leaseholder or a repossession with a leasehold house, to claim this right of enfranchisement and sell the property with said rights attached and the purchase price of the freehold included in the final completion price. That's likely what the mortgage provider wished to do. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at? Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. So this is dealt with then. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.  You wouldn't vary a lease through a lease extension. You'd need a Deed of Variation for that. This may be done at the same time but the lease has already been extended once and that's all they have a right to. The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved. The lease has already been extended once so they have no right to another extension. It seems pretty easy to just get the lawyer to say no and stick by those terms as the law is on your side there. Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. Again, order them to revert it as they didn't have permission to do the works, or else serve an S146 notice for breach of the lease. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
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Bit of an update

 

Couple of weeks ago i have received a notice of proposed location to the small claims track.

I have filled the N180 form were i agreed to mediation and send it back to the court and send a copy to Moriarty.

 

Today i received from Moriarty the following letter accompanied by three bills and the notice of assignment

 

``We would refer to your Defence as originally filed with the Northampton County court business centre, the contents of which have been duly noted.

Please find enclosed the relevant documentation pertaining to the above stated case.

Our client wishes to confirm that they are happy to settle this matter by way of a suitable out-of-court payment arrangement or via the small claims mediation service and we would invite you to contact our offices to discuss these options in further detail``

 

They have sent me three bills dated 16/10/2011, 17/11/2011 and 17/12/2011

 

Also a copy of notice of assignment

`` 15 April 2014

 

Dear Mr a.....

Talk Talk limited have now assigned your account to JC International Aqucquisitions, LLc as of 21st March 2014. Please note that Talk talk Telecom Limited are no longer responsible for the management of your account``

The notice if not signed it just states at the bottom Yours sincerely JCIA Costumer services.

No other documents were received with the letter from Moriarty

 

I have noticed conflicted information: on the initial claim form they are stating that notice was given to me on the 26/03/2014 but on the notice of assignment which is dated 15/04/2017 the date is 21/03/2014.

 

Any advice in the next steps i need to take will be much appreciated.

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they are sending these letter to quite a few people offering settlements as they don't appear to be winning many cases

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I have got my mediation date and time.

 

Today I have received a call from the court asking if I'm happy to go ahead.

The answer was yes.

 

However since Moriartry have failed to send me all the documentation requested in the CPR

should I email the court and inform them that the mediation will not be suitable and explain why?

Or should I go ahead with the mediation?

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" The answer was yes. "

 

Your answer was yes?

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Why did you state yes then state .......

 

" However since Moriartry have failed to send me all the documentation requested in the CPR

should I email the court and inform them that the Mediation will not be suitable and explain why? "

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Why did you state yes then state .......

 

" However since Moriartry have failed to send me all the documentation requested in the CPR

should I email the court and inform them that the Mediation will not be suitable and explain why? "

 

I did not expect the phone call and did not realy know what to answer. Reading through other posts i know realize maybe it was not the correct approach. Since this is new to me and probably to a lot of people mistakes will be made. So should i email the court or go ahead with the mediation?

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shame you didn't go read those threads first then as advised weeks ago....

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I did not expect the phone call and did not realy know what to answer. Reading through other posts i know realize maybe it was not the correct approach. Since this is new to me and probably to a lot of people mistakes will be made. So should i email the court or go ahead with the mediation?

 

In their email is stated ``If after reading the above you are still unsure whether or not mediation is suitable, or if you have any other queries,please call the Mediation Team on the number below``

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they will be ringing again to make a date...inform them then that your still waiting on disclosures.

 

In the meantime try to read a few threads then you aware of what could possibly happen next.

 

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Thank you Andy

 

I have managed to ring the court and explained that I`m still waiting on disclosure.

 

The mediation appointment was canceled and i was advised it will go to court

 

I have read other threads and will carry on reading, however i learn as i go.

 

Do i need to contact Moriartry and ask for the documentation again?

 

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No...no further requests...they will have to disclose everything if they wish to proceed at the appropriate stage.

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Happy New Year everyone

 

i got my court date, middle of February.

 

I received the notice of allocation.

 

Apart from sending the witness statement to the court and a copy to the claimant is there anything else what i need to do?

 

From reading on similar threads the witness statement is the defence in a different format. Or am I wrong to think this?

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well sort of

there are numerous examples in those threads already

 

as with most of the others they'll probably discontinue anyway,

 

so your WS is due 14 days before hand

but hold off until the last minute to send it

see if MMF file theirs first

then we can pull it apart.

 

if you've given or they have your email address

block them as they've a habit of use email to send you your copy.early to frighten you

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The court date is 23rd of Feb.

 

By 26rd of Jan each party must deliver to every other party and the court office copies of all documents on which he intends to rely at the hearing.

 

By 19th of Feb the claimant must file and serve a hearing bundle.

 

by which date should i send the witness statement?

 

They don`t have my email address.

 

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as it say 26th jan...:madgrin:

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Good evening

 

I haven't yet received anything from Moriarty. This is my Witness Statement which i plan to send next week before Friday. Will i need to change anything or will this do?

Thank you

 

In The County Court at .....

Court address.......

Claim Number .......

Between J.C International Acquisition LLC( claimant) and Andrew ...... ( defendant)

Witness Statement of Andrew ......

I Andrew ........ of my address the defendant in this case, make this statement in support of my evidence against the claimant, J.C Acquisition LLC. The matters set out below are within my own knowledge, except where I indicate to the contrary.

1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature.The claimant's’ particulars of claims disclose no legal cause of action as the claimant's statement of case is insufficiently particularised and does not comply or even attempt to comply with CPR part 16.2 The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made.

 

2.The claim is denied.I am unaware of what debt the claimant refers to.I have requested information pertaining to the claimants claim by way of a CPR 31.14 request sent on 25.09.2017 and which the claimant received it on the 26.09.2017The claimant has failed to respond.

 

3.The claim is denied the Claimant has not served a Notice of Assignment pursuant to the law of property act 1925 and the Claimant has failed to prove:

(a) how the Defendant has entered into an agreement; and

(b) how the Defendant has reached the amount claimed for; and

© how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim;

 

4. The claimant has failed to provide the defendant with a witness statement or copies of all documents on which he intends to rely in court.

 

5.Notwithstanding the above should the alleged amount claimed include an early termination charge(s) amounting to the entire balance of the remaining contract. OFCOM guidance states that any Early Termination Charge that is made up of the entire balance if the remaining contract is unlikely to be fair as it fails to take into account the fact that the provider no longer has to provide and pay for their service.

 

6. As per Civil Procedureicon Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed.

 

7. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer crediticon Act 1974.

 

8. By reason of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.

 

I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true ( or words to that effect)

Signed.......................

Date

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give it till Tuesday after your normal post comes

if no WS from moriarty by then

ring the court and tell them they have failed to abide by the judges orders of date xxx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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poss not.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thats not a witness statement ...its a defence and yes you must still file yours on time...dont worry about sending the Solicitors a few days late.

 

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Thats not a witness statement ...its a defence and yes you must still file yours on time...dont worry about sending the Solicitors a few days late.

 

Andy

Andy if is not a witness statement any chance of a bit of hepl i dont want to get it wrong. I need to send it tomorow. Thank you
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