'Unsafe lorry' ban starts in London

[NewsBot]

A ban on "unsafe lorries" on London's roads, introduced as part of efforts to protect cyclists, comes into force.

 

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[obiter dictum]

Excuse my ignorance but i thought this was already law (Side Guards )to protect Motorcyclist and cars crashing into the side

[renegadeimp]

Those are trailers cap. The article means tankers etc. As there currently is no law for guards on them. For artics and trailers. They need to have guards

[obiter dictum]

Thanks

 

I was under the impression they were needed for all "O" licensed vehicles 7.5 Tonne and up

[Consumer dude]

How about an unsafe cyclist ban..

[renegadeimp]

Just trailers as far as I'm aware or vehicles with high sides and large gaps underneath. . And even then it's only to stop vehicles going underneath them and being crushed or having the top cut off the car. That's why some trucks don't have them

[obiter dictum]

A minority of cyclists, especially in london are a menace

 

They ignore traffic lights and travel with excess speed to the conditions of the road

 

They may wear their leotards to look cool, what about reflective clothing?

Cyclists need to be regulated as well for their own safety as well as motorised vehicles

 

I will go as far as these mobility scooters as well on our pavements to be limited to 5mph

 

I am not prejudiced just to cyclist, that is all road users

 

America has "Jay walking" penalties for pedestrians as an example

[renegadeimp]

Punishment for 'jay walking' is one of the worst ideas imaginable.

[obiter dictum]

I got stopped by a cop in Vegas for Jay walking.

Crossing when the lights had changed

 

As soon as he noticed my English accent he was fine after i apologised

 

His response was "Be Safe"

[reallymadwoman]

A minority of cyclists, especially in london are a menace

 

They ignore traffic lights and travel with excess speed to the conditions of the road

 

They may wear their leotards to look cool, what about reflective clothing?

Cyclists need to be regulated as well for their own safety as well as motorised vehicles

 

I will go as far as these mobility scooters as well on our pavements to be limited to 5mph - If they're on the pavement, they're already limited to 4mph, which in my opinion is still too fast when they can do the same speed in reverse

 

I am not prejudiced just to cyclist, that is all road users

 

America has "Jay walking" penalties for pedestrians as an example

 

Cyclists on the pavement are my main issue - absolutely fine if they're paying attention to other users etc, but not fine if they're speeding along regardless of anyone else who might prefer not to use the road

[andydd]

How about an unsafe cyclist ban..

 

This is a bit insulting to the large numbers killed in the capital by lorries each year, any small change which can save lives is a good step.

[andydd]

A minority of cyclists, especially in london are a menace

 

They ignore traffic lights and travel with excess speed to the conditions of the road

 

They may wear their leotards to look cool, what about reflective clothing?

Cyclists need to be regulated as well for their own safety as well as motorised vehicles

 

I will go as far as these mobility scooters as well on our pavements to be limited to 5mph

 

I am not prejudiced just to cyclist, that is all road users

 

America has "Jay walking" penalties for pedestrians as an example

 

Utter crap !

[obiter dictum]

I lived for 15 years in Camden town, and did a stint as a motorcycle despatch rider

[SabreSheep]

I think the fact that there are large amount of cyclists that put themselves in harms way by ignoring lights etc does not mean the safeguards on Lorries are a bad idea.

 

Cyclist Accidents with lorries tend not to discriminate on whether someone is a good or bad cyclist. Anything reasonable that can reduce fatalities is a good thing surely.

[obiter dictum]

I myself think education is the key to all road users, with a big stick (Penalty order) if you do it again

 

Something the old bill do with people caught with a bit of puff

[citizenB]

Cycling might be healthy

Cycling might be green

However a lot of cyclists are downright arrogant road users.

They sneak up the side of lorries, where they cant be seen.

 

They ignore traffic lights, don't always use hand signals to let other road users know what they are doing

When they use the pavement, they ignore pedestrians as well.

 

They should at the very least have 3rd party insurance.

[obiter dictum]

Now third party insurance is a good idea

[dpick]

I have a 5th wheel caravan that is towed by a pick-up total length some 38 feet. I was first in inside lane indicating left turn. There are 7 indicators over the length of the left side caravan and pick-up. lights started to turn green looked nothing other than que of traffic behind me looked at lights again all ok started forward and after about 8 feet turned left still nothing in mirror. about 2 seconds later a cyclist hit between pick up and caravan.

 

I was lucky he was just scratched and car behind gave statement to police saying the bike came up on pavement and road out onto road through dropped kerb for light crossing.

 

The cyclist said he thought he could get through the gap between pick-up and the white van.

 

I will say that this twit was not your normal every day cyclist they normally give this set-up very wide berth only the prats that cannot wait to meet there maker ignore it.

 

I also think this twit was in need of specsavers my set-up is not white but black and silver with running lights same as an artic.

 

I live up North and apart from some of the boy racers I find cyclists to be well mannered round the big stuff.

 

dpick

[Baz1994]

I drive in London on a daily basis and can say that there is good and bad in everyone, including bus drivers and pedestrians.

 

Where cyclists are concerned I find most to be sensible but there are few who dice with death and believe these are the one's that need to be educated and targeted. Jumping red lights, sneaking up on the inside when turning left (even though there are warning signs on the vehicle), no lights, no hi-viz and riding on pavements.

 

Hats off to those who do cycle in London and take care

[Guest]

Cyclists on the pavement are my main issue -

 

 

ditto. partic when there is a cycle lane right next to it. i dont move for them, and have had a few verbals.

also, it doesnt help when theres a pcso cycling on the pavement!

apparently cyclists may be allowed to use the pavement if the road is deemed too dangerous? but how far does that go..

[Guest]

....t there are few who dice with death ...:

 

some of those cycle couriers! for eg.

[Consumer dude]

Punishment for 'jay walking' is one of the worst ideas imaginable.

 

Why ?

[Baz1994]

On numerous occasions I've seen cyclists jump zebra crossing when traffic stops, pedestrians step out on mobile phone not even looking then collision - and then watch both blame each other

 

As I said before everyone needs educating and reminding, not just the motorist

[king12345]

I am in London most days and without fail I see cyclists overtaking moving vehicles on the nearside at junctions.

I will never forget a stupid woman cyclist who squeezed herself between a lorry stopped at the lights and the kerb.

Lights turned green and fortunately the lorry driver didn't move because he had seen her inching forward a few millilitres from his wheels.

He leaned over the nearside window and had a go at her.

She swore at the lorry driver and then passed the light which had turned red again.

Seriously, if a was a police officer I would have beaten her with a baton.

And don't get me started on the crazy wannabe tour de France winners dressed in Lycra who must break their own record every day, regardless of traffic conditions.

I finish by inviting anyone in west London to go to Richmond park and observe the mental cyclists who speed past cars religiously below the 20mph limit: Hundreds of them!

I would lock them up if I could!

[citizenB]

I finish by inviting anyone in west London to go to Richmond park and observe the mental cyclists who speed past cars religiously below the 20mph limit: Hundreds of them!

I would lock them up if I could!

 

I do regularly when I visit relatives in that area.. it is a nightmare. The Park is almost off limits to other users when the cyclists are out