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    • I see, shame, I think if a claim is 'someone was served' then proof of that should be mandatory. Appreciate your input into the WS whenever you get chance, thanks in advance
    • Paper trail off the original creditor often confirms the default and issue of a notice...not having or being able to disclose the actual copy or being able to produce a copy less so. Creditors are not compelled to keep copies of the actual default notice so you will in most cases get a reconstituted version but must contain accurate figures/dates/format.     .    
    • Including Default Notice Andy? Ok, I think this is the best I can do.. it all makes sense with references to their WS. They have included exhibits that dates don't match the WS about them, small but still.. if you're going to reference letters giving dates, then the exhibits should be correct, no? I know I redacted them too much, but one of the dates differs to the WS by a few months. IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim. 1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 24/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • AMEX and TSB the 2 Creditors who you need to worry about the least, ever!  Just stop paying them and forget about it, ignore all their threat o gram letters.  Only if, and with these 2 it's a massive if, you end up with a claim form you need to respond, and there will be plenty of help here.
    • No, nothing from Barclays. Turns out i have 2 accounts on here, and i posted originally on the other one. Sorry about that.  
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I must phrase this very carefully because I've already had a warning from CAG to play nice and not offend anyone. So I'll put my question as soft as possible:

 

I went through the Work Programme at Ingeus for two years, total waste of time. I'm now about 8 months clear and my JCP advisor has told me I have a month of signing on twice a week and going to National Career Service left before she will mandate me to signing every day or doing community service like a criminal or finding my own voluntary work like some old nan sorting cardigans in a Scope charity shop.

 

This awful pressure is making me feel so anxious and depressed that I'm seriously considering applying for Support Group ESA just so I can be left alone. Who wouldn't?

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I suffered with anxiety and depression which led to a full blown panic attack many years ago whilst working and since then have been on Anti-Depressants for the condition. Some days are better than others. It is funny you should mention this as the last week or so I have been feeling down and had stomach pains and signs of depression again but I try to get by just trying to do as much as possible. It is no secret that since being out of work and under JCP and INGEUS I have been ill a lot more - if I am continually harrassed like some seem to be I can see myself spiralling in to a deeper depression and that is all because of this sickening regime. Is it any wonder a lot more people are on ESA?!

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Certainly I think most people involved with the WP and PWP "support" find it stressful. So yes, I am surprised that more people don't end up claiming ESA in order to ease the pressure. Of course, a read around the threads here will illustrate just how difficult it is to get into the Support Group.

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I get stressed but I try to not let it all get to me so I vent so it doesn't bottle up

I'm on PWPS (S for support but I omit the S as I have had zero support, I have had terrible treatment and feel abused by some) But it also can be amusing like when my adviser threw her toys out of the pram and was virtually shouting

I think the PWP stuff has been designed to create stress, anxiety and depression and the other feelings linked to this deliberately, I know there's a few nasty characters who do the PWP and one who is there just to sin people on, they can't do much to get people jobs but they can do their worst to get sanctions achieved

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I think that is the key, we all get stressed and worked up but at the end of the day there simply are not enough jobs to go around and people do not want to work zero contract or part time - they want to work hard and get a fair wage for doing so even if it is something new to them. The people in charge know this but must follow their sickening regime which I am sure includes directives to p*ss people off enough so that they lose their rag and get sanctioned or simply do not sign on for their lousy £70 this plundering them in to a deeper depression, food and utility poverty. So far I have played their silly games but I am sure there will come a point where I snap

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I am currently on Post Work Programme support since November 2013 and its getting me stressed with all the tough things Job Centre is telling me to do.

 

 

I don't know if everyone knows but since Friday my Job Seekers been sent to a decision maker because my adviser felt that I am not doing enough Job Seeking, yeah right !! I am applying for Jobs every day, I even had a interview this afternoon in Todmorden, if that's not enough Job Seeking then I don't really know what is.

 

 

Been told today that I have been sanctioned for the following period between 26.04.2014 - 08.05.2014 but adviser didn't know how long I have been sanctioned for, anyone can take a guess how long have I been sanctioned? this country is a joke. I am just glad my Housing Benefit is safe, and also I applied for hardship today which I really need money :(

 

 

Times like this I wish I was still on the Work Programme because I won't have to put up with all this rubbish my Job Centre advisor telling me what to do. with just work programme, I just go to sign on that was it, why on earth did I wanted the time to come to finish work programme, I totally regret it right now :(

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I must phrase this very carefully because I've already had a warning from CAG to play nice and not offend anyone. So I'll put my question as soft as possible:

 

I went through the Work Programme at Ingeus for two years, total waste of time. I'm now about 8 months clear and my JCP advisor has told me I have a month of signing on twice a week and going to National Career Service left before she will mandate me to signing every day or doing community service like a criminal or finding my own voluntary work like some old nan sorting cardigans in a Scope charity shop.

 

This awful pressure is making me feel so anxious and depressed that I'm seriously considering applying for Support Group ESA just so I can be left alone. Who wouldn't?

 

You can't choose to be in the Support Group, or else all ESA claimants would be in it. Most ESA claimants will end up in the WRAG Group, unfortunately the difference between ESA and JSA is becoming increasingly blurred. Most WP providers are totally useless when it comes to dealing with ESA clients, often ignoring the rules set down by the DWP and making them up as they go along.

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I must phrase this very carefully because I've already had a warning from CAG to play nice and not offend anyone. So I'll put my question as soft as possible:

 

I went through the Work Programme at Ingeus for two years, total waste of time. I'm now about 8 months clear and my JCP advisor has told me I have a month of signing on twice a week and going to National Career Service left before she will mandate me to signing every day or doing community service like a criminal or finding my own voluntary work like some old nan sorting cardigans in a Scope charity shop.

 

This awful pressure is making me feel so anxious and depressed that I'm seriously considering applying for Support Group ESA just so I can be left alone. Who wouldn't?

 

 

I sympathise and don't believe that people should be forced into 'volunteering' (if you're being forced it's not volunteering).

 

 

However, I do believe people should think again about volunteering and what they can offer and what it can offer them - it isn't all charity shops. Before I was incapacitated, I always volunteered, and as well as all the other stuff it offered, it also has led to a couple of job opportunities. I've also worked with volunteers who have then gone on to work (paid) for the organisation. So please don't dismiss it out of hand, don't just be thinking that you will be giving something for nothing, you get plenty back. This website can show you the great opportunities available in your area:

 

 

http://www.do-it.org.uk/

 

 

Another option is to write to a load of employers you'd like to work for (enclosing your CV) , who are likely to have jobs available in the future and offer to do work experience for them. Offer yourself for a limited period - say 4 - 6 weeks. You get some experience with the company, they get to know you, and if a job comes up in future, you're a known quantity to them and more likely to get shortlisted.

 

 

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But do you get left alone on ESA, as i had a friend who was at ingeus at me and she was on ESA :???:

 

Only ESA WRAG claimants can be put on the WP, it is mandatory. No you don't get left alone, the "coaches" suggest "helpful" things like getting you job ready, ie barriers to work, dealing with your health issues etc. When I was at Seetec, my third "coach" asked me about my health issues, I asked her about her medical qualifications. Since she possessed no relevant qualifications, the conversation ended there and then.

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I sympathise and don't believe that people should be forced into 'volunteering' (if you're being forced it's not volunteering).

 

 

However, I do believe people should think again about volunteering and what they can offer and what it can offer them - it isn't all charity shops. Before I was incapacitated, I always volunteered, and as well as all the other stuff it offered, it also has led to a couple of job opportunities. I've also worked with volunteers who have then gone on to work (paid) for the organisation. So please don't dismiss it out of hand, don't just be thinking that you will be giving something for nothing, you get plenty back. This website can show you the great opportunities available in your area:

 

 

http://www.do-it.org.uk/

 

 

Another option is to write to a load of employers you'd like to work for (enclosing your CV) , who are likely to have jobs available in the future and offer to do work experience for them. Offer yourself for a limited period - say 4 - 6 weeks. You get some experience with the company, they get to know you, and if a job comes up in future, you're a known quantity to them and more likely to get shortlisted.

 

 

Wow I sound really preachy don't I? Better shut up now.

 

Not 'preachy' at all, that's actually really good advice and has helped me, so thank you :)

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Had similar at INGEUS, I had a day when I had to go for blood tests at the hospital and then for a GP appointment so my job search that day was blank - adviser asked why this was and I said personal appointments at hospital, she asked what was wrong and I said it was personal and I am not divulging anything to you. Thought I would be asked to produce proof - I wasn't but if I was I would have hit the roof

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Had similar at INGEUS, I had a day when I had to go for blood tests at the hospital and then for a GP appointment so my job search that day was blank - adviser asked why this was and I said personal appointments at hospital, she asked what was wrong and I said it was personal and I am not divulging anything to you. Thought I would be asked to produce proof - I wasn't but if I was I would have hit the roof

 

When i had a hospital appointment once, i had to take a letter in to prove where i was going.

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