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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Just a year away from SB and bryan carter gained a default ccj at my old address 2 month ago,I only found out after a credit search

 

I intend to apply for a set aside with a defence of not having received docs and original creditor should not have sold as they were in default of cca request and dsa request

What are the prospects of winning set aside

 

Relatively small debt but I still have equity in old address that is now rented

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First question. Did carter or the DCA they represented know that you are at your new address?

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Thanks for the reply, yes I still have the correspondence, can I use it as part of the setaside

I am looking for grounds to guarantee it being set aside

Can a failure to supply cca and not supplying me with dsar and so setting account in dispute 4 years ago win itOC should not have sold the account in dispute

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Well if they wrote to you at your correct address and fully knew where you were but they issued the claim to a previous address that is looking pretty good for you.

 

Hang fire for the legal guys to get here.

 

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Hi ...some information with regards to setting a side a regular Default Judgment:-

 

Regular Default Judgments

 

If the defendant fails to respond to a claim, which has been issued and served in accordance with the law, the claimant is entitled to apply for a default judgment. A default judgment entered in these circumstances is said to be “regular”.

 

The Law on Applying to Set Aside a Regular Default Judgment

 

If a defendant wants to set aside a default judgment he will have to make an application to the court.(N244 Application Notice) If the claim was not issued in the defendant’s local court the case will be transferred to that court and a hearing of the application will be listed.

 

To have a default judgment set aside the defendant will have to satisfy the following legal test found in Part 13 of the CPR:

 

• He has a defence with a real prospect of success; or,

• The judgment should be set aside for some other good reason;

• The application to set aside the judgment was made promptly.

 

Applying Promptly

 

In deciding whether or not the defendant has acted promptly in making their application the relevant date is usually the date on which the defendant found out about the judgment. Judges have differing views on what constitutes a prompt application. Some say that anything over four weeks shows that the defendant has failed to act promptly – others will entertain applications made many months later.

 

The Merits of the Defence

 

The defendant will also have to convince the judge that he has a defence that has a real prospect of succeeding. It is not enough for the defendant to show merely that he has a defence that would be arguable in law. The defendant should support their application with evidence.

 

Setting Aside Default Judgments on Terms

 

In some circumstances the judge may agree to set the judgment aside provided that certain conditions are met. For example, a judge could order the defendant to pay the amount claimed into court. This might be done in the case of a defendant who is pursuing a tenuous defence simply because he cannot afford to pay the debt.

 

The Defendant Says That He Never Received the Claim Form

 

The law on service of court documents states that:

 

• if the court sends the defendant a claim form at his usual or last known address; and,

• it is subsequently returned to the court as undelivered;

 

the claim form has still been validly served and the claimant is entitled to a regular default judgment.

 

Therefore, even if the defendant can persuade the judge that he never received the claim form, the judgment was still regular as a matter of law. However, it may provide an explanation for the defendant’s failure to respond to the claim.

 

The Judge’s Discretion

 

The law on default judgments provides judges with a wide discretion to set judgment aside. Justice demands that a judgment which has been entered with no, or little, regard to the merits of the claim should be set aside if the defendant has a good defence and made his application promptly. However, there is no point setting aside a default judgment if the defendant has no chance of defending the claim. It would be a waste of time and money because, ultimately, the claimant would simply obtain another judgment. The courts should be slow to deprive the claimant of a valid judgment obtained in accordance with the law.

 

Regards

 

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Andy Orch, I need some help to put together a defence and application can you point me in the right direction

The claim and default judgement was made through the northampton bulk centre

 

as usual no details were supplied, such as whether they had the right to pursue, no documentation was supplied to support the claim etc etc

 

I am now 2 months in default of the judgement payment schedule as I only found out last week and i want to avoid further action

 

I spoke to them and over the phone in one conversation they have agreed a full and final of 50% without a lot of trying on my part

 

I urgently need to make a decision whether to settle or fight I am aware if I settle the claim will show for another 6 years on my credit file

 

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If theyve agreed a F&F of 50% of a judgement, then something isnt right. ESPECIALLY when carter is involved.

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Since they knew you were at a new address, but carter decided to issue on an old one on a bad debt at an old address, the set aside should be relatively straight forward. Carter is a very unscrupulous person. He will do whatever it takes to get a judgement, even on an unenforceable debt. he doesnt care as once a defence is filed, he runs off back under the rock he crawled out from. I'm just amazed he has managed to keep his solicitors licence.

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Hi

 

To set a side you complete the N244 application notice and submit your reasons for set a side ..you will have to outline a small synopsis of your intended defence.

 

To make payment arrangements you need to vary the judgment to mthly payment this is done using the N245...complete the I&E and make a proposed monthly payment.

 

If you wish to accept their offer of settlement and are happy to pay the agreed figure you suggest a Consent Order were they set a side the CCJ and then confirm the payment arrangements within the Consent Order.

 

All forms are available in the legal Library.

 

Regards

 

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Andy

the consent order looks a good option,

as it means that I can get on with my life without chasing around the courts for a maybe win at a set side

 

from what youve read so far can you suggest setaside grounds and with your experience do you think it could be successful

 

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They will set a side for you if you agree their terms by way of a Consent Order...you dont need to make application.

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If they dont agree to a consent order setting aside to their terms, how good a chance would I have a getting a full setaside with claim served at incorrect address, nomention of assignment or proof of debt on POC, and only a recon to s78 req from OC, also no reply to dsar

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Well if you tell them its your intention to set a side and would they like to consider a Consent Order...I would imagine they would go with it after offering 50% discount.

If not your chances are as good as any if it was deemed bad service....you would then have start from the beginning ..enter a defence and if you lose you are back to square one...without the 50% deduction.

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  • 5 months later...

Update, set aside hearing won with £400 costs awarded to me

Defence submitted, followed by the same old same old consent order route from BC

Hearing date read for 12 September

Witness statement received this weekend with old application in parts illegible plus a statement of default with no default notice

A letter of assignment with no evidence of it

And a current terms and conditions with (EDIT) one heading addressed to my current address which is a compete fabrication

I need a new amendment to my defence

 

They also state that they won't be attending court. I am livid about this because they know that I will win on default notice alone

I need some defence input if anyone can help

Can I ask for costs, still small claims

Onlyme

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Why do you need a new amendment to your defence and why do you need some defence input...you state you have submitted your defence?

 

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Thread title amended to reflect latest developments.

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What were the Directions after the set aside hearing?

 

Why did you not exchange a witness statement of your own?

 

You're not meant to be defending or rebutting their witness statement, that's what your evidence at trial is for.

 

I am catching up with it a bit

The hearing is an allocation and directions hearing. The purpose of which is to establish the issues and determination of likely issues and length of final trial

 

The set aside hearing judgement set aside the default judgment and ordered a defence to be filed (duly done pretty well asking for documents)

 

Their witness statement now provides the documents listed above

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setaside judgment:

 

1Default judgment is setaside

2Defendant shall file and serve defence by ..... june

3 The clamant shall pay £400 by ...May

 

General form of Judgment:

1 List for allocation and directions on 12th September

2 All parties or legal reps MUST ATTEND

3 Purpose of hearing is to establish dispute and determining likely length of trial

 

Interestingly they are saying they will not be attending in their letter accompanying the witness statement to my original defence

 

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