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    • Hi everyone, I have an update on my case that I’d like to share with you all.  so after submitting 371 pages in my bundle, a witness statement and skeleton argument for my court case due to take place in Manchester on June 21st I got an email from my litigator stating that hmrc have pulled out and the case is now closed!    this is the body of the letter….. This letter, which is copied to the Appellant, pursuant to Rule 17 of the Tribunal Procedure (First-tier Tribunal) (Tax Chamber) Rules 2009, the Respondents gives notice to the Tribunal of their intention to not defend the above appeal.   The Respondents respectfully invite the Tribunal to allow the appeal and close its file. In lieu of the above the Respondents would respectfully ask the Tribunal to vacate the hearing scheduled for Friday 21 June 2024. We would accordingly invite the Tribunal to close its file. Obviously this is extremely good news which hasn’t sunk in that after 3 years of fighting it is over.    I do have a further fight on my hands in that the Group Action I had joined with Independent Tax that had been disbanded in November last year and I chose not to continue with them. They are trying to bill me over 5k for the work they did under that Group Action which is ludicrous bearing in mind the whole point in joining was that it would keep the cost to a minimum as it would be shared between us all. They had asked if I wanted to continue to have them represent me on an individual level which I declined, if I hadn’t, goodness knows what they would have been trying to charge me now. 
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Apologies, I hit a wrong number on my calculator for the number of weeks in a year. Bit of a dumb moment. I've edited my post to fix the error.

 

Of course the exact figure may vary throughout the year based on changes to the 12-week moving average. My calculation assumes you get paid the same each week.

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No problem steampowered I thought I was close to an answer. So on assumption that the figures are correct 2315.38 / 28 = 82.69 per day

 

So claiming for 5 days holiday pay would give me 5 x 82.69 = 413.45 so my question remains How the hell can he pay me for 5 days totalling £350 (not precise but makes for easy reading)

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I agree with your calculation, assuming you are on a 5-day working week. Note that the legal right is expressed in terms of weeks not in terms of days - see Regulation 16 (1) of the Working Time Regulations (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1998/1833/regulation/16/made).

 

You said in your opening post that "company accountant takes our average wage for the week and divides by 7 to get a daily rate". This is wrong since he would need to divide the weekly wage by 5 not 7, for a 5-day working week. However I'm not sure this error would explain the underpayment since it would result in you getting paid £300 not £350. When you refer to £350 I also assume this is pre-tax.

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Therein lies a difference. I work a 6 day week but I still don't see how this affects it as when I originally got my holiday pay I thought he was diving my weekly wage into weeks of 6 days but even then he would be underpaying the holiday by the end of the year. I know I am not entitled to any extra holiday as I work 6 days a week which I am fine with. Yes the £350 is pre-tax.

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You can't have both a zero hours contract and be subjected to a detriment (by reducing holiday entitlement/pay) on the grounds that you work a 6 day week.

 

So, which is it?

What does your contract say about your working hours/days?

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That might explain it. If a week's pay of 415 is divided into 6 days, and then multiplied by 5, you end up with 350.

 

The statutory right is to 5.6 weeks paid holiday. If you need to take 6 days of leave to get a week off, you should be getting 33.5 days holiday not 28. As per the link I posted, I think you should be getting a week's pay (calculated on the basis of a 12-week average) for a week's leave.

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For those that ever remember reading this thread. This has at last been resolved. I waited until the end of the tax year and made an appointment with the accountant. Over the course of the year I accrued £2300 in holiday pay and had only been paid £1700. I showed my evidence to him and he accepted he hadmade a mistake and gave me some made up excuse. However I have now received all my outstanding holiday pay.

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Excellent news :)

 

A dfference of £600.00 ! I wouldnt want that accountant doing my books ?

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