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    • Just a couple paragraphs their WS that it might be useful to refer to specifically in the OP's WS... Para 6 A contract was formed with "the driver" of the vehicle. Para 8 "The driver" accepted the contract. (The "driver" is not named, or identified anywhere in the WS). Para 7 WHY would there ever be a "no stopping" restriction in a car park? (In Para 10, they specify that it is a "car park"). Para 11 "The Defendant" became liable." Again, they have not shown that the Defendant was "the driver", simply the keeper. Para 20 "It is a matter of agreement"? Not really sure what they're trying to say here...
    • Thank you for relying so quickly! That is what I had concluded was the reality of the situation.. I'm still waiting for the call within my time slot.. I will try to fill this thread with more info, find original letters and show the docs of the pack I was sent, a pack with no real covering letter to show what it was in response to or from whom..
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A bailiff called today but didn't explain who he was properly so hubby let him in, the man then said who he was and hubby quickly escorted him back out the front door. Hubby told him he wasn't going to be coming in and doors and windows would be locked. The man wrote a few things down and left. Is this now seen as allowing him in and I wonder if what he wrote down was a list of things he had seen. He also came at 6.30am I didn't think they were allowed to come that early. Can anyone help please

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Hi selinajayne,

 

As you say, this is a big mistake. The fact that you allowed him in once means he can re-enter.

 

There are others on the forum with more knowledge than I have who will come to help, but

 

1. Who is he collecting for?

 

2. How much is the debt?

 

3. Have you got a car parked anywhere nearby? If so, move it immediately.

 

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The bailiff should only be there with a Court Order. Did he leave you with a copy of the documentation? If so, call the Court and see what they say. Do that now as Courts close at 4 or 4.30.

 

If your husband didn't know about this and feels it was a fine he should not have received you can apply to have it set aside, but the main thing is to get the bailiff called off.

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Sadly, it would seem that the bailiff gained "peaceful entry" .

 

If this debt is in relation to one that your husband did not know about then he can file a Statutory Declaration with the court.

 

If you can provide a few more details this would be of help.

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If he was removed from the premises BEFORE he began a levy, then he would not have peaceful entry, he would need to have handed a list of goods on a Form 7 to your husband, or put ut through the letterbox at the time, however if it is a criminal fine, they may claim right of forced entry under the DCVA. Others will know more

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Get to the court first thing in the morning and get a stat dec sorted out.

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Might be worth sending detals to BBC watchdog, they are on the case of DVLA who have form for fraudulent and baseless prosecutions, it is up to them to prove you didn't send it, not you to prove you had, a statutory declaration that you had posted the V5 on whatever date, and s you can consider First class post as sufficient proof of delivery, there is NO legal compulsion as DVLA have tried in court and been spanked for to claim you MUST contact them after a month if you have heard nothing from them. A stat dec as to not getting the summons would allow you to challenge. DVLA have lost in this scenario, andWatchdog have caught them out on just this very thing..

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DVLA go on and on trying to prosecute everyone and it's all a money making exercise. They took me to court over not paying my car tax which was delayed in the post due to a postal strike. It was a newly bought car and being a good girl I paid the tax from the beginning of the previous month even though there were only four days to go. I even sent them copies of the actual tax disc showing I had paid for the full six months but that didn't stop them. It was only when I got to Court and showed their lawyer that I had paid that he stopped it before we went into Court. Even he said he'd couldn't understand why they had done it.

 

You really must fight them on this, so do get the Statutory Declaration done first thing tomorrow.

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They (DVLA) also have form for going to court and gaining the criminal version of a default judgement by "neglecting or forgetting" to send out a summons so the first you know is when the Marstons, collectica Excel or other knuckledragger tries to kick the door in on the hapless, unbeknownst to them debtor.

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Apologies if this is slightly off topic, but it may help others on this thread at some time:

 

Did you know there is now no 'period of grace' for car tax renewal? There used to be 14 days, and then it was reduced to five days, but now you only get five days grace if you have renewed online by the last day of the previous month. If you renew after that they can fine you even if you have paid online and the tax disc is in the post. :mad2: So if, for example, you are away from home on the last day of the month and don't renew online until, say, the 2nd of the following month you are supposed to take your car off the road until the tax disc arrives.

 

You can of course challenge this - there is a nice House of Lords' Authority about this kind of thing - but who needs the hassle?

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It says on the log book if you don't get an acknowledgement letter within x amount of weeks, contact them because he didn't it means he's at fault

No he isn't there is NO LEGAL COMPULSION to contact DVLA after you send something in a judge found that you can assume delivery after 3 days or so by first class post BBC Watchdog are on the case as per below

 

see :http://whatconsumer.co.uk/forum/consumer-rights-television-programmes/10610-bbc-watchdog-dvla-dock.html

 

"Duncan Peck is a motorcyclist who took on the DVLA - after applying to take his vehicle off the road. He posted his SORN application but then six months later he received a penalty for £80. The DVLA insisted they hadn't received Duncan's application and told him it was his responsibility to contact them when he didn't receive acknowledgement of receipt. Duncan refused to back down and refused to pay the fine, so the DVLA took him to court. When the case was heard in March, the judge found in Duncan's favour saying the DVLA has no statutory power requiring anyone to contact them should they not receive an acknowledgment letter."

 

DVLA are woefully unfit for purpose, and have lost in court or withdrawn the case on similar facts to OP where they claimed non reciept of V5 for change SORN or whatever.

 

If Op had no summons then Stat Dec and a defence claiming docs posted should kill the DVLA and their scrote bailiffs pig.

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If he goes to court does he say the dvla have no legal standing on it

He tells them that it was posted First class on Xth of whatever 20ish, and assumes that they had it via normal post 3 days later, and that there is no compulsion to contact DVLA to check anyhing, quoting the cases of Duncan Peck and James Collins who were prosecuted by DVLA (which had lost the documents) and appeals found in the favour of the defendants

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?380711-Collectica-and-DVLA-Fine

 

see also: http://www.rac.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?10714-DVLA-SORN-notification-system-is-a-shambles-legally-unenforceable-and-administ

 

http://www.bitterwallet.com/dvla-act-unlawfully-whilst-losing-your-letters-and-blaming-you-for-it/29151

 

I would suggest OP googles DVLA and unlawful fines

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