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    • I see, shame, I think if a claim is 'someone was served' then proof of that should be mandatory. Appreciate your input into the WS whenever you get chance, thanks in advance
    • Paper trail off the original creditor often confirms the default and issue of a notice...not having or being able to disclose the actual copy or being able to produce a copy less so. Creditors are not compelled to keep copies of the actual default notice so you will in most cases get a reconstituted version but must contain accurate figures/dates/format.     .    
    • Including Default Notice Andy? Ok, I think this is the best I can do.. it all makes sense with references to their WS. They have included exhibits that dates don't match the WS about them, small but still.. if you're going to reference letters giving dates, then the exhibits should be correct, no? I know I redacted them too much, but one of the dates differs to the WS by a few months. IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim. 1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 24/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • AMEX and TSB the 2 Creditors who you need to worry about the least, ever!  Just stop paying them and forget about it, ignore all their threat o gram letters.  Only if, and with these 2 it's a massive if, you end up with a claim form you need to respond, and there will be plenty of help here.
    • No, nothing from Barclays. Turns out i have 2 accounts on here, and i posted originally on the other one. Sorry about that.  
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  • 3 years later...

Sorry for re opening an old thread but thought it would be easier than starting a new one to explain whats already happened.

 

 

I sent this company a SAR, and have never heard anything back and when i did a company check they were dissolved in 2014.,

 

 

however a couple of weeks ago i received a letter from a GB finance and investment ltd claiming they have been instructed to collect the debt. This happened on the 16h of Jan 2017, the day the owner died.

 

 

This GB finance and investment ltd is owned by his son, and says he can legally collect the debt.

Up until this point i've never heard of them, and i've asked for proof of ownership of the debt which is just typed on a piece of paper dated 16.01.17. He is now threatening to take me to court.

 

I emailed him and said thats not proof of ownership as i could of typed that myself

but he says if i want to sort it out and see oroginal contracts then i need to go down and see him face to face, in his mobilty shop.

 

I have no issue in paying this debt so long as it is paying off this debt and isnt some kind of con.

I'm at a loss from where to go from here.

Can anyone help please?

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IMHO ignore let him goto court.

the judge would eat him for breakfast

theres not signed agreement with him nor his 'company'

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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what this lot..

 

 

http://fca-consumer-credit-interim.force.com/CS_RegisterSearchPageNew?accId=636022

 

 

says their licence has lapsed

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ignore as dx advised

 

He hasn't got a hope

In the meantime send a full report

on his actions to the FCA

with copies of his letters and emails

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Firm name: GB Finance And Investment Limited

Interim Permissions reference number: 636022

 

Permission

Description

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Limitation Against Permission

Permission End Date

Consumer credit business Entering into a regulated credit agreement as lender; and exercising, or having the right to exercise, the lender's rights and duties under a regulated credit agreement. Inactive 31/03/2015

 

 

Consumer hire business Entering into a regulated consumer hire agreement as owner; and exercising, or having the right to exercise, the owner's rights and duties under a regulated consumer hire agreement. Inactive 31/03/2015

 

 

Credit brokerage Credit broking

Or

Credit broking limited to credit intermediation Inactive 31/03/2015

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BANG..

 

 

wonder how many more of his fathers old customers he is fleecing too.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Good afternoon,

 

ive ignored all correspondence

 

today i get a county claim form which i rang up and checked the legitimecy of.

 

It states that they are claiming for money borrowed from R&J auto finance fca registeration number 716425.

 

States they were instructed on the day his dad dies to collect the debt.

The fca number comes back to his and his mothers name, trading as R&J auto finance as of 27.02.17.

 

hes asked me for 3 different amounts.

 

To be quite honest i dont know where i go from here,

i rang citizens advice but they cant help on the phone

 

i need to make an appointment to go and see them which is going to be difficult since i work all the hours god sends

 

I have never denied owing someone the money,

i stupidly borrowed it,

i begrudge paying back an amount that seems to be plucked out of the air,

just to line somoene elses pocket.

 

It clearly isnt going to the company that it was owed to so i dont know what to do.

 

I asked him for a copy of all the contracts and he has only sent me one dated april 2014.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Name of the Claimant ? GB investment

 

Date of issue – 21.04.2017

 

What is the claim for –

 

 

Name & name borrowed money from R&J auto finance (fca registration number 716425)

there total outstanding is £8,800.00.

The loan is now significantly in arrears and GB finance and investment limited were appointed on the 16th January 2016 by R&J auto finance to collect the loan.

 

GBFI have tried to work with name and name on this matter and GBFI have indicated a willingness to agree a structured payment plan but name and name have refused to cooperate.

 

Given the fact that name and name refuse to cooperate with GBFI on this matter then there is no alternative but to seek recourse via the courts.

 

What is the value of the claim? £9,200

 

Is the claim for a current account (Overdraft) or credit/loan account or mobile phone account? Loan account

 

When did you enter into the original agreement before or after 2007? After 2007, 2014 was the date on the last agreement.

 

Has the claim been issued by the original creditor

or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. By his son through a different company.

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Only on the same day he sent me a letter asking for the money.

 

Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? No.

 

Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Default sums” – at least once a year ? No.

 

Why did you cease payments? Late 2014

What was the date of your last payment?

Not exactly sure because it was paid cash.

Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? Yes.

Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes, i sent him a SAR and never got the paperwork and i found out he had dissolved the company.

Sorry forgot to mention in regards to a default notice, i didnt get anything on paper, but he did text saying payment is due on a weekly basis for a while.

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need the EXACT text in the particulars of claim box please

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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The POC should be interesting

 

No need for worry or panic

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twas what I was thinking.........

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Name & name borrowed money from R&J auto finance (fca registration number 716425) there total outstanding is £8,800.00. The loan is now significantly in arrears and GB finance and investment limited were appointed on the 16th January 2016 by R&J auto finance to collect the loan.

 

GBFI have tried to work with name and name on this matter and GBFI have indicated a willingness to agree a structured payment plan but name and name have refused to cooperate.

 

Given the fact that name and name refuse to cooperate with GBFI on this matter then there is no alternative but to seek recourse via the courts.

 

 

I should also add ive just noticed the court papers say he was instructed in 2016 but the initial correspondence states 2017.

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still have to have a non existent notice of assignment!!

 

 

no hope mate..he's dead!!

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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does the poc really say there when it should be their? oh dear illiterate as well. as stupid.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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funny how the Consumer credit act is not mentioned too

 

 

anyway..

 

 

pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.

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register as an individual

note the long gateway number given

then log in

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select respond to a claim and select the AOS box.

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then using the details required from the claimform

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defend all

leave jurisdiction unticked.

click thru to the end

confirm and exit MCOL.

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get a CCA Request running to the claimant

leave the £1PO blank and uncrossed

.

get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors

.

don't sign anything

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dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Will do, sorry for sounding daft but whats a cpr31:14 request?

I'm not sure who his solicitor is as its not written anywhere?

 

Yes, he did put there. He also spelt my husbands name with a ph, and im a daniel.

 

Thanks,

Dan.

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