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    • Banks have different limits above which they require Probate. So it may be Probate is not needed, although as he died with no Will that could complicate things. Is all the £28k with Virgin Money? Your wife should contact all banks who hold his money with the death certificate and ask them what they need to release the funds to her. Most banks have a central "bereavement department". Check their websites. Use that department rather than general call centre or bank branch. Your wife may also have to provide evidence that she is his daughter. When his wife died it sounds like they had a joint bank account so that's why her money just went across to him. But as it isn't a joint account now transfer to your wife won't be quite that simple.  
    • That explains it then. MET's fantasy is that it's a pay car park.  You're only let off paying if you are a Starbucks customer which you can't be when Starbucks is closed.  'Cos otherwise lots of people would abuse the car park facilities on the far edge of the Stansted Airport area in the middle of nowhere to ... admire the bushes?  Look at the cloudy sky? The important thing is that we have around 140 cases for this site, and MET have only tried court seven times.  Even then, they had no intention of getting as far as a hearing, they were attempting to intimidate the motorists into paying, when the Caggers defended the cases MET discontinued.
    • She's an only child and he as a brother and sister. He has no will and we have done a check on this to find out if he had left one and nothing has come up. He has savings of around 28k His sister and brother are well off so 28k is nothing to them and aren't interested in his money. This just leaves my wife/his daughter. Would this still need to go to probate there is no estate e.g house or business to sell and the amount left in his bank is just small? When his wife died they just closed her bank account and moved her money across to his account and we just assumed that once my wife has handed in the death certificate and shown evidence of who she is the same would apply to her? We don't know yet the council have only just written to us today with a guide of what to do next.  
    • Did your FiL leave a Will and if so who is the Executor? Strictly speaking banks could refuse to take instructions until Probate is granted but In practice I would expect the bank to take instructions to cancel the DD if the Executor presents the death certificate and a certified copy of the Will
    • Hi   Sorry I probably wasn't clear enough. He had lived in the flat until December 2022 with Dementia by this time it was unsafe for him to have capacity to live on his own and he had to move into a nursing home. We had left it too late to apply for power of attorney so approached a solicitor in March last year for Deputyship. We were still in the process of dealing with it by May 2024. He passed away a few weeks ago and the solicitor was contacted to halt the application and we will just pay the fees of what work he has done up until now. My wife was the named person on her dads bank account but we didn't have the ability to alter any direct debits hence the reasons for applying for Deputyship as we were having problems trying to stop some payments coming out of his account Eon being another difficult company. We kept his flat on from December 2022 - August 2023. it was at this point I contacted Sancutary housing to inform them he was no longer living in the flat, it had been cleared out and was ready for a new tenant and that he had Dementia and had moved into a nursing home December 2022 and explained the reasons why we kept it on. As the named person to speak on his behalf I asked them what proof they needed in order to give notice on the flat e.g proof of dementia and proof that he was living in a nursing home and anything else they wanted. The lady in the upstairs flat and some of the other residence in the street had asked about him and we had told them he had moved into a nursing home. The lady in the upstairs flat wanted his flat for medical reasons so asked us once we had given notice could be let her know and she'll ask them if she can have it. We explained the difficulties and it was left at that but I did tell her I would let her know once notice was given. I contacted the company by email a number of times and also telephone conversations and nobody followed it up and it wasn't till the end of February this year that the housing manager for the area wrote to our home address to ask about him that he had been to the flat a couple of times and nobody answered and he had asked some of the residence in the street and they hadn't seen him for sometime. There was an email address on the letter so I contacted him and copied in the last 2 emails I sent Sanctuary regarding me wanting to give notice on the flat for at least 9 months explaining that it went ignored as well as telephone calls. I also stated I wanted to have his rent payments returned from the date I wanted to give notice which was from August 2023 as the bank wouldn't let us stop the DD without POT or deputyship explaining we were in the process of Deputyship. He gave some excuse about not having POT to cancel on his behalf and spoke to someone in HR and said he would contact the nursing home to confirm he was there with Dementia and if it all checks out we can give notice on the flat which came to an end on the 22 March 2024. There was not mention of back payments for the rent already paid or the fact I had asked to give notice in August 2023. Despite someone living in the flat from 1st April they continue to take DD payments for the flat and have taken another 2 payments of £501. another concerning thing despite Eon not allowing us to cancel the DD to his account the lady upstairs informed Eon that she was moving into the flat February 2024 and Eon refunding the account to his bank and said in an email sorry you are leaving us and canceled his account. Something they wouldn't let us do but a stranger. She also changed her bank account to his address despite the fact notice hadn't been given on the flat yet. So we need to find out how much information Sanctuary actually had for her to tell her power company she was moving into the flat in February despite the housing manager only just getting in contact to find out where he was. So a complaint is going into Eon and Sanctuary and we are going to take advice and ask the bank to charge back the rent. My wife hasn't taken the death certificate to the bank yet to inform them of his passing.  
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I have just emailed rds,stating that im not refusing to pay,but I am dealing with council.and that im lodging a formal complaint about them putting van fee and levy fee on same day,especially that no levy has been made and I havent signed anything,ever,from rds.ive also emailed council,informing them of this and,of how to pay this debt.....hopefully il hear something b4 bailiff comes back!!

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The council will only reply and tell you to 'deal with the bailiffs' ..you have to take the bull by the horns and work out what you can reasonably afford to pay on a weekly/fortnightly/monthly basis then make that payment on exactly the same day/date, this will build up a history to show you are not a 'won't pay' and in fact making effort to pay. Please be careful when you make those payments..we have had many a cagger who has paid religiously their set sum every week, then later found they had been paying to the wrong reference number with all payments going to the current CT and the debt for the outstanding CT was still owed???

 

Forget asking the council for any help and start telling them this is the way you will be paying, there is little to nothing they can do once you start paying other than accept your payments.

 

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I no longer have a ct bill for 2010 so hiw will I get ref no:?

 

Call the benefits and revenues department and request it. It should also be on the letters that the council have sent in way as reminders, it could well be on any bailiff letters.

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Hi all.just a quick update... As I wroteto complain to the council and rds about the.confusion over fees added to the account I have today recieved a letter from rds statin 'there was possible issues with the way my account was handles by the council,and the account has now been handed back to them'.....PHEW!!!

BUT...there is still some confusion on my partt as in this letter it states 'our bailiff levied on items inside the property and left a copy of the notice of distress with you'

He never left any such thing.no paperworj at all was left with us!!! What a lie.it also says he levied on a veichile outside the property,and we dont even have a car!!! Do I dispute this with rds?? Or do I just keep schtum and wait for council to get intouch? Surley as the bailiff has lied about leaving paperwork something should be done? Any help plz

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if he never got in to the house

he cant levy on stuff inside

 

he cant levy on vehicles not yours

 

so eitherway cannot charge those fees NOR van fees

 

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Hi all.just a quick update... As I wroteto complain to the council and rds about the.confusion over fees added to the account I have today recieved a letter from rds statin 'there was possible issues with the way my account was handles by the council,and the account has now been handed back to them'.....PHEW!!!

BUT...there is still some confusion on my partt as in this letter it states 'our bailiff levied on items inside the property and left a copy of the notice of distress with you' send dossers the Acme letter putting them on strict proof of everything

He never left any such thing.no paperworj at all was left with us!!! What a lie.it also says he levied on a veichile outside the property, again ask dossers for the details of the vehicle, as strangely you don't own one and we dont even have a car!!! Do I dispute this with rds?? Or do I just keep schtum and wait for council to get intouch? Surley as the bailiff has lied about leaving paperwork something should be done? Any help plz

 

Initiate a second Stage Formal Complaint, if you have sent an initial one in, stating that their agent dossendales has not provided any notice of seizure nor details of a vehicle they claim to have levied, being as you don't own a car.:

 

Send them the Acme letter below asking for details of what they levied, as you didn't have any notice of seizure put them on strict proof again, and you could mention that any levy on a car is invalid as you don't own one.

"From:

My Name

My Address

 

To:

Acme bailifflink3.gif Co

Bailiff House

 

Ref: Account No: 123456

 

Dear Sir

 

With reference to the above account, Can you please provide me with a breakdown of the charges.

 

This includes:

a - the time & date of any Bailiff action that incurred a Fee.

b - the reason for the fee.

c - the name(s) of the Bailiff(s) that attended on each occasion a Fee was charged.

d - the name(s) of the Court(s) the Bailiff(s) was/were certificatedlink3.gif at.

e - the date of the Certification.

f - a copy of notification of seizure of any goods, chattels or vehicle

 

This is not a Subject access requestlink3.gif under the Data Protection Act S7 1998 so does not incur a fee of £10. You are obliged to provide this information.

 

I require this information within 14 days.

 

Yours faithfully

 

Ripped off customer"

 

Even if they give you a list it will probably be faulty if it is a generic list, and is not an accurate listing of your specific goods. At which point all and any levy is down the toilet along with the associated fees.

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If debt has been handed back without charges added, then I wouldnt complain, they obviously knew that some thing was wrong. They wont admit it though unless you make a song and dance about it.

 

If charges are added or bailiff tries and gets his charges from you, I would be inclined to start making some noise about it.

 

This is just my opinion though.

 

You could wait until the dust settles and then enquire about it. See what they have to say.

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As' they have handed the debt back to the council should I not jist stay quiet?

 

You could, but if the council still insist the fees are payable, it may be better to have a Formal note of what they are charging in writing so their claims can be demolished later, Did he list anything at the time you let him in? You need a copy of whatever goods he has listed at the least, he must by law leave one with you AT THE TIME of any levy.

It's your call, but if they insist the fees are payable on top even though the debt is back in house, it may be worth rattling rossers cage to get the unlawful elements removed,

We could do with some help from you.

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