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    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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NATWEST01&02 won over 4k

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-successes/31683-muggins73-natwest.html

 

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19-SEPT-07 APPLICATION TO HAVE STAY LIFTED

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Hi, I just won my case :) Details are at my thread:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-bank/56339-richard-natwest-2.html

 

I'm afraid I don't know how to PM a mod, so please could somebody alter it and move it for me?

 

Many thanks indeed and thanks so much for all the help on here from everybody :)

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My partner has just had a claim with Natwest. He had to go as far as putting in small claim and after only 6 weeks he's had a letter offer frm Natwest. He is owed £3,900 ish and they're offering £550 less than that. Should be accept it or should he push for the remaining money?:confused:

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Hi

 

Just thought i would post here as I have had numerous charges refunded by NW since my first claim against them last August, in fact I have had refunds on a weekly basis!!! Now I just send a letter saying...Please refund x amount...and they do! My last refund was yesterday for £114, I only sent my 4 worded letter on Tuesday!!!

 

So take heart all you NW people out there - maybe they are just sick of me and think its easier to pay up than argue anymore.....wish Barlcays would do the same!!!!!

 

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Hi

 

Another success

 

Natwesttookmymoney - v - NAtWest. Please move and rename WON! WITH CONTRACTUAL INTEREST.

 

thanks

 

W

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If you like my post, click the scales!!

 

Nov 1 2006 Preliminary letter

21 Feb 2007 - cheque arrived for charges+DEBIT interest +Statutory Interest! Hurray!

Read all about it: natwesttookmymoney - v- NatWest

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What can you claim? Vampiress has a good idea:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/69877-what-can-you-claim.html

Anything I say is just a suggestion. I'm a bigmouth, not a lawyer!

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Hi

 

Another success

 

Natwesttookmymoney - v - NAtWest. Please move and rename WON! WITH CONTRACTUAL INTEREST.

 

thanks

 

W

 

Got avery nice ring to it Westy......don't you think??

IF MY COMMENTS HAVE HELPED PLEASE CLICK MY SCALES

 

Don't be like the banks - give a little back

 

 

:D NAT WEST - WON - £4282.36:D

 

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I do indeed!

 

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Nov 1 2006 Preliminary letter

21 Feb 2007 - cheque arrived for charges+DEBIT interest +Statutory Interest! Hurray!

Read all about it: natwesttookmymoney - v- NatWest

DONATE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN TO KEEP THE SITE GOING.

 

What can you claim? Vampiress has a good idea:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/69877-what-can-you-claim.html

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Hi ive been offered all but £700 as FULL & FINAL settlement.I'm more than happy with the amount but i'm need clarification/reassurance of the ramifications bit of the full nad final bit, or as i have such a large claim would it be ok? Total claim £10.077 offered £9,293

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Up to you Sherrattsvile.

Probably not the answer you wanted but that is the case!

'Full and final' means exactly what it says on the tin - you are agreeing not to continue with this claim in any way, shape or form. It is settled.

That doesn't mean you can't claim for anything not covered by this claim - any new or especially old charges, for instance - but it does mean that you can't go back at a later date, seeking to reclaim the £700 you have given up.

 

What does the offer represent, anyway? How was your claim made up?

And how far were you down the process?

Westy

 

 

 

If you like my post, click the scales!!

 

Nov 1 2006 Preliminary letter

21 Feb 2007 - cheque arrived for charges+DEBIT interest +Statutory Interest! Hurray!

Read all about it: natwesttookmymoney - v- NatWest

DONATE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN TO KEEP THE SITE GOING.

 

What can you claim? Vampiress has a good idea:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/69877-what-can-you-claim.html

Anything I say is just a suggestion. I'm a bigmouth, not a lawyer!

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Hi ive been offered all but £700 as FULL & FINAL settlement.I'm more than happy with the amount but i'm need clarification/reassurance of the ramifications bit of the full nad final bit, or as i have such a large claim would it be ok? Total claim £10.077 offered £9,293

 

Hi

 

if you are happy with that amount then you can accept it but if you hold out they WILL pay the whole amount but it will take longer.

 

I have had 3 claims so far, one pending but I settled on slightly less for 2 of them as i was fed up with all the waiting around.

 

The FULL AND FINAL settlement bit means if you accept what they offer you CANNOT ask for the outstanding amount of £700 - you agree to the offer they have given you.

 

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"but if you hold out they WILL pay the whole amount but it will take longer."

 

I haven't taken a position on that because we don't know exactly what Sherratt's claimed.

 

See my sig!

Westy

 

 

 

If you like my post, click the scales!!

 

Nov 1 2006 Preliminary letter

21 Feb 2007 - cheque arrived for charges+DEBIT interest +Statutory Interest! Hurray!

Read all about it: natwesttookmymoney - v- NatWest

DONATE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN TO KEEP THE SITE GOING.

 

What can you claim? Vampiress has a good idea:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/69877-what-can-you-claim.html

Anything I say is just a suggestion. I'm a bigmouth, not a lawyer!

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Thanks westy

we were about to submit the N1 form. the £10,077 was charges only no interest ( that was approx £750, not finished working all that put yet)so we are aprox£1400 down. However as we hadn't submitted the N1 i feel this is quite a break through for natwest.I had some thought that a full & final offer meant that we couldnt pursue further claims as ive already notched up about £250 in charges since sept 2006.

youv'e made it all cristal clear thank you. I now know what i'm going to do

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You're welcome. Anything else I can help with, let me know.

 

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(PS - My siggie has changed a bit in light of discussions elsewhere, which need not detain us here!)

Westy

 

 

 

If you like my post, click the scales!!

 

Nov 1 2006 Preliminary letter

21 Feb 2007 - cheque arrived for charges+DEBIT interest +Statutory Interest! Hurray!

Read all about it: natwesttookmymoney - v- NatWest

DONATE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN TO KEEP THE SITE GOING.

 

What can you claim? Vampiress has a good idea:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/69877-what-can-you-claim.html

Anything I say is just a suggestion. I'm a bigmouth, not a lawyer!

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Well done, Cooxie!!

 

Westy

Westy

 

 

 

If you like my post, click the scales!!

 

Nov 1 2006 Preliminary letter

21 Feb 2007 - cheque arrived for charges+DEBIT interest +Statutory Interest! Hurray!

Read all about it: natwesttookmymoney - v- NatWest

DONATE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN TO KEEP THE SITE GOING.

 

What can you claim? Vampiress has a good idea:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/69877-what-can-you-claim.html

Anything I say is just a suggestion. I'm a bigmouth, not a lawyer!

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I never thought in a million years I'd be writing my first post saying that Natwest had just paid up - but today, unbelievably they have!!

 

I'd followed the advice on Martins site to the latter, used his templates, setup an alternative bank etc. I'd registered with MCOL and was all set to submit my claim on Monday.

 

They sent me a letter today, Saturday, saying they they will settle my claim in full - £2,198 in total.

 

I'd like to thank the contributors to this site and Martins site for their concise and thorough advice and would encourage anyone thinking of claiming to go for it - especially with a possible change looming in April.

 

Cheers.

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Hi,

 

Please move the thread:

Lee Parkinson v. Natwest

to the successes section and change to ** WON **

 

Thanks for a great site and good luck to everyone still claiming.:)

 

 

Lee.

26/04/06 - Sent Data Protection Act Request

01/06/06 - Cheque cashed

24/07/06 - No response so sent further Data Protection Act letter

 

12/08/06 - No response so sent further Data Protection Act letter before action

30/08/06 - Filed a complaint with the information commissioner

08/09/06 - Received statements from NatWest

09/09/06 - Sent Preliminary letter, requesting £1007

26/09/06 - Sent LBA

09/11/06 - Issued claim with Money Claim Online

22/11/06 - Received acknowledgement of service with intent to defend claim

14/12/06 - Received defence

16/12/06 - Offered settlement of £700

17/12/06 - Sent letter declining settlement

06/01/06 - Received hearing date of 13th March

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