Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Alan Bates is in the Guardian today. Our Post Office victory is being twisted by those who don’t want to see its like again | Alan Bates | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Litigation funders didn’t ‘exploit’ subpostmasters, they helped us. Those who attack them have corporate interests at heart, says former subpostmaster...  
    • Appreciate your response BankFodder. I am aware that the Consumer Rights Act does not apply in my case as I operate a business and, instead, should rely on the Supply of Goods and Services Act and Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977. I was a little unsure as, when I read the judgement of Hashim Farooq v EVRi Parcelnet, July 2023 I presumed that,  as Farooq had supplied laptops through Amazon,  the Consumer Rights Act would not apply but the judge refers to it in Section 22 as to why the claimant should be given judgment. Have I read this correctly? The reason for not offering full reimbursement was because I did not take out insurance for the full value.  In regards to correspondence from my customer,  I have emails from her in my timeline stating that she was waiting all week and that no one attempted delivery.  I have no doubt that she will be willing to corroborate the events with a written statement.
    • When you post information here you will have to post it in single file multipage PDF format. Follow the upload link. However, it would be more helpful if you could simply answer the questions that we have put to you and we can deal with paperwork afterwards if we think we need it.  
    • I was trying to post all the paperwork that I have, namely facebook ad, messages between the seller and my son etc . But I'm getting the message that the files are to large. 
    • First of all please can you tell us the name of the seller, something about the van – age/year, mileage, price paid. How far away is the seller from where your son lives? Who do you take it to for this inspection? Are they prepared to give you a written list of the things that they found? This is very important and you may well have to get an independent inspection from somebody such as the AA. This will cost you some kind of feedback we expect that we will be able to help you get it back. I would say that if you have to bring a court claim – which is likely – then your chances of success are better than 95% but the difficulty might be enforcing the judgement against the seller. We will have to no more in order to give you better advice. Does it have an MOT? What is the date of it and who gave it the MOT? I suggest that you start taking pictures of all of the defects that you can find.   Also I am going to say that I believe that you came over from Facebook where you were already informed that we would need at least all of the information which I have requested above. It will save a lot of time and effort for everybody if you can simply come up with the things that we ask without too much delay
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Council Tax & HB over payment Billing Issue


ice22
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 4624 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Hello all.

 

I am new to this forum but have used advise on here for other issues.

 

I have 1 issue that I would like further advise on please.

 

Ok heres the backround info:

 

I rented a flat for a year and a half with a friend of mine and I paid him my share of the Council Tax. He then decided not to pay any Council Tax including my half.

I moved out and my friend continued to live at that address. I was unaware that he had not paid any Council Tax and shortly after moving out I get slapped with a liability order of the 1st years Council Tax.

 

I know that I am jointly liable and will have to pay.

 

The Council were chasing me for the 2nd Years Council Tax but no liability order has been issued for year 2. I challanged the bill as I only lived there for the 1st half of the 2nd year and sent my new tenancy agreement to proove it. The Council then write to me to say that they will amend my liabilty to the correct dates and send me an amended bill.

 

 

ISSUE:

 

I have recieved the new amended bill but there is an amount for £282.06 for a period when I lived there, extending to a period when It was confirmed I didn't live there. (hope that makes sense).

What concerns me is that the item is listed as "Benifit Overpayment". I have never asked for benifits in my life and I can only assume that this is my ex-friends doing.

 

Also the bill has been addressed to me and my friend and sent to MY address. This concerns me as he's gone off the radar and I know he will not pay anything towards his part of the Council Tax. I obviously don't want the Council chasing him at my address when he doesn't live here.

 

I have written to the Council about the above issues but they have just replied stating that I am jointly liable for the 1 and 1/2 year period and if I wish to discuss Housing Benifits then call some number.

 

Sorry for the long post but where can I go from here?

 

Thanks!

Link to post
Share on other sites

you and your friend were jointly and severally liable for the council tax

 

this means that the council can recover the debt from either of you

 

if your friend has failed to make any payments, then the council can legally seek the full payment from you (i have known one or two councils who were willing to split the debt 50/50 but they are not obliged to)

 

you may be able to try making a claim against your friend if you can find him

 

not sure how old you both are, but if you and your friend are young(ish) - i would suggest trying to guilt his parents into stumping up for their wayward soon

If you have found my post useful, please click on the star at the bottom of my post and add some reputation points.

Link to post
Share on other sites

you may however be able to argue against the recovery of the benefit overpayment from you

 

am sure i have seen caselaw once on the issue - i will try to look it out for you

If you have found my post useful, please click on the star at the bottom of my post and add some reputation points.

Link to post
Share on other sites

you may however be able to argue against the recovery of the benefit overpayment from you

Council Tax Benefit is recovered by withdrawing the benefit directly from the Council Tax account - the amount then recovered is purely council tax which is recoverable from either, there is no case law against this.

 

The only argument against this would be to argue that the council tax benefit should not have been re-claimed in the first place but this would have to be done by the flatmate.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Council Tax Benefit is recovered by withdrawing the benefit directly from the Council Tax account - the amount then recovered is purely council tax which is recoverable from either, there is no case law against this

 

The only argument against this would be to argue that the council tax benefit should not have been re-claimed in the first place but this would have to be done by the flatmate

 

On the bill they have sent me the benifit overpaymet period extends to a time when it has been confirmed I didn't live there. Can I get them to amend this period and re-calculate the bill?

Link to post
Share on other sites

hi all.

 

Sorry for the long post but I have an issue that im hoping you helpful people at CAG can advise me on.

 

I rented a flat for a year and a half with a friend of mine and I paid him my share of the Council Tax.

He decided not to pay any Council Tax including my half.

 

I moved out and my friend continued to live at the address and was unaware the Council Tax had not been paid.

 

Shortly after moving out I get slapped with a liabilty order for the 1st years Council Tax.

Lesson learned and I know that I am jointly liable and will have to pay.

 

Council then chase me for the 2nd years Council Tax which no liabilty order has been issued yet.

 

I dispute the bill as I only lived there for 1/2 of the second year and send my new tenancy to prove it.

 

Council write back saying they will amend liabilty dates and send a amended bill.

 

THE ISSUE:

 

I have received the new bill but there is an amount for £282.06 listed as Benifit Overpayment; for a period starting when I lived there,

extending to a period when I didn't live there (as confirmed in the Council's Letter).

 

I have never asked for benifits in my life and can only assume this is my friends doing.

 

I sent a letter to the Council about the above issue and the replied saying that I am jointly liable and if I wish to discuss Housing Benifits to call some number.

 

Am I jointly liable for Housing Benefits I didn't claim and have no prior knowledge of?

 

Thanks

Edited by ice22
Link to post
Share on other sites

IMO you wouldn't be liable for the HB overpayment, for one it wasn't in your name so quite how they honestly believe they can make this stick I don't know....

 

I would ask the council to once again look at the figures they are claiming you owe, and to supply you with another updated accurate bill, or a letter explaining and outlining under what Law they think you are liable for an overpayment you were never in receipt of.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

three threads merged

please keep to one thread per issue

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...