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    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later the your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. So if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place and park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and then unload the children followed by reloading the children getting seat belts on etc before driving to the exit stopping for cars, pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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    • Hi  no nothing yet. Hope it stays that way 😬
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Back in April we received a PCN from a company called TPS Parking Solutions Ltd for £70, or £50 if we paid within 7 days for parking at a KFC in St Helens for 2 hours and 1 minute, the notice has photo's of the car on it. The car is registerred in my husbands name, however it is my daughters car and we had forgotten to transfer it back into her name, so the notice came addressed to my husband. After reading several threads on here we have just ignored all correspondence from this company.

 

We have now started to receive letters from a company call Debt Recovery Plus Ltd requesting payment of now £148.99 within 7 days, along with the following:

 

"If you do not contact us following receipt of this letter we will have no alternative other than to assume that you are avoiding making payment. In this situation our solicitors may issue county court proceedings against you.

Please note that if the case reaches court and a county court judgement is obtained, the amount outstanding will increase.(fees added here)

You can view a selection of CCJ's we have sucessfully obtained against people who have ignored our correspondence on our website"

 

We have had 2 letters from these new people now and they have a bright red stripe down the side and clearly visible in the window of the envelope is has www.debtrecoveryplus.co.uk, I think this tactic is to embaress people into paying!!

 

Any advise on what we should do please, still ignore and hope they go away.The car is never parked at our address so they can't come and clamp it and we haven't changed the address to my daughters new address in fear that they will harass her.

 

Thanks for any advice offered

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Just keep ignoring these clowns. You don't owe them a penny. AS for clamping, please don't confuse these invidious with proper bailiffs. They are juster powerless debt-collectors. For a bailiff to come on the scene the case would have to go to court (very unlikely) the case is lost (very, very unlikely) and then the fee ordered by the judge is not paid within 28 days. That's so unlikely it's not worth worrying about.

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It happened to me with a company car, the company I worked for are tighter than a duck's backside but they did not mess about with them - they paid.

 

I think your options are limited - was there a sign stating the staying period, the car is on CCTV, it may be your daughters car but it is registered to your husband and that's who they have addressed the bill too. I don't think they would clamp the car regardless of location as they want cash.

 

I would certainly research the company more although I must admit the website looks legitimate.

 

You won't see a baliff until you have lost the case in court.

 

good luck.

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Thanks for all your advice. I appreciate the car was registerred to my husband so he is the one they are chasing but frankly rather us than my daughter who would have felt bullied into paying it!

I've just been on the debt recovery website and they do list people they say they have taken to court and got ccj's against but surely that information shouldn't be on a website it is stressful enough to get a ccj but to have it openly branded about on a public website is, in my opinion, totally wrong and just goes to show the unsensitive feelings these people have, it indeed they have any feelings.

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Private company=dont pay. They can do nothing about it but use loads of red ink and scary words, Just ignore it, use the letters on bottom of bird cage to catch poop, thats all its worth.

 

Read more on here if in doubt, there are 1000`s of "ignored" on here. Nothing ever happens... Just more people like you and me with BIG smile on face for weeks!:-D

 

tell friends too about this site and private parking tickets.

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i had an invoice from ukpc 2 years ago and 7 letters later they gave in dont worry you have done nothing wrong . infact i took my letters to work and put them up in the rest room where all the lads could not stop laughing at these clowns .i even wrote to them say they remind me of john wayne and hes a cowboy

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infact i took my letters to work and put them up in the rest room where all the lads could not stop laughing at these clowns .i even wrote to them say they remind me of john wayne and hes a cowboyMe too, still get asked if ones are ok to ignore!

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I have today received my 3rd letter from Debt Recovery Plus Ltd with a reduced payment offer. I now only have to pay them £119.19 to stop possible proceedings against me. I think this letter will also go straight into the bin. I just wonder how many letters I will receive before they give up

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It's reducing at the rate of about two quid a day, then.

 

Let's see, at that rate, it should be......erm.....and carry the number you first thought of....around 21st Aug - then no more letters - easy!

All of these are on behalf of a friend.. Cabot - [There's no CCA!]

CapQuest - [There's no CCA!]

Barclays - Zinc, [There's no CCA!]

Robinson Way - Written off!

NatWest - Written off!

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