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Would someone please put my mind at ease, i had a call from HFO saying that they had purchased a debt from barclaycard and that i had to pay £4869, i was in complete shock as they called me on a new mobile phone that was my dads and so was in his name. They said that they had all my details adress the lot, also confirmed them. Ithought this was fishy as the mobile was new and not in my name, they said the orginal debt was 2700 and if i set up payment instanly they can knock the extra charges off. They told me the last time i had made a payment was 2004, so i told them im not willing to setup a payment as i thought the debt was cleared years ago and until i recieve something in writing about the company and where they got my details which they were fine with, swearing that they recieved them, finishing the call trying to get my NI number.

 

i soon found out that they had phoned my mothers address and she thought it was a job opportunity and gave them my details inc my home address and telephone numbers.

 

when they called back last monday i told them in a very ill manor where to go and i have no debt.

 

they have since sent me the following

 

dear mr ----------------

 

your account with: BARCLAYCARD

Your account no:------------------

HFO Case No:-------------------

Amount Owing: £4869.52

 

i have attempted to contact you several times recently, with the offer that HFO has for you in connection with your account. the current balance outstanding is £4869.52. We can minimize the additional costsand interest charges and costs that you are currently incurring through non-payment, provided that you call me on 02030249628. I can assure you that we want to help!

 

we are currently in the proccess of reviewing your account and preparing an in depth information dossier on your current financial situation. if you fail to get in touch, this dossier shall be forwarded to our solicitors with the instructions to sue in oreder the recover the debt. once the solicitors are involved i will no longer be in a position to help you.

 

you have made payments in the past and it is unlikely that you will be able to raise a credible defence to legal action.

 

a county court judgement will affect you credit rating and make it more difficult for you to borrow mooney in the future. once we obtain judgement, we will seek to enforce judegment by applying to the court for a warrant of execution. county court baillifs will visit ------------------ street and sieze your assets which will then be sold at auction to pay the judgement debt.

 

alaternatively HFO may also instruct its solicitors to apply for an order and obtain the information against you which means that the court shall ask you to produce a records for your financial activity for the last 3 years, and to make a full declaration on oath of your declared oir undeclared incomeand assetts, if it is found that your financial situation is better than what you represented, the court might consider taking stern action against you.

 

then they have attached a picture of my home clearly taking from google maps when the previous occupant lived here.

 

i have read posts on HFO on this forum and will be posting the prove it letter tomorrow,

 

should i be worried??????

 

please help

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nope ignore them

 

 

you'll get the google street view pix of your house next threat

 

its statute barred ignore them

 

do a search here for HFO,

 

you'll get the idea and p'haps join the mass complaint against them and their illegal fleecing tactics.

 

oh and PS

 

NEVER EVER discuss your debts on the phone

 

they will threaten everything to you .

 

they have NO LEGAL POWERS they are a DCA.

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Z8519...........Hi.....You have read what most of us think about HFO..............They have really messed up big time with the Data Protection Act,their methods used to obtain your details are illegal.With regard to the date the last payment was made by their own admission was 2004,it is probably "statute barred" or about to be within the next month or so.HFO are real chancers,they have bought a debt that is SB which is not unusual and are using all the threats that this type of pond life can dream up.Are you aware of the actual date of the last payment?????????AGREE TO NOTHING......The PROVE IT LETTER,along with where is the letter from BC and HFO confirming the purchase and sale debt,..................You are doing the right thing.....FS

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no ignore them

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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When you have time please read the following thread and you will see that I am asking anyone getting these street view maps to report this as it is totally illegal.

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?274295-INTERESTING-TREND-DCAs-sending-Google-Street-View-of-your-Home!/page3

 

I would agree that this debt is probably already SB or almost so.

 

You need to report their actions/threats etc. online here: http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/contact

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yes follow HS's advice ... get that done

 

we need to nail these illegal pratts and their antics.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no sorry i dont know the actual date of last payment it would have been between 5 and 6 years ago, i willl follow the advice you have gave and let you know if there is any more to come from them i just didnt want to end up with bailliffs on my door for ignoring a letter, so i just want to confirm i should not send them anything?

just completely ignore them till they give up???????

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Bailiffs?????

 

they are NOT bailiffs they are a debt collection agency

they have NO legals powers

 

bailiffs only come after its been to court AND if you dont then pay

however as this is a statute barred debt [or VERY near it] and

IF they [barclaycard] wanted the money they would have asked YEARS ago

so its prob been written off for tax purposes anyway

so they wont go there either.

 

PLease you REALLY need to do some reading up.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Also send a complaint to OFT as well as Consumer Direct and Google.

 

In my case, I did send a letter of complaint to HFO when i received the same letter and info, plus a request for an original agreement which they have not yet sent. I then put the 'account in dispute' which seems to have stopped them for now. The relevant letters are in the CAG library, state that you do not acknowledge the alleged debt and do not sign. Send registered post with postal order for £1. This may be an idea if they keep up the harassment.

Please support CAG and they will support you.

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Just noticed in the letter that they say 'you have made payments in the past'. Could you or anyone else have made any payments to HFO? I only ask as this can affect the Stat Barred situation. It may be worth contacting Barclaycard if nothing has been paid since the alleged debt was owned by them.

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If you made payments in the past you may not have set the clock ticking again, but you may have made a payment under duress from a debt collecting agency.

 

Sending them a Subject Access Rights request including all payment details of the account would bring this to light, include all telephone numbers they have as contacts in the request and basically they are stuffed.

 

Watch out for the 'you have a parcel to collect, ring this number' postcards (posted SECOND class) as that is another tactic of theirs.

 

Complain to your MP as well about how they managed to get your relatives details, that is a clear breach of OFT guidelines and they should be hammered for that.

 

DO NOT MAKE ANY PAYMENT to them and if phone calls continue tell them IN WRITING PLEASE, they may say they are a telephone only company, in which case you say I DO NOT MAKE PAYMENTS UNLESS I HAVE THE RELEVANT PAPERWORK.

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no, no one has ever made any payments to them any payments that i have made were directly to barclaycard.

 

for now i will ignore them untill they next contact me, i was just worried with the information they have and them threatning the way they have that i was going to be in a world of trouble.

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the complaints are in guys, i just wanna say a big help for all this advice. with regards to telling them i only want contacting by post whats the next step after ignoring this letter.

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ignore the next lot too!

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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z8519............Lots of good advice.........just send the PROVE IT LETTER,do not CCA or SAR as the £1 or £10 postal order will be credited to the account that most of us think is SBd, and HFO will try to say the account is not SBd as you have made a payment even if you state to the contrary,it will save you lots of letter writing.............best of luck.......FS

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per i'd not send anything if the last payment was 2004.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ignoring them will not in itself make things worse. Wait and see what they try and do next. They cannot appoint baliffs or do anything else without court action. The next thing may be that you get a letter threatening legal action from either HFO or Turnbull Rutherford (same people), if you do you can request further information including a copy of an enforcable credit agreement and other information.

Please support CAG and they will support you.

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Everything you receive from HFO/Roxburghe needs to be filed in it's own case. Makes sure it is quite large a one;)

 

Just ignore everything from them until you get a court claim form.

 

Have you found out by SAR to the OC who the debt was sold to and when? This is very important because other HFO threads are indicating that HFO are NOT the company that have actually bought the debt!

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