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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Thought it may have been another one but hope this judge will throw the book at your "friend" - never know if he is upset enough he could make her pay from her bond. Fingers and all other things crossed.

 

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He is apparantly in that area and from the clarks tone he looks down on bailiffs miss-using there powers and he is also not impressed that she did not reply to her 14 day period given to respond and the fact she did not turn up to the first hearing ;)

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He is apparantly in that area and from the clarks tone he looks down on bailiffs miss-using there powers and he is also not impressed that she did not reply to her 14 day period given to respond and the fact she did not turn up to the first hearing ;)

 

Oh Woe Is She :-)

 

Hope she gets what she deserves. Shame he can't lock her up for contempt

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Ok guys as a good will thing i am going to send them info on car they belive to be mine this is a letter i am sending with information letter showing i have been in touch with the DVLA for them tell me what you think

 

 

I write in regards to the information requested regarding an unlawful levy made on a car not owned by myself or ***** ***********. After speaking to the DVLA it was asked that I put my request in writing which I have done and sent off I enclose a copy for your records. I was informed by the DVLA that the information requested will take between 4 to 6 weeks and the information can not be requested over the phone. I also enclose a copy of a simple PNC on the registration number you have on your unlawful levy. I would also like to request that you do not waste anyone else’s time by sending bailiffs out or requesting other information this Will satisfy what has been asked for. Should this now carry on any further a report of miss conduct will go further I have suffered enough of the bullying tactics of bailiffs from your company and I will not roll over to them all payments have been made and there is no longer a outstanding Liability order. All the charges added to the account by yourself have either been paid or are unlawful and therefore there is no longer anything else to collect on I enclose a postal order of the legal £7.50 still owed to yourself which your latest bailiff refused to take when he realised he was been videoed.

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Ok guys as a good will thing i am going to send them info on car they believe to be mine this is a letter i am sending with information letter showing i have been in touch with the DVLA for them tell me what you think

 

 

I write in regards to the information requested regarding an unlawful levy made on a car not owned by myself or ***** ***********.

Who requested what info

 

 

 

After speaking to the DVLA it was asked that I put my request in writing which I have done and sent off I enclose a copy for your records. I was informed by the DVLA that the information requested will take between 4 to 6 weeks and the information can not be requested over the phone.

 

why are you getting in touch with the DVLA

 

I also enclose a copy of a simple PNC on the registration number you have on your unlawful levy. I would also like to request that you do not waste anyone else’s time by sending bailiffs out or requesting other information this Will satisfy what has been asked for. Should this now carry on any further a report of miss conduct will go further I have suffered enough of the bullying tactics of bailiffs from your company and I will not roll over to them all payments have been made and there is no longer a outstanding Liability order. All the charges added to the account by yourself have either been paid or are unlawful and therefore there is no longer anything else to collect on I enclose a postal order of the legal £7.50 still owed to yourself which your latest bailiff refused to take when he realised he was been videoed.

 

send them nothing to with the car reg

send them the £7.50 and tell them you believe that covers the outstanding amount due for the 1st and 2nd visit fees

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This is what i received from the court

 

 

 

Dear Miss *********

 

Re: Complaint against Certified Bailiff – Miss ******** **** ******

 

I am writing to you with regard to a complaint that was lodged by you against Miss ******.

 

Miss ******’s file was put before Circuit Judge Butler who considerd both your complaint and the Bailiffs response and has directed that it be listed for a hearing.

 

A hearing has been listed for the Bailiff to appear before Circuit Judge Butler on Wedensday 1st June at 10.30 am at Preston County Court, The Ringway, Preston, Lancashire.

 

You may attend court on that day but you are not required to do so. I enclose a copy of the Judges decision in which he states ‘ that you might not be awarded any costs whatever the outcome and might be at risk to costs, particularly if the complaint is ultimately unsuccessful’

 

 

 

1. Ms ******** ( me ) has complained ( in form 4 dated 4th October 2010) of the conduct of the certificated bailiff who was attempting to enforce a debt specified as Council Tax owed to Newcastle City Council. She complains of miss conduct including assault on 21st June 2010.

2. The bailiff has since ceased employment with Rossendales Limited who employed her at that date. Rossendales notified the court that issued her certificate ( Burnley Combined Court) of that fact on 21st January 2011 and said that her bond had been cancelled. However the bond was in force at the relevant date. The court immediately wrote to her requesting the return of her certificate for cancelation or amendment in the case of transfer to another employer. I am informed by the court staff that as the date of this decision the bailiff has neither replied in writing nor otherwise contacted the court. In those circumstances the bailiff remains subject to jurisdiction of the issuing court.

 

 

Decision

 

3 What miss ******** ( me ) describes would have been a criminal offence but the police or CPS have not prosecuted, apparently for lack of independent witnesses. The bailiff has not responded directly to the complaint but her then employer interviewed her and there letter dated 17th January 2011 asserts that the bailiff’s version off events was that the wheel clamp that she had fitted in a seizure of a vehicle had been interfered with and that she was abused and assaulted by someone ( not as I understand it specifically Miss ******** (me) )

 

4 There are obviously two sides to this storey. Just as the police and CPS were unable to prosecute for lack of independent evidence so also am I unable to resolve the dispute on paper.

 

5 In any event, rule 8(2) of the distress for rent rules 1988 requires the bailiff to reply to the complaint and rule 8(3) provides that if the bailiff fails to do so then the bailiff must be summoned to appear before a Judge on a specified date to show cause why the certificate should not be cancelled. The letter from her employer or former employer does not suffice to satisfy these rules. Therefore I direct that there must be an oral hearing of this complaint, to be listed before me on the first available date after the 1st May 2011 with an estimated length of 1 hour.

 

6 A notice should be issued summoning the bailiff to attend and show cause why her certificate should not be cancelled. Ms ******** ( me) should be notified of the date and may attend ( but is not required to do so) Ms ******** ( me) should also be warned that she may not be awarded any costs whatever the outcome and might be at risk as to costs, particularly if the complaint is unsuccessful. Rossendales should also be notified because rule 9(1) allows the court in a proper case to order forfeiture of the security (bond) in whole or part and they may wish to make representations, particularly is the bailiff fails to attend.

 

7 I order accordingly.

 

 

 

 

Please feel free to comment as i don't understand all of it but i get the jist of it LOL

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Basically you have been invited to the hearing, is she doesnt turn up she will have her certificate revoked and you may or may not be awarded costs depending on the mood of the Judge and whether he/she feels that there is good cause for your complaint.

If however she does turn up and she persuades the Judge that she acted within the guidelines then you may be liable for her costs.

In my opinion I suggest you go, it looks good on you, you can then speak to the judge yourself.

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When i sent in the complaint for i made sure i put on it how distressed the kids where i also sent pictures of the bruising she left me with i also made it clear on the times she turned up at the house which i do have the proof as she wrote herself the time on the paper she left on the car at 6.35 am i really do want to go but my doctor is advising against it as since all of this i have sufferd with panic attacks and my depression left me all over the place but as i said to the doctor i started to fight this and i want to finish it me and my children suffered no end and i would like to think she turned up and i was there and to hopefully see her loose everything

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The whole hearing in my mind will all hinge on Para 3. I also think the same as others it does not look good that she has not responded to previous messages from the Court and what I do find quite amazing is that her employer or past employer does not appear to have supported her fully - Para 5.

 

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The whole hearing in my mind will all hinge on Para 3. I also think the same as others it does not look good that she has not responded to previous messages from the Court and what I do find quite amazing is that her employer or past employer does not appear to have supported her fully - Para 5.

 

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Yes para 3 is critical, and if the bailiff doesn't turn up, she could well find herself being the subject of a warrant for one of her buddy pal bailiffs to bring her before the court to answer the charges levelled at her. She could well find herself in contempt if she disses a Judge imho

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Afternoon all thought i would give you an update i have got a letter from rossendales this morning thathas me shaking in my boots ( NOT ) :lol: this is how it goes

 

NOTICE OF REMOVAL PROCEEDINGS

 

Dear sir/madem

 

Newcastle U[on Tyne City Council C Tax

 

Overdue Balance: £212.50

 

Despite previous correspondence you have not made payment to clear the above overdue balance.

 

It is now our intention to attend your property with a view to removing goods, to be sold at auction to raise funds to settle the outstanding amount. Should you wish to avoid this course of action you must act now and either pay in full amount immediately, or contact our office to discuss settlement of your account.

 

 

NO FURTHER REMINDERS WILL BE ISSUED

 

 

I am not worried by this at all i think a nice strong worded letter needs to be sent back so i am going to work on this as they are not listening i have decided i will not do there donkey work and they can contact the DVLA. I am also going to inform them should they carry on sending people to my door i will proceed to have them warned under the harrasment act :) i have put up with enough crap from these bullies now and enough is enough i am standing for no more!!!!

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Ok my reply to letter recived this morning any comments welcome will print and send this afternoon

 

 

 

For the attention of the bailiff manager

 

I write in regards to your recent letter dated the 6th May 2011 stating NOTICE OF REMOVAL PROCEEDINGS. I am now informing you that should you attempt to enter my property I will have any person/persons arrested and charged for attempting to burgle. As stated and proven on may occasions you nor your company have the power to enter a property without any legal levy’s taking place and to put a legal levy you also need a Liability order issued from a court. I can confirm for the last time that you do not have a active liability order for this address nor do you have any legal levy’s. On more than one occasion I have tried my up most to deal with this with your self’s but no satisfaction you are still trying to bully and scare me into paying you illegal fee’s to which are not owed. Should you wish to carry on trying to collect on the illegal fee’s then you must take it to a civil court. I am also going to speak with a solicitor regarding a complaint of harassment. If your company or staff where competent enough this would all of been dealt with and forgotten about a long time ago. Should you continue to carry on with the bully boy tactics I will be forced to go to the media over your company and not just the bailiff’s involved in this case from previous.

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Send copies to the head of revenues, council leader, and councillor as a Formal Complaintand the MP as well Rossendales are taking the mick, this has gone on long enough, you could also inform them there is no levy in place, and the original bailiff is due in court on a Form 4

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I was going to put that on about the court hearing but thats probs why they are doing this just to be akward this all started in june last yr so its been going on nearly a year now

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