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    • Same issue got a fine yesterday for parking in suspended bay which was ending at 6:30 yesterday, next thing I see a fine 15 minutes before it. The sign was obstructed 
    • Hi all, an update on the case as the deadline for filing the WS is tomorrow i.e., 14 days before the hearing date: 7th June. Evri have emailed their WS today to the court and to myself. Attached pdf of their WS - I have redacted personal information and left any redactions/highlights by Evri. In the main: The WS is signed by George Wood. Evri have stated the claim value that I am seeking to recover is £931.79 including £70 court fees, and am putting me to strict proof as to the value of the claim. Evri's have accepted that the parcel is lost but there is no contract between Evri and myself, and that the contract is with myself and Packlink They have provided a copy of the eBay Powered By Packlink Terms and Conditions (T&Cs) to support their argument the contractual relationship is between myself and Packlink, highlighting clause 3a, e, g of these T&Cs. They further highlight clause 14 of the T&Cs which states that Packlink's liability is limited to £25 unless enhanced compensation has been chosen. They have contacted Packlink who informed them that I had been in contact with Packlink and raised a claim with Packlink and the claim had been paid accordingly i.e., £25 in line with the T&Cs and the compensated postage costs of £4.82. They believe this is clear evidence that my contract is with Packlink and should therefore cease the claim against Evri. Evri also cite Clause 23 of the pre-exiting commercial agreement between the Defendant and Packlink, which states:  ‘Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 A person who is not a party to this Agreement shall have no rights under the Contracts (Right of Third Parties) Act 1999 to rely upon or enforce any term of this Agreement provided that this does not affect any right or remedy of the third party which exists or is available apart from that Act.’ This means that the Claimant cannot enforce third party rights under the Contract (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 and instead should cease this claim and raise a dispute with the correct party.   Having read Evri's WS and considered the main points above, I have made these observations: Evri have not seen/read my WS (sent by post and by email) as they would have recognised the claim value is over £1000 as it includes court fees, trial fees, postage costs and interests, and there is a complete breakdown of the different costs and evidence. Evri accepts the parcel is lost after it entered their delivery network - again, this is in my WS and is not an issue in dispute. Evri mentions the £25 and £4.82 paid by Packlink - Again, had they read the WS, they would have realised this is not an issue in dispute. Furthermore to the eBay Powered By Packlink T&Cs that Evri is referring to, Clauses 3b and c of the T&Cs states:  (b)   Packlink is a package dispatch search engine that acts as an intermediary between its Users and Transport Agencies. Through the Website, Users can check the prices that different Transport Agencies offer for shipments and contract with the Transport Agency that best suits their needs on-line. (c)  Each User shall then enter into its own contract with the chosen Transport Agency. Packlink does not have any control over, and disclaims all liability that may arise in contracts between a User and a Transport Agency   This supports the view that once a user (i.e, myself) selects a transport agency (i.e Evri) that best suits the user's needs, the user (i.e, myself) enters into a contract with the chosen transport agency (i.e, myself). Therefore, under the T&Cs, there is a contract between myself and Evri. Evri cites their pre-existing agreement with Packlink and that I cannot enforce 3rd party rights under the 1999 Act. Evri has not provided a copy of this contract, and furthermore, my point above explains that the T&Cs clearly explains I have entered into a contract when i chose Evri to deliver my parcel.  As explained in my WS, i am the non-gratuitous beneficiary as my payment for Evri's delivery service through Packlink is the sole reason for the principal contract coming into existence. Clearly Evri have not read by WS as the above is all clearly explained in there.   I am going to respond to Evri's email by stating that I have already sent my WS to them by post/email and attach the email that sent on the weekend to them containing my WS. However, before i do that, If there is anything additional I should further add to the email, please do let me know. Thanks. Evri Witness Statement Redacted v1 compressed.pdf
    • Thank you. I will get on to the SAR request. I am not sure now who the DCA are - I have a feeling it might be the ACI group but will try to pull back the letter they wrote from her to see and update with that once I have it. She queried it initially with 118 118 when she received the default notice I think. Thanks again - your help and support is much appreciated and I will talk to her about stopping her payments at the weekend.
    • you should email contact OCMC immediately and say you want an in person hearing.   stupid to not
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misskrumbo, I understand that you're upset, but there's no need to take it out on other caggers, IMO. You don't sound calm to me at the moment, sorry.

 

As Loopinlouie isn't here to defend herself, and as you only joined us yesterday and may not have read all the threads, I promise you we do have some kind and helpful DWP people, who try to advise worried people on this forum, in their own time.

 

If this wasn't Damsel's thread, I would be unsubbing. You might consider starting your own, as this thread is about Damsel's problems.

 

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Misskrumbo,you are entitled to your thoughts and opinions but keep them civil.

This is a job someone has to do-and its in the interests of all those who are honest,that it is.

 

Only those who have things to hide or else are legitimate targets for investigation should feel the need to be concerned-because they will be caught and rightly dealt with appropriately.

 

Its unfortunate that along the way,the innocent can sometimes feel targetted for no reason,but those who are responsible for abuse have made the rules.

 

Just look at this from all angles.

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I thought at first as said you were inspiring. I for one do not work for the dwp, most posters here will have gathered that and if you want a true picture of how those who work for the dwp do help out, click on my username and into statistics and search for threads started by me, one titled confused.

 

You will see I came to this site uninformed of my entitlements and nervous of an overpayment which was not my fault. I after a few pages became reassured and was helped by a number of people from different areas and later I realised at least a couple were dwp employees. They also picked up on something welfare rights had tried to help me with and encouraged me to chase another benefit, I now get that money.

 

If they were so bad they wouldnt have troubled themselves to help out, but you see they do care and want to help people who dont know their rights get help.

 

Whilst I do not feel all in the dwp is fair and some innocent are caused a great deal of stress, I do not in any way think it fair to blame the employees. Thats my own experience:D

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Misskrumbo, its a shame that your '**** HOT Criminal Lawyer' gave you incorrect advice.

 

Yes both the DWP and local authority can demand copies of your bank statements under the Social Security Fraud Act 1997. They do have to make an application and give their reasons as to why they feel that a fraud may have been committed.

 

The DWP also do speak to the UKBA and what is called a 'memorandum of understanding' between both government departments has been signed and agreed by the top people so that information can be passed between departments

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Every body who is chattin on this site has got problems concerning the title.

why dont you pull your head back in, you are boring me now.

We know dams has got some problems, i understand her.

but where there is a will there is a way. Or do you not agree.

Whats wrong with tryin to Boost dams confidence. She should be told that there is nothing wrong in fighting back. Better to fight back than lose everything. Its ok saying poor dams. I am saying appeal fight back.

Do what you have to do to protect yourself from these Bottom feeders, (investigators) Try every trick in the book, And after 12 wks go to the local government omsbudsman, and complain to them, she could even ring them now for a chat and ask what there opinion is.

Do you know somthing i think you are one of them. May be D.W.P. or some other agency.

My advice to anybody is fight back, at least you learning along the way.

Has anybody ever had experience of a decent crimminal solicitor on legal aid.

If any body wants one i would be pleased to give a number to you.

She spent one hour talking me through the legalities of this investigation stuff right through to what they can and can not do or say to you. About court stuff the lot. All for free, Then about the process of legal aid.:p

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Whats wrong with a good old fashioned debate?

Truth hurts the investigators. what ever happened to innocent till proven guilty. AND DECIDED BY THE BRITISH COURT OF LAW.

Whats wrong with the right to freedom of speach!

Whats wrong is the invasion of privacy, and a lack of respect to our human rights.

Blah Blah Blah.

And no i wont watch it!

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Don't be silly i aint upset, thanks for your concern though!

Why should i get my own thread, excuse me.

Boosting dam's confidence.

Have you lot come up with any real help for her yet.

whats up have all the investigators come home from work now or what?

You investigators are not the only guy's with a voice.

But you get a kick out of makin sure people lose there homes and possesions,

all day long, then what do you do? feel guilty and get on sites like this and dish out advice on how to solve peoples problems that you cause.

So whats your expert advice to dam's.

You are a strange breed of humanity!:grin::grin::grin:

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Misskrumbo, I sent you a private message earlier. I can only assume that you have not yet read it. If you are having trouble accessing your private messages, please let me know.

 

For the benefit of anyone who has not yet read the forum rules, they are here.

 

Now Damselindistress, let's get back to your thread.

My advice is based on my opinion, my experience and my education. I do not profess to be an expert in any given field. If requested, I will provide a link where possible to relevant legislation or guidance, so that advice provided can be confirmed and I do encourage others to follow those links for their own peace of mind. Sometimes my advice is not what people necesserily want to hear, but I will advise on facts as I know them - although it may not be what a person wants to hear it helps to know where you stand. Advice on the internet should never be a substitute for advice from your own legal professional with full knowledge of your individual case.

 

 

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Damsel, I haven't forgotten that this is your thread. Did you see the solicitor today and has it helped? I hope so.

 

I hope so too Damsel. I'm unsure of the intricacies of the IUC process but feel that you should also draw attention to your health problems as a mitigating factor.

 

My personal approach would be one of damage limitation. You've done something you clearly regret (which one of us hasn't at some point in our life??) and I think it would be best for you to put this behind you as quickly as you (and the DWP of course) possibly can and move forward.

 

If the Housing Association remain intransigent about increasing their percentage of home ownership then I would be inclined to take in a lodger as you have previously touched upon. There are tax breaks for this and so long as your house is safe and clean then I wouldn't be overly concerned about any other costly modifications.

 

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Whats wrong with a good old fashioned debate?

Truth hurts the investigators. what ever happened to innocent till proven guilty. AND DECIDED BY THE BRITISH COURT OF LAW.

Whats wrong with the right to freedom of speach!

Whats wrong is the invasion of privacy, and a lack of respect to our human rights.

Blah Blah Blah.

And no i wont watch it!

 

 

 

Absolutely nothing wrong with debate.... in the right place at the right time. These threads are not meant for debate, they're meant for help and advice.

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" i SPOKE TO THE CRIMMINAL SOLICITOR. She told me that they can not get into my bank account and could not go to immagration. I have not been out of this country in five years. " quote by misskrumbo

 

 

 

This is categorically not true. As an investigator I can have access to both of these things as long as I can justify the intrusion.

 

I also personally welcome a solicitor in an IUC, as they can often advise the interviewee to be sensible if they are guilty and my evidence is overwhelming. If the interviewee has a compelling story or my evidence is weak or I have misinterpreted it they are useful in helping things get sorted. Contrary to popular belief, I want the right outcome: I have no vested interest in getting a result by trickery or underhand means. Evidence is everything.

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By the way.....an administrative Penalty is 30% of the overpayment, not 20 as previously quoted. It is not negotiable.

 

Correct. My error. This is why it's probably a good job a request had to be sent to someone else to work the 30% out for me:roll:

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No worries mate.

 

Also, criminal solicitors are great at their jobs. However, they often haven't got a clue how the benefit system works. They will ensure PACE is adhered to etc, but it is often not their area of expertise. An interviews on tape for everyones benefit, it means that everything said is available verbatim.

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I'm getting quite paranoid about the number of invetigators - past or present - infiltrating the forum!

Seriously though, as long as you give good and helpfull info it's nice to see things from an official perspective. [i'm far too used to posting on the bailiff forum where life is not so genteel!]

Best wishes.

Rae.

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CAG welcomes all people here, staff or claimants so long as the forum rules are adhered to by all parties, there isn't an issue.

 

I'm sure there are many investigators frequenting the forums who don't post as well as those who do, so don't let it unnerve you Kelcou.

My advice is based on my opinion, my experience and my education. I do not profess to be an expert in any given field. If requested, I will provide a link where possible to relevant legislation or guidance, so that advice provided can be confirmed and I do encourage others to follow those links for their own peace of mind. Sometimes my advice is not what people necesserily want to hear, but I will advise on facts as I know them - although it may not be what a person wants to hear it helps to know where you stand. Advice on the internet should never be a substitute for advice from your own legal professional with full knowledge of your individual case.

 

 

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Several posts, totally unrelated to Damsel's post and completely unhelpful to her have yet again, been removed. Posts in response to this disruption have also been removed as they make no sense on their own, now that the disruptive postings have been taken out from the thread.

 

Back on topic......

My advice is based on my opinion, my experience and my education. I do not profess to be an expert in any given field. If requested, I will provide a link where possible to relevant legislation or guidance, so that advice provided can be confirmed and I do encourage others to follow those links for their own peace of mind. Sometimes my advice is not what people necesserily want to hear, but I will advise on facts as I know them - although it may not be what a person wants to hear it helps to know where you stand. Advice on the internet should never be a substitute for advice from your own legal professional with full knowledge of your individual case.

 

 

Please do not seek, offer or produce advice on a consumer issue via private message; it is against

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