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    • I honestly don't know, Baz. In addition what I don't  understand (from that pamphlet) is this: The s88 criteria are quite clear and don't need a medical professional to interpret them . The one most relevant to his topic says that an application is not a "qualifying application" if a relevant disability has been declared. The problem with the word "may" is how does the applicant establish whether me "may" driver under s88 when he has not complied with its conditions? I don't know the answer to that either. But to further muddy the waters, the pamphlet says this (about : But the s88 statute says absolutely nothing like that at all. It simply says that if you have declared a relevant disability s88 does not apply. The DVLA pamphlet is simply confusing as far as I can see. That's actually my opinion and that's what I would stick to if it was me making the application. But I'll seek a few opinions from others over the next couple of days.
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I paid them to draft the original forms way back,I think that was about £90. Then just about 6 weeks ago (once the respondent hadn't paid) I chose the representation option,I had to pay another £97 and as I said sign over 30% of any payout. I've not met them at all,but up until now they've been okay,now my mail is ignored and all I get is a promise of return call,clearly they know my case sucks and they have bigger fish to fry. I'm just going to see if I can get the money back,I'm not that hopeful !

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I don't know if they are or not to be honest - I guess it's reasonably easy to find out ? I've not had any notification of a pre-hearing,just the bundle exchange letter which was last week. As you can probably gather I was under the illusion that everything was being taken care for me,which is why I was willing to give up 30%. Now I'm having to get up to speed on the process,which is difficult,what with earning a living etc.

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Does this company have a website?

How far along are you, ET wise? Has anything been scheduled?

Received an ET response from the employer?

How come I just keep asking questions?

Do I actually have an opinion about anything?

Why do I hate my ex wife?

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Aye. I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope for that lot. Keep trying with them, see if you can get something back.

Seems like they charge ya the best part of £100 just for a form that's on the ET website to fill in for free.

Could you afford to instruct a solicitor, even just for a consultation, £200?

Do you have household insurance that might include legal cover?

Are you in full-time gainfull?

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Yer I'm going to call them in the morning and ask for a refund. I guess I could speak to a solicitor but to be honest I'd hoped going thru this firm would have made the respondent pay out before now,that was my plan,epic fail ! So my feeling is that I could be throwing good money after bad,that's why I'm just looking to represent myself,after all they can't hang me !

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Can I ask how long you've had to wait for your case to be heard as I've been waiting a long time for mine (Oct 08 when I put my claim in and was accepted)....Also,I've had no pre-hearing reveiw?whats that all about...i did have a date in June but it was postponed at the other sides request and when I last spoke to the E/T they were looking to schedule it for Dec but i haven't heard anything yet

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Hi Greendollar ! I'm not sure about a pre-hearing review,as far as I know that is something you have to request,rather than it being mandatory ? I think you're in the right forum but probably the wrong thread to get an accurate answer to that question. I put my claim in way back in May,these things clearly take time huh ! Let us know how you get on :O)

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Thanks for the reply hedgehog,

I will keep an eye on how your getting on,my E/T bundle went in over 6 montha ago but I'm lucky as I have a union sorting my claim out.I've had several letters from my former employer threatening cost and stating my claim has no merit and little chance of succeeding but a stern reply from the union stating...."your threat of a request for an order for costs against him is a common tactic used to scare off claimants.....and I hope that the tribunal will consider the appropriateness or otherwise of your attempt to intimidate".

Good luck with your claim and don't be put off by their threats.

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Does this company have a website?

How far along are you, ET wise? Has anything been scheduled?

Received an ET response from the employer?

How come I just keep asking questions?

Do I actually have an opinion about anything?

Why do I hate my ex wife?

PMSL I thought I was seeing things! It's good to laugh after a long day. Thanks elpulpo. :D

 

 

 

 

PS I don't know the answers to your questions. :D

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Hi,I'm back here again ! Could someone please help ? My hearing has been set for next month,naturally Tribunal Action didn't inform me (they had said they were trying to get a settlement but when I did eventually manage to get to speak to them they said they wanted an extra £1000) so now I'm in a bit of a state to say the least. I'll keep this brief :

 

Notice of orders - I've been told I need to comply ? How ? I've just emailed the tribunal hoping they might clarify this for me.

 

Many thanks once again (all this time later - how mad is this !)

 

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Hi,I was told about the notice of orders by the Acas conciliator. As I mentioned I've asked the Tribunal by email for an outline of where I am right now. As for Tribunal Action - they are a waste of space,I'm not sure how much I've paid them in truth,not that much but more than enough. I'm going to pursue them for compensation now. Thanks again.

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I don't know much about your claim but Constructive Dismissal is very hard to prove.

 

If, by some way of chance, TAUK were to make a complete hash of this, you could have a claim against them for professional negligence.

 

The fact that they are not Solicitors would be irrelevant, since they have held themselves out as being Employment Law experts, capable of running your claim.

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I don't know much about your claim but Constructive Dismissal is very hard to prove.

 

If, by some way of chance, TAUK were to make a complete hash of this, you could have a claim against them for professional negligence.

 

The fact that they are not Solicitors would be irrelevant, since they have held themselves out as being Employment Law experts, capable of running your claim.

 

Thanks - I'm aware that these cases can be hard to prove but I firmly believe that mine can be won.I'm also looking into the case against TA very closely. Thanks again - Just waiting to see what the Tribunal say now :O)

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Hi again - I've emailed the Tribunal to confirm that Tribunal Action are no longer representing me and asking for some guidance regards where I need to be (the hearing is late next month) in terms of paperwork (Tribunal Action have everything and appear not to be willing to return it) but as of yet I've had no response. Could someone please point me in the right direction ? What will I need to represent my self ? Thanks again -

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Hi,

 

You should request that all documents in 'Tribunal Action' possession be returned to you as a matter of urgency, if not already done.

 

As per 'Tribunal Action UK', it is a trading title of Action Direct (UK) Limited. Their business is authorised by the Regulator (MoJ) to provide regulated claims management services. You may want to contact the MoJ and raise a complaint about the services and advices provided to your during the management of your case.

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Thanks Bigredbus - TA are a difficult bunch to get hold of,the phone is busy all day,I mean constantly and when one does get a ring tone is just rings and rings.If you're lucky enough to get an answer its always someone who's "just standing in" or "doesn't know anything about your case and will ask someone to come back to you" of course this never happens. I've asked for my documents twice now over the phone and by email several times,no reply. I made a scan of most of the stuff before it went off but I don't have the ET1 form (I think the Tribunal will provide a copy but as yet they to haven't replied me). When I left my job way back in April 2009 I was exhausted,I'd been working extremely long hours under unreasonable pressure. I went with TA without researching them,but in truth at first they seemed okay. Are TA obliged to return my documents ? I get the feeling they've binned them :O)

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Me again ! The tribunal sent me the docs I've been unable to recover from Tribunal Action and a list of organizations that might advise me for free - two questions please :

 

  • What organizations are the best and quickest (my case is in 3 weeks)

 

  • Is it actually worth speaking with any of these "free" advice lines ?

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Thanks ! To be honest I've managed to retrieve most of what I need from email attachments and stuff I found on old memory sticks etc. So now I'm just getting to grips with the prospect of representing myself. The case seems quite straight forward - they made me work very long hours with no break and when I complained they made my life hell - so I left. My problem is proving what happened as my grievances were made verbally (my argument is that I want to resolve the situation and not have to leave,so I tried to negotiate a resolution verbally,which made it worse) and not in writing. They made a bit of a botch of the grievance meeting in truth so I'm hoping that I can prove my situation was genuine.

However,yesterday I received another letter from the respondent asking for the final docs etc and warning that the estimated costs against me were now potentially £8000+ (should I worry ?) I've told them I'm not concerned and will continue regardless and that I'm also looking at a personal injury claim (undue stress etc) - is this realistic ?

Tonight I'm putting together my claim against TA in an email to [email protected]

 

I'm starting to enjoy this process now :O)

 

I'll look into the law centre (thank you) but as stated I have very little time and I have to work everyday up until the hearing - So I'm guessing they probably won't be very flexible ?

 

If there's anyone here that wants to earn a days money by representing me (one day it will be thru I'm thinking) then please PM me. :lol:

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