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    • Hello, firstly thank you for reading this. I know no one wants a long winded back story. So I’ll be breif. I entered a local store to buy some paint (which I did pay for) I am honestly not a bad person or a theif.   Didn’t have a basket or trolly as was on my lunch break. Whilst picking up the three tubs of paint placed some masking tape in my pocket (it was hanging out of so I had every intention to pay) just didn’t have a hand free. Paid for my goods (forgot about the £4.39 masking tape) I’ve got so much going on and im not well at all (like I say no one cares I get that) also have autism so wasn’t thinking particularly like others do maybe (who knows my minds going around and around) I left the store after paying, was pulled back in by security. Asked for the tape which I gave immediately  shook up. Gave them my ID and details. I was given some paper and told to expect a large fine in the post for their time and the tape and sent on my way. my questions are: I hardly ever go out without support so the ban I guess I can’t go there now for anything (their loss) - ok but is my photo going to be all over with my name? how much am I expecting in the post as a fine? I have sent them cash in the post recorded signed for delivery to arrive tomorrow (incident happened today) for my error. Their Address was on the bit of paper. i have read two posts on this page but they were from many many years ago so I hoped for updated advise please? 
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    • So should I send them a new SAR and put my date of birth on it? Or do I need to send them some proof? Driving license? 
    • Thanks so much for your help!! I've emailed them, and when they reply saying they can't do it I'll reply and state my rights. I'm so glad I found this forum, and will read all of the posts I can find and help guides available for the future. Really can't thank you enough.
    • utter BS, doesn't matter you signed it. pers i'd be writing as per the other threads here rejecting the car as not as described under CRA etc and be done with it. as its a debit card you could also do a full chargeback within 120 days to your bank and simply dump the car back to BMW. 100's of like threads to read here. get your ducks inline. make sure you know what you are doing and off you go. dont take any BS from BMW, no matter what you sign it does NOT remove your consumer rights. p'haps it might be on the off chance you are a good manager , a quick phonecall tomorrow saying you dont want it because (no bla bla fitted) it might be resolved in 5 mins..i will guess to date you not tried
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As for getting on your moral high-horse. I find it abhorrent that you ask for compassion for your own situation but accuse Pie & Beer call centre operators of verging on moral bankruptcy without knowing their situation.

 

I wouldn't say the staff are verging on moral bankruptcy, I rather think they've managed to achieve it.

 

Good thing though as it'll open up a lot of job opportunities when Piosneer goes down, there's always other jobs where morals, ethics and the law play a back seat to $$$$...

 

a boiler room share trader

pimp

drug dealer

timeshare salesman

second hand car dealer

tabloid journalist

erm... debt collector

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I wouldn't say the staff are verging on moral bankruptcy, I rather think they've managed to achieve it.

 

Good thing though as it'll open up a lot of job opportunities when Piosneer goes down, there's always other jobs where morals, ethics and the law play a back seat to $$$$...

 

a boiler room share trader

pimp

drug dealer

timeshare salesman

second hand car dealer

tabloid journalist

erm... debt collector

we should all shout him a ticket to ontario. he can take the lemons back to the dodgy b*gger he bought them from before they give him amoebic dysentry....

 

sure i'll play nicely referee but the otherside has to have at least some code of conduct to run by...

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I wouldn't say the staff are verging on moral bankruptcy, I rather think they've managed to achieve it.

 

Good thing though as it'll open up a lot of job opportunities when Piosneer goes down, there's always other jobs where morals, ethics and the law play a back seat to $$$$...

 

a boiler room share trader

pimp

drug dealer

timeshare salesman

second hand car dealer

tabloid journalist

erm... debt collector

 

for everything else in life there is barclaycard... no reasonable person would contend that being a telephone monkey for a dca is a job of choice surely?

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Dodgy debt lighten up...I thought participating in these forums is one way you become informed. The battle is just starting for me...all I'm looking for is some insight from others who have come before me. Your abuse and your false accusations are unwarranted, unfair and unfounded. I never claimed to be an expert, I was just asking questions pertinent to my situation.

 

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battle with who? pls stop talking in riddles....

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The last sentence should begin, "Now that we have .......".

 

Typing one fingered while lying in bed isn't the best way but I was too tired last night and it will be another late night tonight. If you thought sailors could drink wait until you start drinking with politicians. There is a very good reason why the House of Commons has a 24-hour bar!

 

On a more serious note, even though I am enjoying this I know that many of you are highly stressed over the actions of Pie & Beer. For everyone on this forum there are hundreds of others in the same boat. Try not to stress too much and spread the word about PFF and the actions being taken against Pie & Beer. Some of these actions must remain private at the moment but not for much longer.

 

To the owners of this forum, a big thank you for assisting in the fight against the illegal activities of these con artists and standover merchants. I am sure Pie & Beer will try to shut down this thread, if they haven't already done so. These people prey on the weak and vulnerable, exploiting others fears and ignorance for their own personal gain. It is time to end their reign of terror.

hear hear. i'll second that....

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Which one of you is an employee of this this said company?

 

Now there's a question!

 

Dodgydebt most certainly isn't but as yet, and despite numerous opportunities, nay challenges, seevee has yet to state his / her position.

 

Huffy protestations that they are "participating in these forums" to "become informed" doesn't really answer the question. Sounds more like DD hit a nerve.

 

So...once and for all, seevee are you connected in any way to Pie and Beer and /or their legal team and if so in what capacity.

 

Now be honest ... any naughty fibs will not only make baby Jesus cry but will also come back and probably bite you in the **edit**

 

For the record, for those that don't know me - I'm neither PFF nor DCA. I'm just happy to be in Australia.

and ozzy, on whatever forum we meet, under whichever name we play we are happy that you are here too...

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The battle is just starting for me...all I'm looking for is some insight from others who have come before me. Your abuse and your false accusations are unwarranted, unfair and unfounded. I never claimed to be an expert, I was just asking questions pertinent to my situation.

 

I'm intrigued Seevee - what is your situation exactly? And which battle is just starting for you? Are you the legal representation for Pie & Beer's MD?? :lol:

 

Any updates from ASIC/ACCC/PC/FOS from anyone??

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Sorry for the delay in responding fans. I had a real and worthy job (by the forum's own standards) to do.

 

Debt collection practices in Australia: summary of stakeholder consultation

 

What exactly was the purpose of posting this Seevee?

 

As mentioned above, this is pretty basic reading and one of the first documents we all found during our research - obviously Pie & Beer need to make themselves a lot more familiar with this material, as (in my experience with them) they have actively & deliberately gone against every guideline in this report.

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CV, i truely hope for your sake you don't need our help and aren't in the same situation we are as you really haven't won any fans here....to which I will add today I was served (finally) and after daring openly on this forum to do so..any connection CV? Very happy to report I was as now I have a true and just platform in which to state my claim and settle this crap once and for all. Afterall I should be planning the PFF Xmas party and not pleading the bleading obvious. A little holiday to Perth coming up if any other PFFs care to join me!!

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Dodgy, welcome to the "Served by Pie & Beer Club". Although membership is not as exclusive as it used to be.

 

Don't forget to send your application to stay the proceedings on grounds of jurisdiction along with a notice that you will be seeking costs. This way, if Pie & Beer try to proceed you can claim back the cost of your holiday to beautiful WA from Pie & Beer for the pre-trial before the case is thrown out.

 

I've sent you a Private Message regarding legal assistance here in WA. The case for jurisdiction is already made in Common, Statute and Case Law. Pie & Beer/S****e have been sent some case references by another PFF member. My team have numerous others including several High Court decisions.

 

Ceevee, can you get the guys to hurry up and send the docs we requested at pre-trial. If possible, would you also get Mr S***h to send us more gems from the "Mr S***h's legal opinions" joke book. We enjoy them so much. The guy is wasted with you guys, he should be on stage with his own one-man comedy show.

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Hi WA

 

I am another proud member of the served by Pie & Beer club.

I am in QLD and need a good lawyer in WA and you seem to have the info. I will send you a PM shortly.

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SeeVee, whilst it would be sad to see you trudge off into the sunset, I think you ought to have a look at this note from the site team posted on another thread...

 

If you are an employee - or an associate - of a company involved in these threads, please identify yourself to the Site Team by reporting a post using the red triangle thingy, over there to the left of each post, or your posts may be removed pending a moderation review of the content.

 

Unless you are a lefty, that's the same side as your unoccupied hand. :)

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Hey Folks,

 

I've just become very interested in the contents of the forum having received (in the last 3 weeks) 4 letters from Pie and Beer (and Balls) and a letter from my AU credit card company suspending my card because of an "issue on my credit file" (or similar language). Top that off with 3 phone calls from Pie and Beer at work last week and I was starting to get very worried.

 

I'm going to follow the instructions listed here and, hopefully, I'll be able to get them off my back.

 

Thank you all for the work you've put in so far, as a newcomer, I can tell you that it's set my mind to rest to see other people having come out of the other side of this (relatively) unscathed.

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"having received .... a letter from my AU credit card company suspending my card because of an "issue on my credit file" (or similar language)."

 

Hey greeno,

 

I'm sure you wouldn't mind posting a copy of this letter would you?

 

No personal details of course...just that it sounds a little off track for a CC company to unilaterally "suspend" your account on the basis of an unrelated entry on your credit file even although you aren't in arrears / dispute / default with them.

 

Are you saying that they're asking you to continue paying your balance plus any ongoing interest etc but have withdrawn all your rights and privileges as a card holder? Surely that would verge on a breach of contract?

 

I could understand a CC company refusing to create a new account because of this - but to freeze an existing client's account for an alleged issue with a rival company's card?

 

Hmmmm? :confused:

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