Hi Skippy Sorry to mislead, they sent the pre trail a couple of days before they received the FOS 14 day resolution process. Still waiting to hear from Pie @ Beer.

Thanks for the kind welcome back. It sure is good reading the old thread again. Latest update, got my pre trail finally set yesterday, will be sending details as follow up to my FOS case. Looking forward to a trip out West,will be interesting to see how far P&B are prepared to go. And Bodgit you should know that the beers always cold up this neck of the woods.

Hi Oz Not sure what happened, just would not load up link and when I tried from the original WEB site just came up saying site not found. Thought I was on my own for a while there...

Hi All Its good to be back, whent through a few weeks there where could not open the link to this site. Thought Pie & Beer had shut it down!! Anyhow booming in loud and clear now. My situation so far: Signed on with our favorite legal team in Perth. They are in process of forcing Pie and Beers hand after I sent my defence in against the writ... S*** or get of the pot kinda thing. I have lodged the complaint with FOS so am now sitting back and waiting for it to kick off. Nice to see everyone in PFF are still going strong.

Hi WA I am another proud member of the served by Pie & Beer club. I am in QLD and need a good lawyer in WA and you seem to have the info. I will send you a PM shortly.

WA Newman, may you always have cold beer, loose shoes and a warm place to defecate. In answer to one of your questions from the horses mouth, so to speak, Pie and Queer requested my details through the Canadian DCA, the Canadian DCA then made a request to B'lays. B'lays sent data to canadian DCA and forward to Pie and fear. I Know this because A nice lady from B'Lays told me when I phoned up and asked how Pie and beer got my personnal data. At the time I wondered if she really knew the full implications of her disclosure. Though ignorace maybe claimed, B'Lays knew along the route and loop holes required to get the data to these sunburnt shores. Power to the people, stick it to the man.

Seevee Its refreshing to get another prospective, even one as flawed as yours. We can go on for hours arguing over this and that. I on the other hand am a more simple cove. I believe in my case that at the root of this is B'clays bank. I have filled a formal complaint holding them accountable for Pie and beers actions in regard to harrasment, intimidaion and personnel data transmittal. Now I ask you this Seevee, when Barks comes back and says they have no standing with Pie and beer, how will the man in the grey wig take it when he sees that on every pie and beer notice letter they name Sharkleys in big bold writing. I could go out in the street tomorrow and stop a complete stranger and demad that he owes me money. The problem is when actual documentation is required and when Barks is saying they don't know Pie and Beer from a bar of soap me learned judge is going to soon suspect a house of cards.

Hi All Seems we have mole in the pack The majority of us on here trace the debt back to B’Shark. I have read with interest that Barks has admitted overcharging with regard to bank charges (A Lady from Barks actually told me this). I have started a formal requested to have any overcharges repaid to me. Pie and Beer claim to, or use the name of Barks, when sending their notices; therefore I cannot see how they can chase me for money owed when I am chasing Barks for a similar amount. Also I made official complaint regarding the B’Shark Data controller and the handling of personnal data. Imagine my surprise when Barks informed that the debts were sold on to a Canadian DCA and Pie and beer then bought it from them! It would appear my personnel data is for global consumption. Now I may be mistaken, but on my letters from Pie and Beers they name Barks assigning them the debt not some Canadian outfit. Actually in all this unpleasantness Barks have been the only ones to give me honest answers. When I telephoned them to get their feelings about the conduct of Pie and Beer they basically stated that they no longer have any dealings with the debt and as far as they are concerned case closed. So if nothing else I want Pie and Beer to stop using Barks in their notice to default as this is not the case. Oh what a tangle web we weave when we try to deceive.... Over to you Seevee.

Hi Bodgit and All Seems I have been fighting a rear guard action. I never knew there were so many in the same situation. I have just received my updated CCR and it has been amended and the default listed by pie and beer has been removed. Briefly I saw an end to the misery of the last few months..... until I saw a writ & Summons listed. Seems those nice folks at Pie and beer entered it in Perth Magistrate court last week. As I have explained to VEDA, I have not reicieved any notification as yet regarding the summons. I checked and there is no CCJ outstanding in the UK, so seems an awfully big bluff on their part. One battle over but the war goes on.