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    • I used to post regularly in order to provide factual information (rather than advice) but got fed up with banging my head against a brick wall in so many cases when posters insisted black was white and I was writing rubbish. I have never posted anything which was untrue or indeed biased in any way.  I have never given 'advice' but have sought to correct erroneous statements which were unhelpful. The only username I have ever used is blf1uk. I have never gone under any other username and have no connection to 'bailiff advice'.  I am not a High Court Enforcement Officer but obtained my first 'bailiff' certificate in 1982. I'm not sure what records you have accessed but I was certainly not born in 1977 - at that time I was serving in the Armed Forces in Hereford, Germany (4th Division HQ) and my wife gave birth to our eldest.   Going back to the original point, the fact is that employees of an Approved Enforcement Agency contracted by the Ministry of Justice can and do execute warrants of arrest (with and without bail), warrants of detention and warrants of commitment. In many cases, the employee is also an enforcement agent [but not acting as one]. Here is a fact.  I recently submitted an FOI request to HMCTS and they advised me (for example) that in 2022/23 Jacobs (the AEA for Wales) was issued with 4,750 financial arrest warrants (without bail) and 473 'breach' warrants.  A breach warrant is a community penalty breach warrant (CPBW) whereby the defendant has breached the terms of either their release from prison or the terms of an order [such as community service].  While the defendant may pay the sum [fine] due to avoid arrest on a financial arrest warrant, a breach warrant always results in their transportation to either a police station [for holding] or directly to the magistrates' court to go before the bench as is the case on financial arrest warrants without bail when they don't pay.  Wales has the lowest number of arrest warrants issued of the seven regions with South East exceeding 50,000.  Overall, the figure for arrest warrants issued to the three AEAs exceeds 200,000.  Many of these were previously dealt with directly by HMCTS using their employed Civilian Enforcement Officers but they were subject to TUPE in 2019 and either left the service or transferred to the three AEAs. In England, a local authority may take committal proceedings against an individual who has not paid their council tax and the court will issue a committal summons.  If the person does not attend the committal hearing, the court will issue a warrant of arrest usually with bail but occasionally without bail (certainly without bail if when bailed on their own recognizance the defendant still fails to appear).   A warrant of arrest to bring the debtor before the court is issued under regulation 48(5) of The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992 and can be executed by "any person to whom it is directed or by any constable....." (Reg 48(6).  These, although much [much] lower in number compared to HMCTS, are also dealt with by the enforcement agencies contracted by the local authorities. Feel free to do your own research using FOI enquiries!  
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hello i had a problem with cash flow a few years ago and had to have a token electricity meter installed ,now i have paid all the arrears,

i contacted SWALEC and they told me i would have to be debt free for six months and then be credit checked..my cash flow situation is now fine and can set up a direct debit with no problem ,,talk about ;give a dog a bad name; is there any thing i can do .... many thanks

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IMHO it is an not unreasonable condition, I wonder if they might accept a an advance payment for example

 

When I moved into my first flat, albeit years ago now, that had a pre-payment meter and I had to pay £50 upfront to Swalec to cover any electricity charges.

 

I imagine the sum will be much greater now, but, if you can afford it then why not approach them with this suggestion?

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Have to say SWALEC's response is idiotic. Being debt free is meaningless when there is a prepayment meter. If you don't pay anything towards the electric, you don't receive any electric with a prepayment meter!

 

How can the OP prove she is a decent credit-risk now? The only way is by doing the credit-check now and having a credit meter fitted now if the OP passes the credit check, not in 6 months time. I would say SWALEC are just playing for time, hoping the OP will have forgotten about wanbting a credit meter in six months time. What difference will there be in six months time, the OP will still have the prepayment meter and not able to prove they are a good credit-risk!

 

I would suggest if the OP definitetuy wants a credit meter (and personally, in their situation, I would want one rather than continuing with the prepayment meter) that they demand a credit meter be fitted now or they will go to a different supplier. I would hyave thought some suppliers would be prepared to change the meter to a quarterly one upon becoming their customer at no cost to the OP.

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"I would hyave thought some suppliers would be prepared to change the meter to a quarterly one upon becoming their customer at no cost to the OP."

 

Maybe so but double and triple check the info as the advisor may give incorrect info because they are not sure, or because they want to get comission from putting through a contract.

The views I express here are mere speculation based on my experience. I am not qualified nor insured to give legal advice and any action you take will be at your own risk.

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Utility companies are very unwilling to remove pre payment meters these days, particularly if they were installed for debt related reasons, even when there is a new occupier.

 

 

bang on

 

i now have a perfect credit file

 

when i moved into a new flat, i requested a normal meter

 

 

no way jose was the response

 

more money in it for them with a pre payment meter and ready cash in there bank account

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They will do it if they have to though. I know people do get them removed sometimes. I would have thought if you tell SWALEC, you will change supplier if they don't remove it, then they will want to change it rather than lose you as a customer. Maybe this won't work - it does cost the supplier quite a bit of money to arrange an appointment and change a meter.

As I say, if that is the case, maybe its time to change supplier since they are not offering very good customer service.

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PS: I didn;t think SWALEC existed anymore or have one of the suppliets changed their name yet again?

As afr as I was aware, the main suppliers are EON, NPower, BGas, EDF, Scottish & Southern and Scottish Power

 

Nope, the South Wales Electricity Company still exists, albeit as part of Scottish and Southern Energy Group!! ;)

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Even if you change supplier there may be a charge to have the meter removed. I know with Eon you would have to be a customer of theirs for 12 months before they will let you have the meter removed and then there is a charge of £50 along with a credit check.

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With EON, if the meter was fitted for debt, it would never be removed, the fees charged for the meter exchange (currently £50) are purely to cover the cost of the work...

 

The prepayment tariff offered by EON is aligned with the standard credit meter tariff, so it isn't any more expensive than paying by quarterly cash/cheque

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NPower would also charge the remove the meter, about £60 I believe, however after 12 months they would remove it for free. As above NPower's prepayment charges are the same as credit, I believe there is one other company that is like this too but the name eludes me.

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I have the suspicion that EDf may look upon your situation favourably and may agree to fit a credit meter if you move to them.

I am with Ebico and I find their customer service to be excellent and their credit meter prices are competitive. Perhaps they may be prepared to fit a credit meter . I know they do stress they offer good deals to prepayment customers so may be not. But may be worth a try

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Ring a few companies and check, you've nothing to lose and, from what you've said, I'm sure you'll feel better if ur current company does not have your business.

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If Npower charged you that much for installing the meter, it surely must have been court costs that were added to fit it under a warrant as suppliers don't normally charge for fitting the meter as it is designed to help you tackle your debt that has built up.

 

The £250 to replace it with a credit meter could then possibly be a security deposit to deter you from building up a debt again by changing the meter?

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£250 does seem a lot for the work, how long had this been going on for? They fit a prepayment meter for free if you as, so it must've taken some time.

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