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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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Hi,

Firstly please excuse me if I have posted this in the wrong section, but the holiday bit appeared just to be about holiday companies, of which we are not, we own a static caravan that we rent out, we have had loads of good comments from our guests (and not one bad comment ever in the past 5 years), some of which have stayed with us on more than one occasion, however recently we had a family stay with us, who complained about the smell ,, not from our caravan but from the drains outside on the site, they said that the smell had affected their holiday, with them being sick and bad stomach upsets, they did not complain about the caravan, but about the smell. On them making this complaint I looked further and found that just before their holiday began, the sewerage plant that is over 10 miles away had a problem and shut down for a few days, a matter that was in the newspapers near the area where our caravan is sited, the family stated that they were worried for their childrens health due to this smell that caused them to be sick and have bad stomachs, but decided to stay the whole week so that the children were not upset, and not complain while they were there, Can I really be held responsible for a bad smell? I really am unsure what to do next.:idea:

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Hi,

Firstly please excuse me if I have posted this in the wrong section, we own a static caravan that we rent out, we have had loads of good comments from our guests (and not one bad comment ever in the past 5 years), some of which have stayed with us on more than one occasion, however recently we had a family stay with us, who complained about the smell ,, not from our caravan but from the drains outside on the site, they said that the smell had affected their holiday, with them being sick and bad stomach upsets, they did not complain about the caravan, but about the smell. On them making this complaint I looked further and found that just before their holiday began, the sewerage plant that is over 10 miles away had a problem and shut down for a few days, a matter that was in the newspapers near the area where our caravan is sited, the family stated that they were worried for their childrens health due to this smell that caused them to be sick and have bad stomachs, but decided to stay the whole week so that the children were not upset, and not complain while they were there, Can I really be held responsible for a bad smell? I really am unsure what to do next.:idea:

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My guess is they are after compensation. If they were really badly effected by the smell they would not have stayed the full week.

 

I would point out you cannot be responsible for smells outside the caravan, in the same way you are not responsible if it rained all week.

 

Express sympathy and give them the telephone number of the local water company who look after the sewerage plant, and say that is all you can do.

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Hi wesleyt43,

I have to sympathise with the family but you have no control over smell from another source so I cannot in a million years see how you can be held responsible and tell them the same.

 

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Hi,

thanks, have rang our site owner, and they have told me that no complaints were made during their stay either, surely a bad smell woulndy cause sickness and upset stomachs either, I will get back in touch with them and offer some advice, Thanks for your reply:)

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Hi, thanks for that, I do sympathise with them also, but I dont see how they cannot see the smell was not my fault, its just a bad thing that happened during that time that caused the smell, Thanks for responding:)

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surely a bad smell woulndy cause sickness and upset stomachs either

 

Some people, mainly young children, can be sick when confronted by strong smells. I do not know what it is called but my young nephew suffers.

 

Saying that, this case is not your fault as it is out of your controll.

 

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Hi, thank you for your response, its our first complaint and to be honest I got worried, but then again if the problem was my fault, then it would be the same as customers complaining if it rained for their stay.

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Agrree with all the comments - there was nothing you could do. If you feel they have genuinely been inconvenienced you could make a offer to give them an off-peak week in compensation for the disappointment they suffered, stating your offer is in the spirit of goodwill and in no way an admission you were responsible (a photocopy of the local press story would help too).

 

It was just one of those things, regrettable, but you wouldn't be liable if the power was out for 4 days, this was only a smell. A can of Airwick would have masked it.

 

Actually, I remember staying at a Campsite at Billing Aquadrome, outside Northampton. The stench of raw sewage was repulsive. We complained, only to be told it was from the nearby sewage farm, when temp and winds conspire, it really gets unpleasant. It was explained as a matter-of-fact, if we didnb;t like it, we could go!

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These people still seem to think on the lines of old medical beliefs, where it was thought that diseases were carried by bad smells. :lol:

 

Whilst it is true that a strong smell could cause one to gag and even feel sick, it can't actually cause gastroenteritis, which seems to be what they're actually complaining about.

 

I have to agree with everyone else, you have no power over something like that and whilst it is regrettable they didn't have the greatest of times, they did manage to stay all week, so it can't have been THAT bad. ;-)

 

Passing on the contact nos of the local water/sewage company and politely suggesting they send their concerns to them is a good idea. ;-)

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You cannot be held responsible for events that occur outside your control, we rent out our caravan and if I were you I would use your descretion with this person, but there is certainly no legal basis for you to have to refund any monies.

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Actually, I remember staying at a Campsite at Billing Aquadrome, outside Northampton. The stench of raw sewage was repulsive. We complained, only to be told it was from the nearby sewage farm, when temp and winds conspire, it really gets unpleasant. It was explained as a matter-of-fact, if we didnb;t like it, we could go!

 

I live in the country, most of the time surrounded by lush pasture, grazing cows, skippy lambs etc. - a picture of an English idyll...

BUT when the farmers muck-spread life becomes distinctly unpleasantly smelly, at least for a few days. However I still live here & it is no worse than the petrol fumes of the inner city where many more people live & do daily business.

 

I think your guests are just after compensation & need to get a life!

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Hi, I have passed this on to my daughter who has attempted to deal with it the best she can, the Mrs is in hospital after her op, yet after receiving abusive e-mails and threats my wifes friend who works in the same Solicitors office as the Mrs has joined, and took over, not as a legal threat, just to offer them legal advice, basically had they complained during their stay to someone , or sought medical help for the peple who were being sick they may of had a claim against the water company but not us, still we will not be refunding anyone, if there had been a problem with the caravan itself then that would have been different, but the only complaint was about the smell,

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