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    • They are absolute chuckleheads. You paid but because you entered a different car park site also belonging to them they are pursuing you despite them knowing what you had done. It would be very obvious to everyone, including Alliance that your car could not have been in two places at the same time. Thank you for posting the PCN so quickly making it a pity that you appealed since there are so many things wrong with it that you as keeper are not liable to pay the charge. They rarely accept appeals since that would mean they lose money but they have virtually no chance of beating you in Court. Very unlikely that they will take you to Court given the circumstances. Just in case you didn't out yourself as the driver could you please post up your appeal.
    • Jasowter I hope that common sense prevails with Iceland and the whole matter can be successfully ended. I would perhaps not have used a spell checker just to prove the dyslexia 🙂 though it may have made it more difficult to read. I noticed that you haven't uploaded the original PCN .Might not be necessary if the nes from Iceland is good. Otherwise perhaps you could get your son to do it by following the upload instructions so that we can appeal again with the extra ammunition provided by the PCN. Most of them rarely manage to get the wording right which means that you as the keeper are not liable to pay the charge-only the driver is and they do not know the name and address of the driver. So that would put you both in the clear if the PCN is non compliant.
    • Thank you so much. Yes, I wish I had done my research and not paid. It's all for the same car park. Here is one of the original PCNs, they are all the same bar different dates. PCN-22.03.24-1.pdf PCN-22.03.24-2.pdf
    • Hi Clou, Welcome to the Forum and thank you for reading first before you posted. There seems to be many problems with Cornwall and getting a signal to use your a phone which could be why these parking companies don't use alternatives. It is a shame you paid the first one as you would probably have not had to pay that one either.  Was the car park at which you paid the same parking company as the one sending you these PCNs? On the subject of PCNs could you please post them up so we can see if they comply with the Act.
    • 1 Date of the infringement 16th March   2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 22nd March   [scan up BOTH SIDES as ONE PDF- follow the upload guide] please LEAVE IN LOCATION AND ALL DATES/TIMES/£'s   3 Date received unsure   4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] UNSURE   5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes   6 Have you appealed? [Y] post up your appeal] Yes. Stated incorrect location was used in JustPark app as honest mistake. Rejected of course.   Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up Yes, rejected:   Site: Sea View Car Park, PL27 6SR Date of Event: 16th March 2024 We are in receipt of your challenge in relation to the above Parking Charge. Appeals must be handled in a fair and consistent manner, therefore, in order for us to cancel any Parking Charge; it is necessary for us to find that the Notice was issued in error. As per the clear and prominent signage at this location ('The Contract'), drivers agree to pay the sum of £100 if 'A valid ticket is not displayed face-up on the dashboard; enabling all of the printed information to be inspected'. 'The Contract' also details that there is an exception for those with a valid mobile session in place. Had the driver felt that the terms of the contract were unacceptable, they had the option to seek alternative parking. By remaining, the driver is deemed in law to be bound by the terms of 'The Contract'. Our photographic evidence confirms that a valid ticket was not displayed, and a search of our records confirms that no mobile session was in place for the registration XXXX at this location; therefore, your appeal is declined. We note that you have submitted evidence of payment; however, said payment is not for this location. It may be the case that you feel that the charge is unfair; however, there is no legal basis to now reject a charge that the driver has already agreed to pay. In light of the above, the sum £100.00 is payable by 21/05/2024 or £170 thereafter. Our internal appeals procedure is now exhausted, our decision is final; therefore no further correspondence other than payment will be addressed or responded to. Should you disagree with our decision, you may submit an appeal to 'The Independent Appeals Service'; full details are on the rear of this letter. 7 Who is the parking company? Alliance Parking LTD   8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Sea View Car park, Polzeath, Cornwall   For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. IAS Hi there, thanks in advance for any help on this.   Had 3 'PCNs' in post from Alliance for parking 3 times over a period of two weeks, unfortunately we were away from home so letters must have come over the two weeks but we received all at once if that makes sense. I realised I had used the wrong location on the car park app. The signs are not clear what the location is called (no code.) I only had receipts for two instances so I assume the first it didn't go through as had terrible signal. Paid £60 for one of the fines. Appealed the others saying it was an honest mistake and not very good signage (unfortunately submitted on their website and have no evidence of my appeal.) received the rejection of appeal as above.   Have now received the attached letter of claim. I have done some research for the amazing snotty letters but wonder if someone could kindly help me with writing one specific to my case? Thank you so very much in advance. LOC-alliance-1.pdf Apologies, 2nd page of LOC here. LOC-alliance-2.pdf
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i have just recieved a letter from ruthbridge stating that they are advising their client to commence bankruptcy proceedings, which may include costs and interest! we only owe them 839.88! it then goes on to say that in order to avoid this i should pay them £503.93 before the 13th aug. obviousley i dont have 500 spare cash oe i would pay them. also we are with a dmc ant the moment! what should i do?:(

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i could get it bellow 750 next week but im with a dmc and if i pay them to get it below 750 then they will know that i cud pay more than what im paying em thru dmc! what do you think is best? i have emailed my dmc but havnt had a reply as yet! dunno if they open on saturdays! ta:(

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Are there any unfair/illegal charges they have applied in the £839? If so deduct them, if it is then below £750 you have achieved your aim.

 

Yorky

 

Great idea, get a charges reclaim in and dispute the amount owing :)

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Ruthbridge are well known on these forums for being purveyors of DIAHORREA of both the verbal and the written kind. Totally ignore their empty threat, It would cost their so called client far more than you allegedly owe to make you bankrupt and even if they were foolish enough to follow the ropey advice of Derek then there is no guarantee they would even get back what was allegedly owed.

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I don't understand. The whole point of a DMC is that they handle this for you! I know most people on this forum do it themselves, but post the threatening letter onto the DMC and forget about it...as said above who is going to spend the money required to make you bankrupt when you're showing willingness to pay off your debt by being in a DMP int he first place! I spoke to mind recently about EGG and they have been handling and will fill in any court forms etc that get sent. Incidentally, they are not against this forum...!

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I don't understand. The whole point of a DMC is that they handle this for you! I know most people on this forum do it themselves, but post the threatening letter onto the DMC and forget about it...as said above who is going to spend the money required to make you bankrupt when you're showing willingness to pay off your debt by being in a DMP int he first place! I spoke to mind recently about EGG and they have been handling and will fill in any court forms etc that get sent. Incidentally, they are not against this forum...!

 

IMHO DMP are when it comes to crunch time are just that.

 

i am sure you aware that whatever way you deal with any issues are down to you, but and this the big but, you need to understand and take control.

 

i wish you a good evening and enjoy the weekend.

 

 

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I spoke to mind recently about EGG and they have been handling and will fill in any court forms etc that get sent. Incidentally, they are not against this forum...!

 

Just be careful, a DMC will normally get you to admit the debt and then you end up with a CCJ.

 

It is very very rare for a dmc to dispute a debt on your behalf

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??? Of course I admit my debts, that's not what this is about. This is about someone having the correct agreement in place to enforce a debt. Also, when it comes to court action it's perfectly OK (and infact wise) to admit you owe money but dispute the amount! Asking for a CAA to ensure it's been correctly implemented is not about admitting to a debt.

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OK, I will rephrase that. The DMC will admit that the debt is enforceable.

 

I would also disagree with you when you say that it is wise to admit a debt - that is never a wise thing to do unless the claimant has proved that the debt is enforceable.

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I meant in court in front of a judge. The issue in court is an enforceable credit agreement in place. Also, the fact that you can't agree a figure as in most cases the Creditor has not provided the necessary records for this to be ascertained. I am talking to my DMC about EGG and they are aware of CAG and the advice it gives. So far they've given me nothing but support and encouragement and if I decide to take EGG on they'll remove them form my plan accordingly. Its up to me to give the instruction.

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i phoned my dmc and they said that they would ring ruthbridge and sort them out, also they would ring me back and let me knw what they say! if they still insist on this course of action then i think i would get it below 750 just to be on the safe side!!! thanx everyone!:sad:

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