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:p Do you seriously think its ok hun? Am bit worried that ive gone and used something wrong or something - knowing my luck the bloomin' statutes etc will have changed like at school run time when i had to break from writing to get sprogs etc lol, i dunno. Hope it's ok - Have actually gotta work out who to complain to first now & how doh! Plus have to get on me other cabot horse and write to complain as they are ignoring that the acc is in dis with Cap one Double Doh! It's gotta be cuppa time [_]? Me brain hurts :D! Back in a sec hun x Ps - Fab news re: Will & our ole pals Lowells eh! ;)

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I do get a warm and fuzzy feeling when things go our way and knowing that we've been with lowwill(highwill) all the way makes it all the better.

 

I'm sure others will read that letter and make appropriate comments on it but to me it's bloody brilliant. Far better than I could ever attempt. I shall be stealing it and adapting it to my uses and of course passing it on.

As for the laws you stated, they all look relevant to me.

 

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Bumping for general concensus please as to whether the above is ok to send? Many thanks all. Mpols x

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I'll give you a bump as well

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Here's another one.

Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

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I expect that you comply with my request within 7 days of the date of this letter enclosing, if possible, appropriate and clear responses to the issues raised. All other correspondence will be duly recorded and forwarded with the aforementioned complaints.
I would remove 'if possible'.

 

The letter's fine but don't expect a meaningful response from Cabot. They will probably spout some hot air about "shall give the debtor a copy of the executed agreement (if any)" and try to state that that means it's okay to not have a compliant copy of the agreement.

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

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What does Bump mean??
It just moves a thread back up to the top of the forum so that more people will see it.

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

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When someone needs an opinion and none comes, they "bump" the post. This throws the thread up to the top of the new posts with the hope that some one will see it. By my answering your question also bumps it up which I'm sure Mpols will appreciate.

All she needs is for someone else to look at the letter she has written above and give their opinion.

 

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Hi Fox, Bobby, Fred & Rory Thanks for the 'bumps' boys (bday not til april tho :-):p Irony's a wonderful thing folks - Was bumped good and proper yest to the extent of mild concussion! (Hence no being online) - Long story short, Dropped towel when getting littl'un from bath, Bent to pick it up & 'Bumped' or rather 'massively smacked' (doh) head on edge of basin - ow! (The polite version ha), Ended up with delayed shock & mild discussion (plus a still throbbing bloomin headache)! Anyways, Thanks Rory, To be honest hubby sent letter this morn (rec del) & i had already ommitted the 'if poss' plus edited a couple of sentances on Fox's advice also. Am not really expecting too much from them, as you said already re the standard response, but we shall see. Will be complaining re this acc the same as the other that you advised on (cap one passed on whilst in dis) so will post any reply they bother to send so that if any of you have a chance maybe to look, will be great and then i will think on next stage from there. Best wishes, Take care Mpols x

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Hi Mpols,

AWW poor you. Hope the head gets better soon.

 

It's now a case of wait and see what your letter brings.

 

As you know, I'll be around to look at what comes back and try and give you the wealth(!) of my experience :)

BTW, my b/days in April too

 

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That sounds like the kind of clumsy thing I would do Mpols. Hope the heads better soon.

 

I used to have a friend who lived in an old house with low ceilings and wooden beams all over the place. I used to constantly come away with mild concussion.

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I would remove 'if possible'.

 

The letter's fine but don't expect a meaningful response from Cabot. They will probably spout some hot air about "shall give the debtor a copy of the executed agreement (if any)" and try to state that that means it's okay to not have a compliant copy of the agreement.

 

 

:rolleyes:Blimey Rory you really ARE psychic - Had letter this morn (will put up this pm/eve - no time now) Basically spouting the quote above & some other bits just want checked - Also tho, went back over their photocopied T&C's that came through as well & other bits i missed last time (prob wouldn't have made a diff) like "If you sign the attached application form" and their calls info that are "current as oct '07" Yet the form they sent me is signed '03 etc. Anyways, Hope everyone ok - Talk soon, Mpols x

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Keep that letter nice and handy Mystic,

Thats a wonderful piece of doctored evidence that the Judge would most likely need to see.

I can see the conversation now.

Judge ' Have you seen the agreement Mystic??'

Mystic 'You mean this one that they are trying to confuse the Honourable Judge with ? Your honour?'

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This is page one of latest letter received - opinions/advice gratefully received as always - Many thanks mpols x

 

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Morning Mpols,

Standard cr*p from Cabot. They are quite right to say they have complied with the request but would they rely on that in court? I think not.

 

I'd be giving them one last chance to comply by sending the cpr 31.16 letter and see if they can wriggle out of that.

I'm sure you've had a look but I'll post the link anyway:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/legal-issues/173201-why-you-shouldnt-use.html

 

Other than that I'm not sure. Personally I'm beliggerent enough to say that if that's all ya got, bring it on. See you in court. :)

 

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Cheers for prompt reponse hun - Will read up on that thread & link again as am not retaining the info very well at the mo & see if general concensus agrees with us. Lol! Hope u well. Mpols x

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to mysticpolso6, re cabot, that is the same letter from cabot that I was talking about on here yesterday that you are on about. Here is my solution, we each purchase each others debt for 10p in the pound then forget about it.

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I got reply through today saying they have temporaraly removed my wifes phone number from their records following my letter of complaint, this is a letter received the day after their first letter you know the standard waffle we are your mates, we want to help, this way to the showers ladies and gentlemen, you will be safely looked after and resettled in the east.

Just looks like they are trying to look like they are doing something useful whilst desperatly trying to see if they have any signed documents they think they can produce, and the tone of their letter has changed by saying we have a duty to pay what they say is owed.

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Hi fox & others, Hope everyone very well - am having a bit of a thought - Dunno really which way to turn with these now. Keep thinking yep - lisen to the advice & next stage maybe like you said fox the next letter then after that see them in court but whats it gonna achieve? They have my signature on an app form & statements etc that they sent me copies of so i can't really deny the debt is owed but at the same time the info that they DID send me is apparently unenforceable so would they really risk seeing me in court & afterall i can only be charged to pay what i can be judged to afford surely, with the poss of any charges etc removed first? Am certainly not in any position to save up & offer a reduced f&f (can't afford to save bug#er all at the mo :() Don't want to become a won't pay have always paid something until they decided all out of the blue that it wasn't enough and sent me a letter (pretty much a yr to the day of buying my acc) to tell me my agreement was terminated and asking for full balance which is what prompte me to get on here doh! Now, thanks to the wonderful fantastic support from fellow caggers i have taken bull by horns & cca'd almost all our OC/DCA's & so far had one file closed & not a single enforceable agreement received :eek: which is actually quite shocking to think why have i been putting up with the grief & rudery from them all this time & scrimping to pay as much as i can when so far they can't even prove to me they have the right to my cash regardless. So, I dunno hun - S'pose i'm just wondering whether would be better to offer them a £1 a month or something until they provide anything else & in the meantime complain to all & sundry about them & wait for them to pass me on or start chasing - at least then if THEY decided to see me in court i can show that i have been taking responsibility for the balance regardless of fact they not played ball. Aaaarghhhh! Have done nowt 'cept 2nd guess mesen the last couple days. Haven't got a spare tenner to do the sar thingy will have to wait a couple weeks to get that (sad or what). Am bit peeved i think, maybe & defo rambling so am gonna leave it at that & apologise now for the randomness of this post if it doesn't make sense and then prob delete it once have took a deep breath, made a cuppa & have read it back. Hmmmmm. xx

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