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    • so return of goods order etc etc read upload  scan pages to jpg, redact in mspaint. the convert to and merge to one mass PDF  read upload and use the online listed sites for all 3 stages. do you want to keep the car? i will guess this was a manual paper claimform direct from the co.court or was it org sent from salford bulk processing and has just got reaq ssigned?      
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    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue –  29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM 1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. 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If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
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A friend of mine who has helped me out in the past has told me he was recently "caught" doing 40mph on a 30mph road. However, he tells me that he saw no camera. I have driven down this road since a few times and there definately is no camera. The letter received from the Police says that this will be supported with photographic evidence.

 

My friend told me and I told him I would ask on this website which I knew which had helped me recently and was superb.

 

Bascially, he wants to know;

1) If there was no camera on the road should he challenge this

2) The Notice of Intended Prosecution says he has 28 days to respond but not to send payment or licence. He has lost the paper part of his licence and wants to know how long it takes when replying to this that they request the licence so that he can obtain a replacement when he gets paid.

 

Your help is, as always, much appreciated.

 

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A friend of mine who has helped me out in the past has told me he was recently "caught" doing 40mph on a 30mph road. However, he tells me that he saw no camera. I have driven down this road since a few times and there definately is no camera. The letter received from the Police says that this will be supported with photographic evidence.

 

My friend told me and I told him I would ask on this website which I knew which had helped me recently and was superb.

 

Bascially, he wants to know;

1) If there was no camera on the road should he challenge this

2) The Notice of Intended Prosecution says he has 28 days to respond but not to send payment or licence. He has lost the paper part of his licence and wants to know how long it takes when replying to this that they request the licence so that he can obtain a replacement when he gets paid.

 

Your help is, as always, much appreciated.

 

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Sounds like he might have been zapped by a mobile scamera. He may able to obtain pictures.

 

Alternately he might have been clocked by a car. Most traffic cops have cameras in them. Mind you if this is the case I would wonder why they didn't stop your friend at the time.

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hi Davey. how is the other issue going?

 

Again no offence to this forum but there is far more expertise on speeding on the 'PePiPoo' forum.

This forum seems to have a very high number of viewers but a bit thin on the ground for replies.

 

PePiPoo has far less viewers but more frequent replies and the speeding section is very busy.

 

sorry to evryone here but when i helped this guy before he was quick to respond to advice. What 'Pin' has said is the only helpful thing so far. i just don't think it hurts to point him in a direction to where he will get a lot of quick input. (they got me off my one and only speeding ticket! Yay).

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hi Davey. how is the other issue going?

 

Again no offence to this forum but there is far more expertise on speeding on the 'PePiPoo' forum.

This forum seems to have a very high number of viewers but a bit thin on the ground for replies.

 

PePiPoo has far less viewers but more frequent replies and the speeding section is very busy.

 

sorry to evryone here but when i helped this guy before he was quick to respond to advice. What 'Pin' has said is the only helpful thing so far. i just don't think it hurts to point him in a direction to where he will get a lot of quick input. (they got me off my one and only speeding ticket! Yay).

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hiya Pal, sorry for the lateness of the reply but I have been away on hols and then came back and had loads of work to catch up on!

 

I went to the County Court here and the Magestrate signed my Stat Dec. I spoke to the bank to request more detailed proof. They have told me they cannot give me more detail than they already have, so now its a sort of suck it and see situation. Its been well over the 19 business days, but I dont know what to do or where to go from here. Ive heard nothing from Newham nor the bailiffs. What do you suggest?

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He has lost the paper part of his licence and wants to know how long it takes when replying to this that they request the licence so that he can obtain a replacement when he gets paid.

 

I am sure if soemone has lost their licence (which can't be unique), the court will still add the points. In doing so a new license will need to be provided. If thatis the case he may be able to avoid paying for a replacement license (at least £17.50 I believe) and get a "free" new license via the court.

 

Small silver lining if true I know, but every little helps if he gets a fine too. :)

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The situation is that your friend must respond to the NIP/S.172 request within 28 days of it being delivered. This is totally separate from any speeding offence.

 

If he admits to being the driver, they will likely send a COFP (Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty) valid for 28 days - they can take no further action for the offence whilst the COPF is extant. If he accepts this, he will need to pay is £60 and surrender both parts of his licence for points. If he fails to do this, the COPF is voided and he will be summonsed to Court.

 

As he obviously has a photocard licence, he can request (and pay for) a duplicate on-line - it takes about a week to get the licence by this method.

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I am sure if soemone has lost their licence (which can't be unique), the court will still add the points. In doing so a new license will need to be provided. If thatis the case he may be able to avoid paying for a replacement license (at least £17.50 I believe) and get a "free" new license via the court.

 

Small silver lining if true I know, but every little helps if he gets a fine too. :)

 

No. He is required to surrender both parts of his licence to the Court. If he fails or is unable to do so, a separate offence is created and his licence may be revoked until it is surrendered.

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No. He is required to surrender both parts of his licence to the Court. If he fails or is unable to do so, a separate offence is created and his licence may be revoked until it is surrendered.

 

Oh well, so much for trying to look on the bright side. :(

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Thanks for your replies. The problem is, he already has 9 points and if he loses his licence he basically loses his life because of his job etc.

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Thanks for your replies. The problem is, he already has 9 points and if he loses his licence he basically loses his life because of his job etc.

The court might take pity on him because of his job.

 

It might be worth your friend getting a brief and making an appearance in court.

 

A colleague of mine was on 9 points and got caught talking on his mobile and speeding (92Mph on the motorway but in the days before talking on a mobile was a specific offence).

 

He went to court and got 2 points plus a large fine in lieu of the extra point thanks to his brief putting the case to the court that he had a wife and child to support etc.

 

BTW he was a reformed character after that and was very conscious of driving below the limit (at least until he lost some of the points:-D).

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I agree with Pin. Much the same advice as the last post on Pep.

 

Keep responding to their questions there and IME they will go into more specific detail about what to do. They have so many cases flying through that you have to keep yourself prominent. You're already drifting towards the bottom of the page, LOL.

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if the current 9 points were not related to speeding offences, then i believe that an option to pay £95 and attend a speed awareness course without incurring the 3 penalty points would be offered.

 

however, somehow i dont think this is going to be the case for this offender, unfortunately.

 

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Bear in mind that job requirements to drive are not always a "guaranteed" way to plead mitigation when there is the threat of a ban - it is argued that the driver knew the possible consequences of his actions, including a potential ban and losing of job, when performing the actions.

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if the current 9 points were not related to speeding offences, then i believe that an option to pay £95 and attend a speed awareness course without incurring the 3 penalty points would be offered.

 

Doesn't matter what he other points are for. What matters is that the offender has not attended a course within the last three years

 

however, somehow i dont think this is going to be the case for this offender, unfortunately.

 

Neither do I as the guidelines for offering a course for an offence in a 30 mph limit is 35 - 39 mph; and the OP's friend is above this band.

 

(at least those are the figures quoted by TVP on their NIPs)

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Well he should have thought about that before breaking the law. Just because there is no visible camera doesn't meant it's all of a sudden legal to go at whatever speed you want. The fact that he's on 9 pts already and yet he still did this stupid and potentially dangerous act shows his disregard and lack of respect for other roadusers, and he deserves punishment, irrespective of how that affects his personal circumstances. It will be for the safety of all others on the road that he is punished.

 

I think it's disgraceful that people are treated with leniency in driving offences just because they rely on driving for their job. That's basically giving these people a licence to breach the rules of the road and drive how they want. This loophole needs to be closed.

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Why are you opening a thread that has been dormant since October 2008?

 

so he can have a rant over something that died a year ago. :)

 

CAG as far as I know, is here to help each other without moralising. If a CAGger doesn't approve of what someone may be seeking help and/or impartial advise over, then they don't have to post in that particular thread.

 

There is no need to launch into an attack on someone when they simply want factual advise regarding a particular situation.

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Well he should have thought about that before breaking the law. Just because there is no visible camera doesn't meant it's all of a sudden legal to go at whatever speed you want. The fact that he's on 9 pts already and yet he still did this stupid and potentially dangerous act shows his disregard and lack of respect for other roadusers, and he deserves punishment, irrespective of how that affects his personal circumstances. It will be for the safety of all others on the road that he is punished.

 

I think it's disgraceful that people are treated with leniency in driving offences just because they rely on driving for their job. That's basically giving these people a licence to breach the rules of the road and drive how they want. This loophole needs to be closed.

 

Do you want me to hire you a cherry picker to help you down of your extremely high horse, you bore.

 

I think its disgraceful that the Police have introduced performance criteria indicators, which means they must issue a certain amount of tickets, producers, conduct spot checks etc each month or else they could face disciplinary action (fact - a colleague of mine is engaged to a police officer). I also think that its disgraceful that because of this I was issued with a FPN for resting my head on my arm and scratching my ear and not, as it says on the FPN, "using a mobile phone whilst driving". £60 and 3 points, which could result in a ban. Fighting it all of the way.

 

Close the topic.

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If a CAGger doesn't approve of what someone may be seeking help and/or impartial advise over, then they don't have to post in that particular thread.

 

So I suppose if someone had committed a murder or a rape and was coming on here remorselessly admitting to the offence and asking how to get off on technicalities, everyone would flock to their assistance too.

 

Speeding is no different in that it is illegal and shows complete and utter disregard for human life.

 

I find that mobile phone/scratching your ear story very hard to believe as the police would not have prosecuted you unless you were actually doing it; and if you were falsely accused it would be easy enough to prove you weren't on your phone!

 

If there are no crimes being committed, no the police aren't going to go and criminalise innocent people just to meet targets. Under the constitutionally entrenched doctrine of the rule of law, you CANNOT be charged with doing something if there is no law against it. So the theory that the police must meet targets even if there are no actual offences taking place is rubbish. If there is no crime, there will be no prosecutions.

 

I do not have any expertise in parking/traffic offences so I don't usually frequent this area, but it is absolutely disgraceful when people who have been undeniably speeding attempt to get off the offence they know they have committed. You've done the crime, now do the time.

 

The CAG should be helping people who have been mistreated in some way by a business/organisation/police etc. It should NOT be helping criminals to get off punishments for the abhorrent offences they have committed. For this reason I completely object to anyone who comes on here after blatantly speeding and trying to get away with it.

 

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The CAG should be helping people who have been mistreated in some way by a business/organisation/police etc. It should NOT be helping criminals to get off punishments for the abhorrent offences they have committed. For this reason I completely object to anyone who comes on here after blatantly speeding and trying to get away with it.

 

The end.

 

Remember until actually convicted these people are innocent of a crime. In a number of cases people have been caught bang to rights and have been advised to plead guilty by members of this forum. This was the case in this thread - you seem to conveniently overlook that fact. Some people accused of these crimes are actually innocent although they may appear guilty. The cops frequently don't get it right. Are you saying they aren't entitled to advice?

 

I would go as far as to suggest that your post is a highjack of a dormant thread and inflamatory to the regular poster on this thread to say the least. You could at least of the decency to start your own thread (cross-referencing this one if needed).

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So I suppose if someone had committed a murder or a rape and was coming on here remorselessly admitting to the offence and asking how to get off on technicalities, everyone would flock to their assistance too.

 

Speeding is no different in that it is illegal and shows complete and utter disregard for human life.

 

Wow! so you think using a mobile in a car is the same as murder! I hope you're not a judge or magistrate passing the same sentence for both offences. :)

 

I find that mobile phone/scratching your ear story very hard to believe as the police would not have prosecuted you unless you were actually doing it;

really?

 

and if you were falsely accused it would be easy enough to prove you weren't on your phone!

yes and as ever, it is becoming more and more common in the country that we have to PROVE our innocence, when the law is supposed to say it is for the authorities to prove you are guilty.

If there are no crimes being committed, no the police aren't going to go and criminalise innocent people just to meet targets.

 

Under the constitutionally entrenched doctrine of the rule of law, you CANNOT be charged with doing something if there is no law against it.

of course you can get charged with whatever the police choose to charge you with. Whether they get a conviction is another matter altogether.

So the theory that the police must meet targets even if there are no actual offences taking place is rubbish. If there is no crime, there will be no prosecutions.

 

I do not have any expertise in parking/traffic offences so I don't usually frequent this area, but it is absolutely disgraceful when people who have been undeniably speeding attempt to get off the offence they know they have committed. You've done the crime, now do the time.

 

The CAG should be helping people who have been mistreated in some way by a business/organisation/police etc. It should NOT be helping criminals to get off punishments for the abhorrent offences

"abhorent offences" wow, your language gets stronger and stronger

 

they have committed. For this reason I completely object to anyone who comes on here after blatantly speeding and trying to get away with it.

with respect then, there seems little point in you spending much time on CAG.

 

The end.

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so all illegal acts are equivalent to murder. ever dropped a piece of litter in your life ?

 

I've never dropped a piece of litter, no.

 

Not all illegal acts are equivalent to murder. But the ones that can kill are up there.

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Speeding is a crime as defined by legislation and case law. Prosecution of speeding is dealt with in the same manner. If the specific rules and regulations are not followed by those enforcing them, then no crime exists. Therefore the individual is not a criminal, therefore your trite and witless argument is turned on its head.

 

Notwithstanding the fact that you attempt to draw moral equivalence between speeding, a technical offence, and murder or rape, which are moral crimes.

 

You show complete and utter disregard for reason, logic, ethics, morality and the rule of law.

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