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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.    Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.   The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved.  Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
    • You can use a family's address.   The only caveat is for the final hearing you'd need to be there in person   HOWEVER i'd expect them to pay if its only £200 because costs of attending will be higher than that
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hi all, can i jump on this thread?

 

I had a SD from Capquest for an Egg card - received it last week - by firstclass post, below I have a few facts and queries listed so they can be answered seperately

a. The amount owed to Capquest is around 9k - default balace was £7174 "deliquent date" is 05/04

b.the form was sent by 1st class post - no other visits have been made to my knowledge ( im rarely in but live with parents)- and I have no letters saying "we have tried to deliver by hand"

c.i understand i can ask for the SD to be set aside - i have not yet asked for a CCA, or statements etc - can i still ask for set aside or must I ask for CCA?

d. what is set aside? You mena written off? Or just court hearing delayed?

e. if we claim costs how much are we talking here - roughly? Will capquest pay me directly or take off balance outstanding?

f. I have never entered into correspondance with Capquest - indeed i have ignored all my creditors since 2004

 

 

are we sure wether these are just empty threats yet - ive seen a few threads suggesting this

 

thanks for any additonal help - i have read the other threads but stil had these queries - maybe I am just a bit slow - sorry!

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Hi Tiger's Wood and welcome to CAG :)

 

It's better for you to start your own thread, that way replies don't get mixed up.

 

You need to get the SD set aside ASAP. There are likely to be charges on the account and that's a valid reason. Call your local county court to see if they deal with these and pop along to pick up the forms. It's free and you can swear the affi. at the court. The staff should help with all this.

 

When you've got yout thread started, link back to this one and we'll come and help :)

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ok so i dint get to phone the court and 18 days are up today (posted to me on 31st july) i am off work so going to the court this morning - would i just go to front desk nd sk for forms? would i then get to see sommeone? would i swear the "affi" today?

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Hi Tigers Wood,

 

If there are unfair charges on the account, and there usually are in these cases you can ask for a set aside on that basis.

 

If the time limit today then you must contact a court that with deals with SD's now, or you run the risk of a judge not granting a set aside.

 

Get the set aside sorted, and then send off a request for a copy the executed agreement that this debt refers to.

 

Beau

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ok, so after a few weeks, I received yesterday a date to attend court for the set aside, now will i need legal representation here? I cant afford that!

Will capquest actually come?

 

I also received a reply from Capquest to the CCA request - they replied saying my "account is on hold for 28 days" so, its over the 12 days for them to supply my CCA - what happens here now? Are they in breach?

 

Also If judge does not grant set aside on 30th Sept when i'm court - is that it? Am i then on my way to bankruptcy?

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Hi

No you dont need a solicitor have a read of a few of the threads that have dealt with Stat demands especially the ones in the DCA legal successes heres a link to one http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/dca-legal-successes/157856-fizzbuzz-1st-credit-court.html

 

 

 

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ok guys need help urgently got the set aside hearing tomorrow (30th) any body on here late?

couple of things to mull over:_

I sent off my CCA request on 18th August - I had a letter back last week saying the have requested in from Egg - this is now 42 days since I requested it and still not received - whats the deal here?

Also they have replied to my set aside request through the court they have wrote a letter to the court and copied me in saying the following - this is copied verbatim inclusive of grammatical errors!

 

"We acknoweldge receipt of the application to set aside the statutory demand.

Capquest Investments Ltd are the creditor by virtue of the debt being assigned to them by Egg banking PLC. IN order to deal fully with the application to set aside wewill need information from the original creditor which we may not be able to obtain in time to prepare and serve evidence in opposition to the application.

 

We are also mindful of of Paragraph 6.5(4)(b) of the insolvency rules which provide that if the debt is disputed on the grounds which appear to the court to be substantial then the court may grant the application .

 

We do not accept the debt is not due but in view of the time considerations and use of the courts time we ask that the application be granted but with no order as to costs. If, as we anticipate we subsequently obtain information which enables us to prove that the debt is due we will proceed by issuing a claim in teh county court which will allow the applicant the opportunity to defend the claim"

 

 

 

 

SO......are they admitting defeat on Bankruptcy and saying to the judge grant the set aside???

 

Whats the next steps guys and girls?

And thanks for getting me this far!!!!!!!!

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What they are saying in effect is that they cant/havent got the CCA and are not opposing the set aside application ......... I would however still go to court tomorrow have a read of this http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/dca-legal-successes/156970-omg-connaught-first-credit-5.html#post1702154 and seriously think of asking for costs :)

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Remember you are totally disputing the debt....

 

Non production of a valid CCA, no statements, no default notices, no notices of assignment....

 

They are using the Insolvency Service as a debt collection tool....which is frowned upon...

 

Use this piece here and quote it to the judge tommorrow...

 

As a lone parent/low income family with limited finances I approached a solicitor by phone and asked for an estimate on how much it would cost. I was given an estimate of 3 to 6 hours at £170 per hour to prepare the Application (£510-£1020) plus extra for attending the court.

 

I respectfully request that the court give consideration to awarding these costs on the indemnity basis or, in the alternative, on the standard basis as I believe, in any case, that they have been proportionately and reasonably incurred and/or are of a proportionate and reasonable amount.

 

In support of this request, I would also like to refer the court’s attention to the authority of the High Court in the case of:-

 

Hammonds (a firm) v Pro-Fit USA Ltd [2007] EWHC 1998 (Ch)

 

In this case, Mr Justice Warren confirmed that it was usual for an indemnity award to be made:-

 

27 So far as disputed debts are concerned, the practice of the court is not to allow the insolvency regime to be used as a method of debt collection where there is a bona fide and substantial dispute as to the debt. Save in exceptional cases, the court will dismiss a petition based on such a debt (usually with an indemnity costs order against the petitioner).

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Best of luck today - ask for costs, especially seing as they are admitting that they cannot (at this time ) provide a CCA!

 

They have issued the SD in the hopes that it will scare you into paying up, you have had no choice but to go through the court to set it aside and these DCAs should be made to pay for this.

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Advice given is my opinion only, I am not a legal or financial expert (far from it).

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Good luck. They won't turn up, so the floor will be yours. Get those costs :D

When you've had all the help you need, make sure you stick around to help others too!

Just think, if everyone left the site after they'd got their help, there might not be anyone left the next time YOU come back needing more assistance!!!!!!!

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Interesting that they even bothered to mention to granting the application but no order for costs. Maybe this policy they have of issueing SD's like confetti is starting to cost them! :)

 

Good luck and go for the costs. Maybe they should have checked that they had a right to enforce the debt before they issued you with a SD.

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