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    • I have recently found myself in financial difficulties and with the help of forum members in another thread regarding this, I think I can get myself sorted. My query here is how to deal with a Cifas marker that has been logged against me by one of my creditors for "evasion of payment". Admittedly yes I did get a £5000 loan with them and have not paid any payment but at the start of the year, which is when the loan landed, I realised I was going to be struggling to repay that and other debts and I contacted MCB to ask if there was any way I could extend the loan from 24 months to 36 months. I explained my situation and that I was going with a DMP and asked them if they could help me with this. They did not reply. I then emailed them again a month later explaining that my DMP was going ahead and could they confirm that the direct debit was indeed cancelled. Again, they did not reply. The DMP fell apart and so did everything else thereafter. My bank withdrew my overdraft and said I could not stay with them (I thought initially that it was because of the DMP) so I opened another account (Starling) and set up all my direct debits etc with the new bank. A month into being with the new bank, they contacted me and said they were closing my account in three months. So I started applying for other basic accounts and every single one of them either refused or revoked.  Through the help in the other thread, I requested a SAR from Cifas and discovered that I have this marker against my name for "evasion of payment". I have logged a complaint with MCB on the advice of other forum members, but my query really is do you think the marker is fair given that I did ask them for help and I did explain that I was going to be struggling financially to repay the loan over the original two years, and is there any way that I can get it removed? I fully admit that I have yet to make a payment to them and I suppose in my naivety and panic I thought if I emailed them early on they could extend the loan and help me out, but they didn't even reply  I did manage to open an account with Monzo before the marker was in place, but I am very concerned that if Monzo do what Starling did, I will have no bank account to pay my bills or get my wages paid into.  Realistically based on the information I have given here, what do you think my chances are of getting this marker removed? Any help/advice on this would be greatly appreciated x
    • Thank you dx, that is what I intend to do now. I have gone through all the SAR documents, a lot of which I am seeing for the first time! As per my previous post #116 letters and statements alleged to have been sent to me, as recorded on their system notes I have not received. Letters I have sent requesting information and account statements have not been recorded as being received by them, all were sent either by Recorded or Special Delivery. I have all the proof you menrtioned from my files for payments and from their SAR info for fees added. Thanks t
    • In my experience (not with car payments) but with many other things, my partner has been ill and signed off in the past and we have been unable to meet various commitments.  Naturally if you ring the call centre they are going to fob you off and tell you you must pay, that's why that never ever works. I would obtain a note from her GP listing all her health issues plus medications plus side effects, then write to the finance company with a copy of it, explaining the situation, as you have here, asking for a payment holiday. Perhaps mention that the car is very much needed for hospital appointments etc. It's likely the finance company would rather you pay till term end than, chase you for money they will never see, and sell the car at auction for a loss,  You can search some of my threads going back years, advising people to do this for Council Tax, Tax Credits, HMRC, Even a solicitors company and it always works, because contrary to popular belief people are reasonable.
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    • Thank you! Your head is like a power bank of knowledge.  Her health issues are short term, due to a relationship breakdown she took it pretty hard and has been signed off work on medication for 3 months. She only started her job in February 24 so does not qualify for any occupational sick benefits, which is where the ssp only comes in. (You will see me posting a few things over the coming days, whilst I try and sort some things for her)  I sat with her last night relaying all this back and she does want to work out a plan, she was ready to propose £100 for the next 3 months and then an additional £70 per month onto of her contractual to "catch up" but Money247 rejecting the payment holiday and demanding £200 thew her, which is why I came on here.   
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Well they did send a CCA a few years back ..Every one on cag said it was ligit ..but then there was a big debate wether they were ligit as a lot of ppl had them too ,and they looked leaflet form ,,So none the wiser wether is was or wasnt ..nothing has been payed on the debt since 07 or 08 ..Yes I understand it would reset the clock

 

 

As Citizen B above, can you direct us to a copy of the agreement? (scan, etc)

 

And did you get a default notice?

 

I'd be inclined to let them attempt court on it - you can always agree to pay a fixed sum if they come up with the goods, and you can get that sorted by the court rather than them hassling you to pay more than you can afford

 

But 2 things stand in the way of that court order:

 

1) that the agreement copy isn't up to standard (likely)

 

2) that the default notice wasn't served in the correct manner (HIGHLY likely)

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If it just said "rectify in X days" no, thats not sufficient

 

Do you still have the default notice/copy/scan?

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OK

 

Will look at the DN tomorrow

 

Cheers

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I can't open your photobucket image but seem to recall a number of us had similar Cap One agreements from 2005 - 2006. Mine is a clear cut & paste...with signature, probably from an application form. I'm not sure what the policy here is on challenging agreements, however Andy in the CAG legal section has successfully seen off creditors/DCA's on a number of occasions via this route.

 

You could always send them a CPUTR request, that should flush them out as they have to be careful how they respond.

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I cant open the image either.

 

Can you follow the instructions below and post up as a pdf, please :)

 

Dx100 – Instructions on uploading pdfs

scan the required letters/agreements/sheets

as a picture file

remove all pers info inc barcodes etc using paint

but leave all figures and dates.

goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites

convert the image to pdf format.

or ir you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

NB:you can set where it goes in the post by hitting insert inline.

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OH - Lowell/I and E/student finance regarding a Capital One debt... If you can get into this link you will see the CCA here( I dont know why it wont Highlight),,It will be in my old threads..Yes 2005 was what my OH had,,Will look for DN and NOA tonight..I know we had the DN from Cap1 ..Def not right if giving 23 days to rectify

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Update on this!!

 

Cut a long story short

 

..Lowells sent OH a CCA a few years back,

Caggers said was ligit..

OH offererd £5 per month

..Lowells ignored.

.Never heard nothing for a couple of years just the odd ThreatOgram

 

,,Last Monday A process Server delievered a SD .

 

.OH decided to Re offer the £5 per month .

.I emailed DWlegal and was told they cant deal with me becoz of Data proteaction And to get OH to Ring them

..I emailed back and said OH doesnt do Data protection on the phone ,

and would therefor get OH to email them

 

..He emailed them told them his DOB

..They have emailed him back saying they want him to send in ID and a letter with Signature on it

WTF these stupid ppl playing at ??

 

Lowells have been sending letters here for over 4 years

and have never asked for a sig or ID .

 

.Where do we go from here ?

 

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Someone is playing silly b*ggers.. They would have been more than happy to discuss on the phone.. but for emailing, he needs to confirm who he is ??

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UPDATE ON THIS !!

 

OH decides not to set aside SD

 

,,He has been trying to liase with bwLegal via email

 

..They are not having any of it..

 

They have sent him a letter today asking him to ring them to discuss the matter further..

 

( he is not phoning and told them that by email)

 

they said they will issue A Bankruptcy Petition on Monday 3rd September if they havent heard from him .

 

.By them making him bankrupt they wouldnt get a thing..Have offered £5 a month on this account since 2008 ..every letter has been ignored..all he ever gets in threats..

 

 

shall he send an email again saying he is trying to discuss the matter by email but is being ignored ,,??

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Would a judge make some1 BR that really didnt have any Assets but has tryed for the last 4 years to pay £5 a month to Lowells...Im really getting fed up with Lowells and now Dw legal ..

 

Ignoring emails and only want to talk on the phone..they will be Petitioning for BR on 3rd Sept if nothing is sorted..Have been trying to sort but getting nowhere fast

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Erm, why has OH decided not to set aside ?

 

Your response should be that you have made several attempts to contact them - however they are refusing to communicate. You could also add that as you have been trying to communicate for nearly 4 years, you find it rather disengenous they are now claiming that they need identification if he communicates in writing/email but wont require it if he telephones.

 

That it would appear they are not interested at all in trying to come to an arrangement only to intimidate and bully.

 

 

Perhaps that would be a good reason to attempt a set aside - that despite all your best efforts, this company refuses to communicate.

 

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It is not really the judge making an individual BR, a creditor or creditors can petition for an indiividul to be declared BR by proving the debtor is totally unable to pay their debts.

 

Have you received a statutory demand yet.?

A little more detail will help others to advise you.

 

Forgete-mails write and keep a paper trail, and don't agree

to telephone conversations.

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Thanks for replyin.,,To late to setaside now..he just said what will be will be..he has offered to pay so didnt see the point in setting asi ..Once it gets to the BR stage..will he be able to have his say and Tell the judge what has been happening,??

 

OH will email dwlegal but not Ms javis has she is the one that is ingnoring emails but wants telephone calls ..And explain to them that emails have been sent to sort this out but Ms Javis has choosen to ignore,,Even the letter sent today said to TELEPHONE her ..What are these people like..Then just wait for the petition I guess

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Emails can be printed off..not wasting another penny on the price of stamps..Sd was deleivered ..OH said to leave it, what will be will be ..He cant do anymore than he has done ..He has offered what he can afford ,and they not intrested ..they just want him to ring to bully him into paying more

 

Thanks for feedback Brig

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I believe Lowell may have been censured for using SDs and the BR system as a debt collection tactic, how much are they after?

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Who is Ms Javis ?

 

I have to admit, I do find your OH's faith in the British Justice system, touching, if a little naive ! Hopefully, he will have a judge who will listen and put this company back in their cage - I do hope so.

 

Do you have assets - property, car, designer watches, etc ? If not, then I guess his statement that they wont get anything if they present the petition, a rather interesting one :)

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