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2 mins..:eek:

 

 

I wasnt expecting any at all :D

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BOO HOO I can't come. Earlier in the week I saw a teensy glimmer of light and wondered if I could sneak away for a day or two, but there is really no way that I can go at the moment, and that is absolutely definite. I will have to rely on my Manc and London drinking buddies to have a drink to absent friends.:lol:

 

Still we are getting lots of visitors at the moment and I'm getting to see all my nieces and nephews who are scattered far and wide. My dear old Mum is in her element seeing all her grandchildren, which is lovely. She hasn't seen one of her grandsons for nearly 6 years and he's coming to see her in the next couple of days.

 

Family comes first but don't count me out for the next one. I'll have some catching up to do then. :D

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Yes, you are in Ga Ga Land. Lose the focus on your hatred of Scousers, concentrate on your thread, and stop running away. Impress us all if you can. JOBS? You couldn't come close.

 

Tide

 

Now Tidey,don't bite!! :D Remember our discussion in Wetherspoons, hmmm? :rolleyes: ;-)

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Now Tidey,don't bite!! :D Remember our discussion in Wetherspoons, hmmm? :rolleyes: ;-)

 

The one about your avatar? :o

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PHEWWW I saw TT had posted and panicked thinking I had another job :D

 

 

I knew you were listening Barra, Painty's talking about the tasty private bit.

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Ooooooooooh I wasn't listening .. what did I miss .. tell me tell me

 

Painty, I promise to behave, honest.cool.giflaugh.gif

 

IMPOSSIBLE

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Ooooooooooh I wasn't listening .. what did I miss .. tell me tell me

 

Couldn't possibly post details of that or I'll get moderated!

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I have no idea Pov, but i will pm you with my mobile so if you do come over we can meet you. ;)

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does any one know if i pop over to say hi whether i need to be signed in or anything ?? :)

 

I have heard of day visitors but don't know much about it .. do you want the phone number so you can ring them and ask ?

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I'm booked on the following coach journeys.....

 

 

Passengers: 1

 

Depart: London to Prestatyn (Pontins)

Leave: 10:30 08 Feb 2008

Arrive: 17:40 08 Feb 2008

 

Return: Prestatyn (Pontins) to London

Leave: 10:35 11 Feb 2008

Arrive: 18:00 11 Feb 2008

 

I'll post this on the other link as well......

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You should post on the other meet thread aswell.

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You have no idea how much I wish I was there now. I can well imagine how mad it was.;)

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