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    • An update to this case as I’ve not been on in a while.    I am still awaiting a charging decision in the case. The two police officers involved have said their personal belief is a section 47 ABH charge is the most likely outcome but this isn’t a sure thing of course.    The EA certificate from the issuing court has now lapsed. The court have refused to recertify him until they’ve had a hearing in to the case, and the district judge has issued orders to surrender all evidence, footage, photos etc.    I have done so promptly.    the EA, not so much . Equita have claimed they cannot provide his bodycam footage as the camera he was wearing is the EA personal one not one of theirs.   the EA has claimed he has asked Equita and the police for the footage as he claims he doesn’t have it.    the police have confirmed they didn’t seize his camera and they don’t have it.    so they are basically pointing the finger at each other all the while failing to comply with the district judges order to provide all evidence they intend to rely on at the rescheduled hearing.    The district judge has stated the hearing for his certification will NOT be the hearing for my complaint as there is no charge as of yet, and just as to whether he should be recertified or not.    I’m not 100% on why that can’t be done at the time, but I’m not about to question a judge…..      
    • Thanks FTMDave, I like the cut of your jib - I'll go with that and obtain proof of postage. Encouraging that NPE have never followed through and seem to blowing hot air, let's see where they go after this   Regards
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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.   House or Flat? Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. Lenders have a legal obligation to sell the property for the best price they can get. If they feel the offer is low they won't sell it, because it's likely the borrower will say the same. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Again, points as above. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) Why serve a delapidations notice? If it's in the terms of the lease to maintain the property to a good standard, then serve an S146 notice instead as it's a clear breach of the lease. I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. Enfranchisement isn't something that can be "voided", it's in the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 that leaseholders have the right to buy the freehold of the property. It's normal, whether it is a "normal" leaseholder or a repossession with a leasehold house, to claim this right of enfranchisement and sell the property with said rights attached and the purchase price of the freehold included in the final completion price. That's likely what the mortgage provider wished to do. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at? Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. So this is dealt with then. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.  You wouldn't vary a lease through a lease extension. You'd need a Deed of Variation for that. This may be done at the same time but the lease has already been extended once and that's all they have a right to. The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved. The lease has already been extended once so they have no right to another extension. It seems pretty easy to just get the lawyer to say no and stick by those terms as the law is on your side there. Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. Again, order them to revert it as they didn't have permission to do the works, or else serve an S146 notice for breach of the lease. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
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PILON is only taxable if provided for in your contract. Therefore, we could assume that your employer is paying contractual PILON, due to the payment being taxed.

 

But where we need detail is as per that holiday payment... is your employer paying 7 days, or 5 days... ie. if you work a 5 days week and then be off at the week end, then a week's work is 5 days, thus taking a week off would mean 5 days holidays, plus 2 days off (ie. weekend)... and if it is the case, your EDT would be 31 May 2011, date of that letter...

 

I would be shocked if the PILON is in the contract of employment, i know people who have been there 30 years and never had a contract or employment particulars, if i requested one i don't think they could provide one.

 

As for the holiday, i know i got 28 days a year, i only know this as i was told by the girl in accounts.

 

Is the holiday 5 or 7 days??? i really don't know, all i know is that if i had a week off then they would take 7 days off the 28.

 

My working hours would very from working upto 21 days straight to having 3 days in a week off, no pattern at all :(

On the last rota (April, May, June) i have on averaged 2 days a week off but the first 3 months on the rota i only got one day a week off.

As a team in March we did say we were working to many hours as i know i averaged 61 hours a week (without opt out) for the first 3 months but this came down to around 50 on this rota.

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Are you sure about your second statement? (Please, check against that payslip you must have which shows your previous holidays)...

 

If it is the case, then your employer paid accrued holidays to the end of June 2011, thus bringing your EDT to 30 June 2011...

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On the pay slip where it says holiday taken shows 0.00

 

All it says is holiday pay £237.50, it has no days or hours on it.

The pay slip doesn't even show the week i have taken in April. Looking at April's pay slip it doesn't show any holiday taken, just my normal basic wage plus commission less deductions.

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They have paid me 7 days Holiday, If i take my basic of £950 divided by 4 (7 days x 4 = 28 days) they have paid me £237.50. So 7 days has been paid to me.

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Therefore, if you are sure that those £237.50 correspond to 7 days holidays, your EDT is 30 June 2011... and you may make a note of the fact that on occasions when you have taken holidays, you were paid 7 days for a week holiday...

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Thanks bigredbus, :smile:

 

I will make a note of this, once i have done my ET1 POC, is it ok to post on here??? also should the case be included on it that sidewinder stated above???

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LOL... Who's that Perry Mason? A CAGGER?... LOLOLOL...

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LOL... Thanks Gaz... I have some idea who the man is... Was just joking with our lill' bee! LOL

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Right :smile:

 

I now have two great references in hand from my sales and business manager.

The Letter that was handed to me was signed by the sales Manager.

 

Also over the last few days i have been doing a lot thinking and i have found out that this company that has come in to look at figures, they interviewed everyone in the sales department but they didn't bother with me :( I was the only one not to be interviewed or spoken to.

 

I have been doing a lot of reading over the last few days due to having time on my hands :roll: but i can't seem to find any help really regarding the ET1 form and how i should fill it out.

 

Also I have been looking a bits on the net and i am unsure regarding the PILON payment and when my employment will be class as terminated. Some say there and then but it will be breach of contract if the previsions are not there for a Pilon payment and some say it can be added to my employment which would make me over 12 months :???:

 

http://www.payandbenefitsmagazine.co.uk/pab/article/legal-comment-pilons-sufficient-to-terminate-contracts-12318802 - this case has put doubt in my mind :(

I will copy and paste the article if i am not allowed to link or you don't want to click the link.

There was contractual provision for PILON in this case, there wasn't in yours.

There's the difference.

 

Hello everyone, BTW. Have ya missed me?

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Thanks Rachel, we have all missed you :D did you have a good trip.

Fantastic. Ran over a badger and a red squirrel within 5 minutes of each other.

Then we went to a garlic farm. Doesn't get better than that.

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Huh!... Squirrel pie??? :smile:

 

Welcome back! :whoo:

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I was tempted, but it was a bit squashed. They're a lot smaller than the grey ones, really cute.

 

Even smaller after you had run over it! :lol:

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Hi All, Sorry i have been away, my laptop died on me :-(

 

I now have 2 references and i am just putting the finishing touches to my POC, would it be possible for someone to check them for me :roll: just to make sure i don't miss anything.

 

Also is it the county court i file the paperwork and is there a cost to it???

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Thanks Rachel :oops:

 

Would it be ok for me to cash this cheque that they have given me??? If i take 3 or more copies of it with the wage slip????

I am just thinking if i start action against them they may cancel the cheque :-(

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Hi all, Sorry I have been away :( I have been in hospital for nearly 6 weeks really ill :( but feel alot better now.

 

I am coming up to 3 months since i was sacked, so i am going to put my paper work in tomorrow morning. I have the claim for nearly complete, just need to put my POC on it which it asks for a lead up to what happened on the day I was sacked.

Please correct me if this is wrong :p

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Hi all,

 

Just an update, I have filed online so all i need to now is sit and wait, will keep you informed as soon as i hear something.

 

Thank you all so far for your help and support :-D

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Got a few things to add to this and appologies if its been mentioned already.

 

If you are claiming unfair dismissal then you have to have worked there for min of 12 months.

However if you are claiming unlawful dismissal and IMO this is unlawful as there was no investigation nor disciplinary hearing then there is no min time that you are required to have worked before you can claim.

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