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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.   House or Flat? Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. Lenders have a legal obligation to sell the property for the best price they can get. If they feel the offer is low they won't sell it, because it's likely the borrower will say the same. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Again, points as above. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) Why serve a delapidations notice? If it's in the terms of the lease to maintain the property to a good standard, then serve an S146 notice instead as it's a clear breach of the lease. I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. Enfranchisement isn't something that can be "voided", it's in the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 that leaseholders have the right to buy the freehold of the property. It's normal, whether it is a "normal" leaseholder or a repossession with a leasehold house, to claim this right of enfranchisement and sell the property with said rights attached and the purchase price of the freehold included in the final completion price. That's likely what the mortgage provider wished to do. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at? Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. So this is dealt with then. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.  You wouldn't vary a lease through a lease extension. You'd need a Deed of Variation for that. This may be done at the same time but the lease has already been extended once and that's all they have a right to. The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved. The lease has already been extended once so they have no right to another extension. It seems pretty easy to just get the lawyer to say no and stick by those terms as the law is on your side there. Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. Again, order them to revert it as they didn't have permission to do the works, or else serve an S146 notice for breach of the lease. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
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Hi.

I have received a letter this week stating that a customer compliance officer will be visiting my home next week because there is a query in my claim for benefits. The letter has come from the Jobcentre plus office, I currently claim income support.

I have read a few threads on this site but am still a bit confused by it all. What is a customer compliance officer? Am I being accused of anything here? The only thing I can think of is that last week I received a letter from the benefits office asking if my Daughter is planning to stay in full time education because she turned 16 last week. I sent the form back stating that yes she was going to college full time in September. She received her college place acceptance letter this week.

Would this be the reason?

They have asked me to provide ID. A passport, driving licence,utility bills, rent agreement & a bank statement bearing my name and address. I do not have a passport, but I have a provisional licence (still trying to pass my test!) & I have gas bills & etc. I do not have bank statements because I only use online banking. I have printed out a statement for them though & I have my tenancy agreement. Will this be ok?

Thanks for the help in advance. I am feeling quite upset about it. It all seems very official.

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Compliance visits are usually for cases where there has been an allegation which is believed to be either mallicious or otherwise without substance, but they are duty bound to follow it up by making checks on a person's claim, circumstances and identity.

 

Fraud Investigators are different from compliance and are usually used where there are enough indicators to throw substantial suspicion upon the validity of a claim. In some cases, FIS (Fraud Investigation Service) have looked into a case, find nothing of interest and refer it down to compliance to go take a "look see".

 

In most compliance cases, the outcome is "everything is fine, but be sure to inform us if your circumstances do change in the future". It's very rare that anything comes out of a compliance case.

My advice is based on my opinion, my experience and my education. I do not profess to be an expert in any given field. If requested, I will provide a link where possible to relevant legislation or guidance, so that advice provided can be confirmed and I do encourage others to follow those links for their own peace of mind. Sometimes my advice is not what people necesserily want to hear, but I will advise on facts as I know them - although it may not be what a person wants to hear it helps to know where you stand. Advice on the internet should never be a substitute for advice from your own legal professional with full knowledge of your individual case.

 

 

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Hi pinkribbon

There is nothing to worry about i had them to come to me last week. I got the same letter just like yours they are only coming out to check that nothing have changed they was only at mine for 15 mins.

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Thank you for the replys! I feel a bit better now. To think that someone would make a false allegation about me & go to the trouble of ringing the DWP is scary! How sad. I just try to keep myself to myself & try to do the best I can every day. I can't believe some people can sleep at night!

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Hello everyone. Just to update you that I had my interview today which lasted about 25 mins. The lady was very nice, & explained that an allegation had me made that I had a partner living with me. I explained that I am with someone, gave his address & explained that he is moving in in April once I can add him to the tenancy (I will have been here a year on April 9th so can then add another tenant) We never had any intention of trying to lie about it, so that's fine. I explained that he is here a lot because of our son & picks him up from school some days. She had no problems with that. I had to sign a statement & then she left.

I am more upset that someone (I know who!) would waste the time of busy people with nasty lies. We are just trying our best in life, we are both applying for jobs & just want a stable decent life. The people I strongly suspect are so called family, who are very sick & twisted. I have nothing to do with them & do not let them near my children. What makes me laugh is that these people (who have done this to lots of other people that have upset them) have NEVER worked in their lives!! They get DLA for all the children, funded school taxis (eventhough they have TWO cars in the household) money for being carers, free money to buy sofas & holidays, & all the rent paid, PLUS lots of benefits!! (I know this because it is bragged about around the family with glee) Two of the Sons, aged 16 & 23 do have some learning difficulties, but the Daughter aged 21 is Fine, yet they say she is has a learning problem so they could get over £1000 worth of free computer equipment!! And these people report me!

I get a small amount of Income support & am trying everyday to look & apply for jobs. I never moan about my situation & just try to do the best I can everyday. I don't nose into anyone's business, & am just trying to make plans to improve our family life. I have no intention of claiming anything illegally because there is no need.

I am sorry to ramble. I must be more upset than I realised! Anyway, to anyone in the same situation, just be honest. The compliance team are just trying to do their jobs & have to follow up all allegations. They know better than anyone what sad, thick, losers there are out there that have nothing better to do with their pathetic existences than make up lies.

Fraid they made a mistake with me - they will have to think up another cowardly way to get their kicks next time. xx

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Why don't you report them anonymously of course? We would.

 

LOL! ;) Now there's a thought? No, I would not even bother TBH. People like this will get there's in the end without my intervention. xx:)

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Having read the thread, I thought I'd share my experience with you all.

 

I had a letter and consequently a visit from a compliance officer last week. It seems that they had recieved "an anonymous" call saying that I had a partner living with me who was working and had been for the last 3 or 4 years!!! My first thought was "how come you are only just visiting me now"? Then the penny dropped!!!

 

I am disabled and a single parent claiming income support. I have just won a case in the high court which means I am owed between £25,000 and £30,000 but I'm having a fight on my hands so haven't declared it yet because I haven't had a penny so far.

 

From the questions she asked and the information she had, it was abundantly clear to me exactly who had made this false allegation. I strongly suspect it was the defendant in the court case, I have no doubt whatsoever!!!

 

I was accused of having my boyfriend living with me when in actual fact I am single and have been since February. The name she had on her paperwork was my ex-husband's who is practically my carer. He visits daily but lives with his parents. The only time he is in my house during the night is when I am very ill and he sits up with me. I answered all of her questions and signed the statement but am now left wondering what happens now. The Officer gave me no indication of how things would now proceed and I have been left unable to sleep and worried about what is going to happen.

 

I despise these so called "do-gooders", they stick their noses into other peoples lives without getting their facts correct first but in my case this "anonymous" caller is even more dispicable because I think/know it was my sister!!!!!!

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Update to last post:

 

Well it seems that I have worried myself sick for nothing. I received a letter this morning telling me that no action is being taken and that my money will still be paid into my designated account.

 

Having told the truth to the compliance officer I certainly feel vindicated but at the same time I am annoyed that someone can make a single phone call and throw my life in chaos. It has not only caused the bebefit office extra work, but it has put me under needless stress.

 

Whilst I accept that there is a need for these compliance officers, I also feel that the system doesn't allow for honest people who are accused malicously. It appears that anyone can ring the benefits office and spout a load of rubbish and automatically you are presumed guilty!

 

Luckily everything turned out fine for me, but good luck to anyone else now finding themselves in this position, my thoughts are with you!

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Hi spacehopper, if you'd been a M.P. things would have been looked at very differently.

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/benefits-tax-credits-minimum/261429-welfare-atosh-government-debate-8.html#post2952300

 

Kindest regards,

Paul.

I'm not a qualified welfare rights adviser, but I'm planning on becoming one. I'm no substitute for more competent advice from trained CAB and welfare rights workers - [URL="http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/benefits-tax-credits-minimum/127741-benefits-advice.html"]see this post[/URL] by Joa, great advice and links! I've been running a Crisis Loan campaign and help since Jan 2007 . See my annotations c/o "theyworkforyou". I'm also currently interested by the recent DWP Medical Services reform and the effect this is having on valid claims, seriously - someone needs to be keeping a suicide count.

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Thank you for that loan ranger, I found it quite amusing!

 

What I'd now like to know is, since the benefit office is now fully aware that I will be getting my inheritance soon (hopefully), obviously I am going to declare it. I might add that I had every intention of declaring it but have even had that taken out of my hands because of my malicous caller. They are just waiting to hear from me, as they stated in their letter.

 

So my question is how much money am I allowed to have in my bank account before it affects my benefit. But more importantly, am I going to have to endure another visit from a compliance officer? I found the experience unpleasant to say the least, as was she!!!!

 

Regards,

Karen

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You can have up to £6000 before it affects benefit.

 

Your benefit will be reduced by £1 for every £250 or part of £250 between £6000 and £16000.

 

If you have £16000 or more you will not be entitled to means tested benefit, until the amount falls back below £16000.

 

Non means tested benefits such as DLA would not be affected.

My advice is based on my opinion, my experience and my education. I do not profess to be an expert in any given field. If requested, I will provide a link where possible to relevant legislation or guidance, so that advice provided can be confirmed and I do encourage others to follow those links for their own peace of mind. Sometimes my advice is not what people necesserily want to hear, but I will advise on facts as I know them - although it may not be what a person wants to hear it helps to know where you stand. Advice on the internet should never be a substitute for advice from your own legal professional with full knowledge of your individual case.

 

 

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Thank you for the information Erica.

 

As I am disabled, I fully intend to buy a car with my inheritance. I also intend to pay off my debt. Will the benefit office take this into account? If I spend my money on a car, will they still say that it is an asset and reduce my benefit accordingly.

 

I'm not very "clued up" on the benefits system having been married for 13 years. I've never had to worry about these things before and I'm finding it a bit of minefield now that I am an single!

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There are areas where they can treat a claim as if the claimant still had the money. This is known as "deprivation of capital". Each case is treated on it's own individuality and there is no way of knowing for certain, how a Decision Maker would view your case.

 

The crux is that if they feel you have spent money that you could have used for living expenses on items which were not necessary, they can treat your claim as if you still had the money. For example, if a person spent their money paying off a priority debt (debt secured against their property for example) it would perhaps be acceptable but if a person spent their money paying off non priority debts (personal loan, unsecured) it could be considered deprivation.

 

This explains what are priority debts and non priority debts

My advice is based on my opinion, my experience and my education. I do not profess to be an expert in any given field. If requested, I will provide a link where possible to relevant legislation or guidance, so that advice provided can be confirmed and I do encourage others to follow those links for their own peace of mind. Sometimes my advice is not what people necesserily want to hear, but I will advise on facts as I know them - although it may not be what a person wants to hear it helps to know where you stand. Advice on the internet should never be a substitute for advice from your own legal professional with full knowledge of your individual case.

 

 

Please do not seek, offer or produce advice on a consumer issue via private message; it is against

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(exceptions for prior authorisation)

 

 

 

 

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