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    • Thank you very much for your help. To answer your two questions:  1. I did not send a CPR request when the Claim Form arrived. 2. They did send a claim form, in March 2023. This is the document from which I copied the particulars of their claim.  
    • Thanks. That's a lot to wade through.  Will get on to it. Two other quick questions. Did you send them a CPR request when the claim form arrived? Are you sure they didn't send a Letter of Claim before they sued you?
    • Hi there, Which Court have you received the claim from? MCOL (County Court Business Centre, Northampton) Name of the Claimant: Uk Parking Control Limited Claimants Solicitors: DCB Legal Date of issue: March 2023 Following events: — DQ sent to me July 2023 — I filed a DQ in September 2023 — My claim was transferred to [my local court] September 2023 — Received Notice of Allocation to Small Claims Track (Hearing) including date for hearing in April 2024 — Witness statement due by May 14 — Claimant must pay court fees by May 17 — Court hearing on June 18   What is the claim for –  1. The defendant is indebted to the claimant for a Parking Charge issued at [x] issued to vehicle [__] at Walcot Yard, Walcot Road, Bath, Ba1 5bg. 2. The PCN details are [___]. 3. The PCN(s) was issued on private land owned or managed by C. The vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on Cs signs (the Contract), this incurring the PCNs. 4. The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. D is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests, the PCN is outstanding. The Contract entitles C to damages.  AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. £160 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages. 2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of [x]p until judgement or sooner payment. 3. Costs and court fees   What is the value of the claim? ~260 Amount Claimed ~170 court fees ~35 legal rep fees ~50 Total Amount  ~260 Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? No Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? No Here is the defence I filed:  DEFENCE 1. The parking charges referred to in this claim did not arise from any agreement of terms. The charge and the claim was an unexpected shock. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all. It is denied that any conduct by the driver was a breach of any prominent term and it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as managers) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the Particulars. The facts as known to the Defendant: 2. It is admitted that on the material date the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle in question, but liability is denied. 3. While working at a nearby premises, [___] the Defendant was informed by the manager that they had an informal verbal agreement with the developer and owner operator of [___], which supposedly allowed them to park there. Based on this information, the Defendant parked their car there in good faith. The Defendant was not aware of any restrictions or limitations to this agreement, and therefore believed that they had the right to park there without penalty. 4. The Defendant avers that the Claimant failed to serve a Notice to Keeper compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. Consequently, the claimant cannot transfer liability for this charge to the Defendant as keeper of the vehicle. 5. The Particulars of Claim ('POC') appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action”. 6. The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case is being pursued. 7. The POC are entirely inadequate, in that they fail to particularise (a) the contractual term(s) relied upon; (b) the specifics of any alleged breach of contract; and (c) how the purported and unspecified 'damages' arose and the breakdown of the exaggerated quantum. 8. The claim has been issued via Money Claims Online and, as a result, is subject to a character limit for the Particulars of Claim section of the Claim Form. The fact that generic wording appears to have been applied has obstructed any semblance of clarity. The Defendant trusts that the court will agree that a claim pleaded in such generic terms lacks the required details and requires proper particularisation in a detailed document within 14 days, per 16PD.3 9. The guidance for completing Money Claims Online confirms this and clearly states: "If you do not have enough space to explain your claim online and you need to serve extra, more detailed particulars on the defendant, tick the box that appears after the statement 'you may also send detailed particulars direct to the defendant.'" 10. No further particulars have been filed and to the Defendant's knowledge, no application asking the court service for more time to serve and/or relief from sanctions has been filed either. 11. In view of it having been entirely within the Claimant's Solicitors' gift to properly plead the claim at the outset and the claim being for a sum, well within the small claims limit, such that the Defendant considers it disproportionate and at odds with the overriding objective (in the context of a failure by the Claimant to properly comply with rules and practice directions) for a Judge to throw the erring Claimant a lifeline by ordering further particulars (to which a further defence might be filed, followed by further referral to a Judge for directions and allocation) the court is respectfully invited to strike this claim out. 13. Whilst the new Code and Act is not retrospective, it was enacted due to the failure of the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes of Practice. The Minister is indisputably talking about existing (not future) cases when declaring that 'recovery' fees were 'designed to extort money'. A clear steer for the Courts which it is hoped overrides mistakes made in a few appeal cases that the parking industry desperately rely upon (Britannia v Semark-Jullien, One Parking Solution v Wilshaw, Vehicle Control Services v Ward and Vehicle Control Services v Percy). 14. Far from being persuasive, regrettably these one-sided appeals saw Circuit Judges led in one direction by Counsel for parking firms, and the litigant-in-person consumers lacked the wherewithal to appeal. In case this Claimant tries to rely upon these, the Defendant avers that errors were made in every case. Evidence was either overlooked (including signage discrepancies in Wilshaw, where the Judge was also oblivious to the BPA Code of Practice and the DVLA KADOE requirement for landowner authority) or the Judge inexplicably sought out and quoted from the wrong Code altogether (Percy). In Ward, a few seconds' emergency stop out of the control of the driver was unfairly aligned with the admitted parking contract in Beavis. Those learned Judges were not in possession of the same level of information as the DLUHC, whose incoming statutory Code of Practice now clarifies such matters as a definition of 'parking' as well as consideration and grace periods and minor matters such as 'keying errors' or 'fluttering tickets/permits' where a PCN should not have been issued at all, or should have been cancelled in the pre-action dispute phase. POFA and CRA breaches 15. Pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable from a registered keeper, even in cases where a firm may have complied with other POFA requirements (adequate signage, Notice to Keeper wording/dates, and a properly communicated 'relevant contract/relevant obligation'). If seeking keeper/hirer liability - unclear from the POC - the Claimant is put to strict proof of full compliance and liability transferred. 16. Claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3), the Government guidance on the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ('CRA'). The CRA introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both contract terms and 'consumer notices'. In a parking context, this includes signage and all notices, letters and other communications intended to be read by the consumer. 17. Section 71 creates a duty upon courts to consider the test of fairness, including (but not limited to) whether all terms/notices were unambiguously and conspicuously brought to the attention of a consumer. Signage must be prominent, plentiful, well placed and lit, and all terms unambiguous and obligations clear. The Defendant avers that the CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying due regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the requirements for fair/open dealing and good faith. ParkingEye v Beavis is distinguished (lack of legitimate interest/prominence of terms) 18. ParkingEye overcame the possibility of their £85 charge being dismissed as punitive, however the Supreme Court clarified that ‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged’ in parking cases, which must each be determined on their own facts. That 'unique' case met a commercial justification test, and took into account the prominent yellow/black uncluttered signs with £85 in the largest/boldest text. Rather than causing other parking charges to be automatically justified, the Beavis case facts set a high bar that this Claimant has failed to reach. 19. Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a 'legitimate interest' in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach. The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms, unexpected/cumbersome obligations nor 'concealed pitfalls or traps'. 20. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests. The Claimant’s small signs have vague/hidden terms and a mix of small font, and are considered incapable of binding a driver. Consequently, it remains the Defendant’s position that no contract to pay an onerous 'penalty' was seen or agreed. Binding Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving unclear terms and a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a parking charge, include: (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (‘red hand rule’) and (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2, both leading authorities confirming that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and (iii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space'' (NB: when parking operator Claimants cite Vine, they often mislead courts by quoting out of context, Roch LJ's words about the Respondent’s losing case, and not from the ratio). 21. Fairness and clarity of terms and notices are paramount in the statutory Code and this is supported by the BPA & IPC Trade Bodies. In November 2020's Parking Review, solicitor Will Hurley, CEO of the IPC, observed: "Any regulation or instruction either has clarity or it doesn’t. If it’s clear to one person but not another, there is no clarity. The same is true for fairness. Something that is fair, by definition, has to be all-inclusive of all parties involved – it’s either fair or it isn’t. The introduction of a new ‘Code of Practice for Parking’ provides a wonderful opportunity to provide clarity and fairness for motorists and landowners alike." Lack of standing or landowner authority, and lack of ADR 22. DVLA data is only supplied to pursue parking charges if there is an agreement flowing from the landholder (ref: KADOE rules). It is not accepted that this Claimant (an agent of a principal) has authority from the landowner to issue charges in this place in their own name. The Claimant is put to strict proof that they have standing to make contracts with drivers and litigate in their own name. 23. The Claimant failed to offer a genuinely independent Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR). The Appeals Annex in the new incoming statutory Code shows that genuine disputes such as this would see the charge cancelled, had a fair ADR existed. Whether or not a person engaged with it, the Claimant's consumer blame culture and reliance upon the industry's own 'appeals service' should not sway the court into a belief that a fair appeal was ever on offer. The rival Trade Bodies' time-limited and opaque 'appeals' services fail to properly consider facts or rules of law and reject almost any dispute: e.g. the IAS upheld appeals in a woeful 4% of decided cases (IPC's 2020 Annual Report). Conclusion 24. The claim is entirely without merit. The Defendant believes that it is in the public interest that claims like this should be struck out because knowingly enhanced parking claims like this one cause consumer harm on a grand scale. 25. There is ample evidence to support the view - long held by many District Judges - that these are knowingly exaggerated claims. For HMCTS to only disallow those costs in the tiny percentage of cases that reach hearings whilst other claims to continue to flood the courts unabated, is to fail hundreds of thousands of consumers who suffer CCJs or pay inflated amounts, in fear of intimidating pre-action threats. 26. In the matter of costs, the Defendant asks: (a) at the very least, for standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and (b) for a finding of unreasonable conduct by this Claimant, seeking costs pursuant to CPR 46.5. 27. Attention is drawn specifically to the (often-seen from this industry) distinct possibility of an unreasonably late Notice of Discontinuance. Whilst CPR r.38.6 states that the Claimant is liable for the Defendant's costs after discontinuance (r.38.6(1)) this does not normally apply to claims allocated to the small claims track (r.38.6(3)). However, the White Book states (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2)(dg))." Statement of Truth I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    • Hi, I was caught by the security guards today for shoplifting in John Lewis. I think total amount is about £500. They said they saw me on CCTV last week, I was freaked out so I admitted it. I know it’s awful… I cried as I was too scared and begged them pls don’t call the police. They took pics of me and wrote down my details from banking app as I didn’t have any id with me. I told them my difficulties that I was scammed £35k recently and I lost my job so I stole those things and sell them. I apologised and they said they won’t call the police but I’m banned and will receive letters from RLP for fines which including this time and the last time(I didn’t give back the goods I took last time). I know it’s very very bad, I feel shameful and so depressed so hopeless about everything happened. I wonder since it’s a lot of money, will they sue me, take me to the court, or will they change their mind to call the police when they check the cctv footage to check how much I owe them? I said sorry I really couldn’t afford the fine at this situation, they said it’s their job they can’t do anything. Later when I was out of the mall, the security guard said, I can call RLP to negotiate about the fee. Also I’m probably moving to another city in 2 months, so if they want to take me to court but I didn’t receive any letters what should I do… and the security guy told me it’s worse as I traveled to this city and stealing stuff. I’m home now but feeling awful, wish people could give me some advice, thank you very much.
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Tigga - If your circumstances are still the same simply write to them explaining the situation and send it recorded. If they insist on taking you to court it will again be dismissed. The court will not make an attachment of earnings order against you if you are simply unable to pay.

 

sorry for the delay in replying ive not been too well is it worth my while do you think in sending off cca to oung & pearce,as well as a letter explaing my situation, the agreement was signed in oct 2007 with a re-write in feb 2008 both signed off the premises as they came to my house. any one had any dealings with young & pearce,? help pleasse as received 2nd threatening letter this morning and im trying to get a clean slate after having a very bad year with ill health

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The issues are as follows

The PPI element of the Policy appears very strongly to have been missold. The policy would appear to be a single premium PPI policy. Hence that is the reason why you loan appears so large the lender has sold you an insurance policy and then lent you the mony to finance the purchase. In effect you have two loans your original one and one for your PPi policy.

 

Your claim on the missold PPI policy will be for

 

Repayment of the portion of each loan payment you have made in respect of the PPI policy

Repayment of the interest portion of each payment made on the PPi element of your loan

Statutory Interest at 8% on each payment made above

Cancellation of future liabilities under the loan

 

Once you have recovered the PPI element I think you have a good chance to write off the rest of the agreement. The fact that they are refusing to provide you with documents that form a part of your loan agreement appears to be a breach of S77 Consumer Credit Act 1974. Failure to comply means they cannot enforce your loan. The bar will be on until they comply with the act

 

I recommend a company called Bank Charge Recovery Ltd on PPI cases they charge 25% of what they recover but do not charge upfront fees

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After a bit of advice re HP loan.

 

Do Welcome have to stand by the amount they return on your Experian report or can they wriggle out and say they made a mistake?

 

DH's Experian shows he's paid over half off the car so wants to do a VT, what address should he write to, the local branch or HO? TBH the local creeps keep feeding us BS so I don't trust them.

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I have been looking at all my paperwork from Welcome. With my personal loan I have taken out Life Insurance. Looks like its for 5 years - loan is for 4. Also think that it has interest added on over the life of the loan. This is not a secured loan so why life insurance. anyone else with this on a loan?

Not noticed it before. Also was not given an option if I wanted it or not just told to sign it as part of the loan. Small medical quiz and questions if I had another life insurance. Forgot all about it with all the other problems.

Any thoughts?

 

It looks like you have been mis-sold PPI cover. They fact that the insurance period and the loan period do not match is evidence that it has been misold. In addition the fact that it was not optional means that the amount should have been included in the APR and Total cost of credit anlaysis on the loan.

 

I have detailed what you can recover on an earlier post today but essentially it is you insurance polcy cost paid the interest on the policy the future premium cost and furture interest portion on the PPI plus statutory interest of 8% on the payments actually made.

 

I would imagine that the lender has not added the PPI cost to teh TCC and APR which would actually make the loan potentially unenfoceable

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HI im with welcome sorry to say i took a loan with them for 15.000 ive paid over 10.000 and still have 22.000 to settle now if i go full term i will be paying 42.000 im be hind on ths they want me to start a new one lol

 

The reason why it is so large is that you have probably been missold PPI. If you put in claim to recover the PPI it would halve the amount you would have to repay see my earlier post on what to claim for

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Hi all, first time here, I cant believe how big this forum is!! Well here goes with my story.

 

I've been with Welcome now for 5 years and was struggling at that time 5 years ago, I took out a loan with them.

 

I have had nothing but problems with them.

 

without going into personal detail I had the PPI with them but was made redundant from work. What a relief I had payment protection ? No !

I called them to inform them that I'd been made redundant and would like to activate the PPI, they told me it was not valid. I do not know why but they convinced me of this and told me that there was no point persuing it.

 

I had no income for a year and with having to conitnue to pay the loan out of my redundancy cheque I eventually fell into serious financial difficulties.

 

after 2.5 years they offered me a re-write which was attractive because it nearly halved my payments, although the term of the loan started again.

 

I too have read all the statments regarding TELEPHONE CALL OUTGOING, and most of them I've never received at all, and also have been charged for rejected card payments, when all along I've id sufficient funds in my account.

 

a few months ago i had a call from one of those claimback solicitors and when I told them my situ about being made redundant they told me I shouldve absolutely been covered for redundancy with my PPI, whether it was mis-sold or not.

 

On this basis is I have written to welcome and challenged them and told them I am ceasing payments until I get a satisfactory response as to why the PPI was invalid. It has been nearly 2 months now & no reply, I am ready to fight this all the way & still have my original Redundancy documents for amunition. I have told them to freeze the loan and all interest and charges until there is a satisfactory reply and I would also be seeking any payments I have made since my redundancy, which Im sure you all agree goes into the 1000's, almost 5 figures.

 

Any comments or suggestions guys ? :confused:

 

Start by recovering your PPI see my posts today that would be a large chunk

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Why pay someone, when you can do it for yourself for free ???

 

Madness !!!

 

 

I agree especially 25% talk about easy money for them!! :eek:

I am a consumer just like you, please get a second opinion or investigate yourself on anything I advise as I am in no way legally trained. Everything I know has come from the Mighty CAG and fellow CAGGERS. :cool:

 

If I have helped in any way please click my reputation star and make a donation to CAG to enable us all to continue to help each other :cool:

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Well I suppose you have to balance the issues. If you get a professional to do it for you

 

1. You will get your case properly prepared

2. The company will ensure your basis of claim is correct and consistant with all of the paperwork that relates to the loan

3. Your claim will be properly calculated and costed by a chartered accountant who will claim not only for the PPi policy the future remaining premiums, the interest charged on the policy and the statutory interest on payments actually made

4. All the document searches will be made and a pre action disclosure case brought should the lender fail to supply the requisite documents

5. Also should the relevent documents not be provided the requisite default notices will be posted to the company

6. The reality will be that your claim will be properly prepared, and the demand will be taken very seriously and fully paid out within 3 months.

7. Each of the demands will be properly documented and prepared by a suitably qualified third party. Should the lender not act in a bona fide manner the documentation will be used as evidence as unfairness against the lender which is a complete defence under The Consumer Credit Act 2006.

8. Finally a professional will ensure that you do not prejudice your own case by submitting inappropriate material

 

All of the above takes time and money in the alternative you may be fobbed off for years and receive little or none of your money back.

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Why pay someone, when you can do it for yourself for free ???

 

Madness !!!

 

 

I agree with you

wf stealing enough money from us without having to give others cash!!:evil:

 

Will get back to you all later to day when rang Access to Justice Foundation.

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Whats their game?

 

Today I received a secured credit agreement to sign this was to be returned to: broker rec,bishop house,abbeyfields,lenton,notts bg7 2sz.

 

My story

 

1] £15k secured loan @20%apr early 2008 never missed any payments

2] late 2009 requested copy of credit agreement

3] told to send a pound and they will send it

4] did not take further as dont want to damage credit file (2 years i'm prime again)

5] today got new agreement to sign for £16k @17%apr

6] settlement of 2008 loan would be £13k so if I sign this (no chance) would they in theory send me £3k

 

This shouts of panic we dont have the agreement does it not?

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Been in touch with Access to Justice Foundation through my solicitor who is putting a case together for me against wf.

 

Pro bono assistance in this context is free legal help that provides access to justice for someone who cannot afford to pay for legal assistance and cannot get legal aid.

 

TJHOOKER1........... that stinks, they sent me copy of cca which is NOT mine!! I think they get a few papers together, cross copy using other people's signatures that sort of match and send them out.

I have never seen an original document.

Anybody got an original one sent to them on request?????

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TonyB33 - Hi thankyou for your reply. This was not ppi but Life Insurance - for 5 years - loan was for 4 - this is an extra year after payment would have been finished. Have done another SAR today as the first one wasnt registered post and the £10 po was cashed and shows as a payment on my car HP acnt. So they got the rqst but paid the money onto my HP acnt. My main question is why life insurance???? if its not secured on anything? This was not an option but just presumed it was part of loan. I have many issues with them and have followed all the instructions that I have been given but when I asked my D in Law to post letter she didnt do it R post.oops...

 

"I cannot remember a 'small mediacal Qizz or questions!! Could you tell me what questions you were asked if you can remember pls?"

 

I think it was if I had any medical conditions I was being treated for. Nothing about my doctor or hospital - also if I had any life insurance - hope that helps....my main question is - why life insurance is sold with a loan? and not as an option and I was not asked if I wanted it but just presumed it was part of the laon conditions. Also its for 5 years and not the 4 of the loan. Maybe to cover them if I extendedthe loan...have lots of issues with them and just waiting for the SAR to be done.

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My God, it's quiet on here....:eek:

 

Anyone would have thought Welcome had gone bust....:lol:

 

No chance guys, they will be around for years yet, that I can assure you....:roll:

 

I never trusted much that was said on here about them going out of business.

 

Well it's all going to start up again as I received a patronising phone call from a jumped up woman at the Feltham branch just now.

 

So everyone expect your phone to start ringing soon.

 

She was patronising to say the least.

 

How dare she speak to me by saying that I must act in a mature and responsible manner.

 

She said that the monthly cheque that I just sent WF was not enough, so I said this amount was all agreed in writing with their LCU branch in Sutton last Autumn backed up by an Income & Expenditure Statement.

 

This LCU branch closed down earlier this year by the way and I had a letter saying my account is back to the original lending branch.

 

Also I have it in writing that all interest and charges are frozen ( as per my recent statement from them )

 

I then put the phone down and called Nottingham and spoke to a woman there who will be lodging my complaint with their Compliance Dept and they will get back to me within 48 hours.

 

I will also back up my complaint in writing.

 

So these people are still up to their old tricks and have low grade salestaff on commission trying to get money out of you by their usual bullying techniques.

 

Thus Welcome Finance have not changed one bit in how they operate.....:(

 

I loathe them with a vengeance but I know all the ways how to deal with them and if the branch calls again, then the phone goes down at once.

 

Voda

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yeah its been quiet for a while now,i had them on phone last week when i told them i wasnt paying.the girl on the phone was very rude to say the least,i ended up speaking to the area manager who was fine.they have made a massive mistake on my secured loan which is going to let me sleep alot easier at night,thank you welcome

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Voda it really has gone quiet which is abit worrying really :/

Hope your complaint gets the rude little c*wbag a slapped wrist if nothing else.

I dont think anything will change with the way they run if anything it may even get worse due to the fact the ship is sinking.

I am a consumer just like you, please get a second opinion or investigate yourself on anything I advise as I am in no way legally trained. Everything I know has come from the Mighty CAG and fellow CAGGERS. :cool:

 

If I have helped in any way please click my reputation star and make a donation to CAG to enable us all to continue to help each other :cool:

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Hiya Beyondhope,

 

I will keep you all informed on the progress of my complaint.

 

Is WF sinking though ????

 

Take care

 

Voda

 

Voda it really has gone quiet which is abit worrying really :/

Hope your complaint gets the rude little c*wbag a slapped wrist if nothing else.

I dont think anything will change with the way they run if anything it may even get worse due to the fact the ship is sinking.

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hi there

 

im after some quick advice, im in a 2year car lease with audi due to end july 2010 and have had to default due to redundancy and am at the stage of having to give the car back,

 

i have recieved a default notice and a letter today staing i have indicated my intention.

 

How quick will the repo take ?

can they remove from my propety withoput permission and do they have to have a court order ?

not sure about personal belongings and stuff ?

 

thanks

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Hiya Beyondhope,

 

I will keep you all informed on the progress of my complaint.

 

Is WF sinking though ????

 

Take care

 

Voda

 

Good luck with it

 

My opinion, which is purely that, is they are sinking just slower than id like :lol: and that they will just be replaced with equally inadequate DCAs etc :)

I am a consumer just like you, please get a second opinion or investigate yourself on anything I advise as I am in no way legally trained. Everything I know has come from the Mighty CAG and fellow CAGGERS. :cool:

 

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hi there

 

im after some quick advice, im in a 2year car lease with audi due to end july 2010 and have had to default due to redundancy and am at the stage of having to give the car back,

 

i have recieved a default notice and a letter today staing i have indicated my intention.

 

How quick will the repo take ?

can they remove from my propety withoput permission and do they have to have a court order ?

not sure about personal belongings and stuff ?

 

thanks

 

In my opinion that all depends on the company - some welcome cars here havent been taken since last summer, some have been taken 3months later, some a month so I dont actually know if there is a timescale.

they need a court order to repossess as you have paid more than 1/3

they also need a court order if the vehicle is on private property.

I am a consumer just like you, please get a second opinion or investigate yourself on anything I advise as I am in no way legally trained. Everything I know has come from the Mighty CAG and fellow CAGGERS. :cool:

 

If I have helped in any way please click my reputation star and make a donation to CAG to enable us all to continue to help each other :cool:

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Thanks.

 

Yep I think that you are right.....:mad:

 

Good luck with it

 

My opinion, which is purely that, is they are sinking just slower than id like :lol: and that they will just be replaced with equally inadequate DCAs etc :)

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In my opinion that all depends on the company - some welcome cars here havent been taken since last summer, some have been taken 3months later, some a month so I dont actually know if there is a timescale.

they need a court order to repossess as you have paid more than 1/3

they also need a court order if the vehicle is on private property.

 

 

thanks for that info didnt want to wake up one morning and the car be gone !!!

 

:eek:

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Hi all, just a quick one, I wrote to WF 2 months ago to tell them I wont be paying another penny for various reasons, BIG ppi problems, charges for fone calls Ive never received and other charges etc etc....my letter states I will not be paying another penny until my questions are answered and have also suggested that they terminate the loan with no further payments required....I've heard NOTHING since........is this the calm before the storm. My reason, I was made redundant some years ago and when I tried to activate the PPI they told me it wasnt valid, altough it should have been.

 

Any advice / comments ??

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thanks for that info didnt want to wake up one morning and the car be gone !!!

 

:eek:

 

 

If you wake one morn without notice or seeing a court order and its gone I would be rubbing my hands together as they arent permitted to do it although depending on the company thats not to say they wont some companies have no idea :rolleyes:

I am a consumer just like you, please get a second opinion or investigate yourself on anything I advise as I am in no way legally trained. Everything I know has come from the Mighty CAG and fellow CAGGERS. :cool:

 

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