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    • I've given it a try, I expect alot of work required so will give my eyes and brain a rest as I'm getting word blind.. and I'll come back later following your initial bashings Thanks IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows;   I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim.   1. 1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. The Defendant has not entered any contract with the Claimant. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. 4. The Claimant claims a Notice of Assignment was served on the 22/02/2022. This is denied. 5. The Claimant claims a Default Notice was served on the defendant. This is denied. 6. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 7. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. 8. Point 3 is noted and denied. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 9. Point 5 is noted and disputed. 10. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked *** The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 11. Point 11 is noted and disputed. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. 12. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** (dates are wrong) 13. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 14. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 21/12/2022. Conclusion 15. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 16. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 17. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter into settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter into such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment. Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • eh?...no you are simply telling them you have moved...
    • I agree with you. You and the company are separate legal entities so the company property that you damaged is third party property as far as you are concerned..  Get the company to write to you holding you formally responsible for the damage to their fence with the quotations for the repair. Send it by post (proof of posting) to Prima and ask them to confirm they will deal with the the third party directly. Best that someone other than you writes on behalf of the company! I suspect this is simply lack of knowledge by staff on customer service desks who don't understand the concept of companies and their shareholders being separate legal entities. If Prima still make difficulties use their formal complaints system until either they agree to cover the TP claim or issue a deadlock letter. You can then go the FCA.
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hi nickkarkie,

 

To be honest I can`t really see anything wrong with this CCA, except for the lack of `Cancellation Rights`. But, there is a paragraph stating you have a right to settle the agreement at any time by paying all monies owed. I`m not sure if this means the same thing, because the Cancellation Rights give you a short cooling off period to cancel the agreement incase you chose the wrong product or something to that effect.

 

Once could argue the right to settle is for use once the agreement is under way, therefore you could say you still have no Cancellation Rights.

 

That`s what I would argue anyway.

 

As chalky says, have a look on the Egg Agreements thread, and maybe post up your CCA there, or at least a link to this thread.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Don`t give up hope though.

 

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Hi, can anyone tell me if my agreement is enforceable? I scanned it on another thread and somebody said it looks enforceable to them, but today I noticed that at the bottom of the first page of the agreement it says "application form" which has been deliberately covered with a white sticker but you can still see what is underneath when the light shines on it. Surely then it is not an agreement but an application form. You can actually still see it in the scan i have uploaded on the bottom right of the first page. Any advice?

 

 

There's a lot of discussion on the thread that Chalkitup mentioned particularly as regards the words "approved limit" and the missing reference to "credit limit."

 

There may also be some reference to securitisation which is why you need to read and grasp the thread!!

 

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Hi,

I've CCA'd DCA acting for AMEX Credit Card and received what appears to be a Pre Approved Application (looks like 24/06/94), plus 3 pages of a Credit Card Agreement. I'd like an opinion as to its validity/enforceability. I'll upload it to photobucket.

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What would really be useful , if someone could post an agreement that was unenforceable and post it on here with the parts highlighted which made it unenforceable.

From what i have been reading it would help a lot of members.:D

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Yes i agree, this Egg agreement can be ARGUED by some as unenforceable. I have an identical one and i am sure as hell going to be arguing that, based on the very non-specific term "Approved Limit" which i will argue is not a prescribed term. However, i have been warned not to get too excited as it is down to the JUDGE ON THE DAY to decide if this term is acceptable or not. Its a VERY grey area i am afraid, but well worth looking into in my opinion.

As for securitization, wherever she lives when she's at home, i have no clue myself but looks like i need to get to grips with that too. Any short translations of what thats about would be VERY useful please :D

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Could someone please have a lookat my credit card agreement

 

The reason I am thinking it is not enforceable are

 

Interest rate not on the same page as the signature

 

No mention of balance transfer when it was set up specifically for that

 

No mention of charges such as late payment fees etc

 

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Out of interest, can I tell BPO to go bog if my name is spelled incorrectly on the agreement? They missed a letter out of my name.

 

Think that would be classsed as de minimis so, no!!

 

de minimis = the law does not care about very small matters

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Hi

My ears were burning

 

I have been loking at quite a few of these just lately.

 

I pesonally do not prescribe to the limit argument as i believe that the regs refer to the "techical term(the number as in £100) " in the statute and not the badge or label but others differ.

 

I am getting intersted in the interrest charges thing though especially the application of the charges for cash.

 

The regs say that if their is no cash amount on which to base the APR then they must use the assumptions which in the case of an agreement of this age is £100 but i cannot for the life of me get it to work out.

 

Tell me does the agreement say 18.6 or 16.6 for cah advance apr(it is a little unclear).

Also when you make a cash transaction is the fee added to the debit ballance or is it just incleded in the interest repayment ,in other words do you see it on your statement as £2 cash fee.

 

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But it is actually completely different name, the way they have spelled it. I worked for a time for a company dealing with debt elimination & they said that if a name is spelled wrong then an agreement can be considered null & void. Is this not the case? This 'de minimis' is a joke, if the law does not care about very small matters than what is the point of the law at all. Or is it that the rules can be suitably bent to provide a good outcome for the companies that are actually working illegally?

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But it is actually completely different name, the way they have spelled it. I worked for a time for a company dealing with debt elimination & they said that if a name is spelled wrong then an agreement can be considered null & void. Is this not the case? This 'de minimis' is a joke, if the law does not care about very small matters than what is the point of the law at all. Or is it that the rules can be suitably bent to provide a good outcome for the companies that are actually working illegally?

 

I won't be able to find the threads now, but I have read this before and it was claimed to be de minimis. The crux will be if they have a document with your signature on that has all of the prescribed terms within 4 corners.

 

It would be nice as I know that on one of my agreements, Egg have mispelt my christian name and also given me a new initial for my middle name. Nonetheless, these details are actually linked to me on my credit reference.

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Out of interest, can I tell BPO to go bog if my name is spelled incorrectly on the agreement? They missed a letter out of my name.

Firstly there would most likely be a statement on the document that states if the detail are incorrect please amend

 

it is your obligation to ensure that the document which you sign is accurate, you can be held accountable for basic errors if you fail to notify the company of the error, this would be the case as well if you entered the wrong info on your application form and then allowed the error to continue on the actual agreement

 

As it goes, if the name is not your name and your signature does not appear on the agreement then you may have an argument.

 

however if it is as WelshMam2009 suggests then its likely to be classified as de minimis non curat lex and therefore as the latin states the law does not concern itself with triffles

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So even if the agreement is in a totally different name it doesn't matter? Strange.

 

I haven't signed anything. It was with Virgin Media and I have been told there is no paperwork etc (I sent a request for info thingy wotsit)

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