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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.   House or Flat? Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. Lenders have a legal obligation to sell the property for the best price they can get. If they feel the offer is low they won't sell it, because it's likely the borrower will say the same. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Again, points as above. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) Why serve a delapidations notice? If it's in the terms of the lease to maintain the property to a good standard, then serve an S146 notice instead as it's a clear breach of the lease. I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. Enfranchisement isn't something that can be "voided", it's in the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 that leaseholders have the right to buy the freehold of the property. It's normal, whether it is a "normal" leaseholder or a repossession with a leasehold house, to claim this right of enfranchisement and sell the property with said rights attached and the purchase price of the freehold included in the final completion price. That's likely what the mortgage provider wished to do. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at? Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. So this is dealt with then. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.  You wouldn't vary a lease through a lease extension. You'd need a Deed of Variation for that. This may be done at the same time but the lease has already been extended once and that's all they have a right to. The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved. The lease has already been extended once so they have no right to another extension. It seems pretty easy to just get the lawyer to say no and stick by those terms as the law is on your side there. Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. Again, order them to revert it as they didn't have permission to do the works, or else serve an S146 notice for breach of the lease. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
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Just received a general form of judgement say that my claim has been struck out having failed to pay the allocation fee. I am totally confused as I was not sent an AQ and therefore did not fill one out so don't know why this has been ordered???

Telephoned the court to explain this and they told me that the judge has just struck out the claim and it may not be because of the allocation fee. They cannot give me a reason. The judge has just struck it out and that is that.

 

I'm totally gutted. That money is mine and I worked hard for it.

Is there anything I can do to appeal against the decision? I asked the court about this and they said I should seek legal advice. :-x

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Been looking round the site and it seems that a few people have had their claims reinstated after having been struck out. If this is possible...how do I go about it?

Feel like sending a nudge letter to DG anyway. They're probably so snowed under that they might not realise my claim has been struck out and send the money anyway! :rolleyes: Then again.:-|

 

Feel like I've been treated very unfairly. The courts have basically told me that the judge has made the decision, they cannot give me a reason, and do not have to, and that is that. Surely they have to give me a valid reason???

 

I'm determined to get MY money back. I'm not going to give up. Even if I have to start all over again from the beginning. It's the principle. I've worked hard for that money and it's mine.

 

Could really do with some advice if anyone is out there :oops:

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I have no special knowledge, but I would have thought that it couldn't do any harm to send a letter to the court manager referring to the wording of the order (which you say states the reason as non-payement of allocation fee - correct?) and explaining the situation.

 

I'm sure it must be possible to appeal against an order to strike out. It might be worth saying something like -Since the order appears to have been made as the result of a misunderstanding, I am sure that the situation can be resolved without my placing any additional burden on the courts by appealing against this decision. I would therefore ask that the order be rescinded, or such other steps be taken as are necessary to reinstate my claim.

 

Again, I don't have any special knowledge of how these things work, but that's what I would do in your situation.

 

best of luck!

 

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yes, and that is why in my aq thread and several other places we advise ringing the court when it says that the allocation questionaire is being dispensed with in a particular case to find out if the fee is still payable.

the fee is for the allocation of the case and not for the questionaire. most courts who dispense with the questionaire also do not ask for the fee but we have seen those who do - and they don't let you know that it is payable - the claimant needs to find out if it is payable. so, in answer to your question - yes - this is possible, we have seen it before.

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Also - just to clarify. The letter stating that my claim has been struck out because of failure to pay the allocation fee is the first time I have heard any mention of allocation at all. No questionairre and nothing saying they will be dispensing with the questionairre either.

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Ok you need to file for an order to have the strike out reversed or set aside.

It would also be a good idea to start your own thread in your bank section.......advantages are that we can look back on your history (if you have been keeping it up to date of course)

For the moment though I will leave it here.

To be honest I am a little confused about what I am reading especially since other posters are saying this is not a one off.

To be honest I have never heard of this.

Will come back to you after consulting with the team.

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martin, around 1 april when the first of the mcol were dispensing with the aq's we were merrily going on our way - about 4 weeks later - peeps were getting the info that they may have to pay the aq fee - so we - including crusher were kicking it around and started telling peeps to ring their local courts to ask if it were payable. we have seen several where it was told to them if it wasn't paid by such and such a date it would be thrown out but i don't know of any which actually were - most caught it before it was thrown out. it was bookworm i think who pointed out that we needed to tell people to check.

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The order received says:

 

IT IS ORDERED THAT:

 

1. The claimant having failed to pay the allocation fee, the claim is struck out.

 

That's it.

 

Lively - I will PM you back asap with the rest of my court correspondance.

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on my Notice of Transfer of Proceedings dated 16th June it states:

 

1. The filing of an allocation questionaire be dispensed with in this case unless the District Judge at the court of transfer orders otherwise. **

 

** Please note that an allocation fee may be payable in this instance. Please contact the court of transfer for further details.

 

 

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Ok I've just had a good look through my court letters and on my Notice of Transfer of Proceedings it does say that the filing of an allocation questionaire be dispensed with etc etc... feel really stupid now.

 

Guess i should have checked it properly and phoned my court to ask if the fee was still payable. Lateralus you were right.

 

Where do i go from here? Will I have to start my claim from the beginning again?

 

Feel like a proper idiot now!

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You need to dispute judgement, use the N244 The fee is £65 which you can not recover. Also should the judge allow this you need to pay the AQ fee. This will need to be submitted to your local (the court that sent order) Ring them and inform them that you intend to take this action they will also advise you.

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