bailiffs and sheriffs

[crasin]

update

 

went back to work and 1pm and got a phone call an hour later saying he's at the door! so she refused to open the door and i turned up approx 5min later and he told my wife he would wait but was nowhere to be seen....and posted a letter not in an envelope stating he will return without notice.....so i phoned him and asked what he hoped to achieve by visiting and his respose was "at least £697 odd p" so i replied by saying he had no chance and that i was going to contact council direct.....then he hung up....so called him back and he canceled my next 8-10 calls then finally answered and started waffling on about something to do with council wont do anything and that i would be wasting my time.............so said that i was going to complain to the council and the court where his licence was issued about the charges and conduct.....he hung up again......lol so called him again and explained no point visiting again as there's nothing here he can take and to not bother me again then i hung up..lol

 

 

crasin

[Seminole]

update

 

went back to work and 1pm and got a phone call an hour later saying he's at the door! so she refused to open the door and i turned up approx 5min later and he told my wife he would wait but was nowhere to be seen....and posted a letter not in an envelope stating he will return without notice.....so i phoned him and asked what he hoped to achieve by visiting and his respose was "at least £697 odd p" so i replied by saying he had no chance and that i was going to contact council direct.....then he hung up....so called him back and he canceled my next 8-10 calls then finally answered and started waffling on about something to do with council wont do anything and that i would be wasting my time.............so said that i was going to complain to the council and the court where his licence was issued about the charges and conduct.....he hung up again......lol so called him again and explained no point visiting again as there's nothing here he can take and to not bother me again then i hung up..lol

 

 

crasin

 

Now that's what I call harassment

[MARTIN3030]

yep must have really made his day....not

 

 

[Bonus77]

That sounds horrible Crasin. Hang in there though, there is no doubt about it, there main approach appears to be initimidation. How are you getting on with the council directly?

 

After my little problem with my C.Tax, I sent a letter of complaint to the council, and have now received a reply stating that my comments were taken on board, that they only use them as a last resort ( bullsh*t ), and that whilst they have advised the bailiff I have fully paid my liability order, they said the guy may still be calling to attempt to collect their fees!! ha ha..

 

We have been on a mini-lockdown for a couple of weeks now, but havent seen or heard from the bailiff at all.. not any correspondance. I am still keeping vilgilant, but in the mean time I intend to reply to the council stating I have no itention of allowing the bailiff access and therefore the fees will be passed back to the council in the hope they can confirm that I am now free and clear of bailiff hassles??

[elsinore]

We are indebted to malcontent for this

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general/14977-reporting-harassment.html

 

Elsinore

[alchemist]

Hello everybody, my first posting on this forum....hope it helps us all!

I have had some dealings with Drakes Bailiffs only yesterday.

I've had two unpaid parking tickets due to my being away from UK most of the time ,yestarday a bully boy from Drakes has turned up in my absence and has clamped my car. The car was parked in my own private drive.

My neighbour allerted me by phone while I was out of London (woke me up actually) to tell me that my car is clamped and is about to be towed away! I then proceeded to talk to the bailiff (a certain Paul Hawker) who informed me that I owe him £933.00!!

Well, I had to give him my debit card details over the phone so he won't remove my car!

Imagine my surprise when checking with my bank whether the transaction has gone through to be informed that there is an additional £301.00 charged by the said Mr. Hawker, totally unauthorised by me!! It later transpired that someone has apparently tampered with the clamp and the cowboy charged me for it!!

He's posted a receipt through my letter box for the charge for the clamp that has been "cut off".

It gets better though...

I started researching on the Internet and I came across a thread somewhere that mentions that bailiffs must have a "special licence in order to clamp on a private land".

I called the organisation in question-the Security Industry Authority, and having run a check on Mr.Hawker it transpired that he doesn't have the said licence. Moreover, he was acting wholly illegally in clamping my car in my drive!!!! Now I am consulting a lawyer to take up the fight and sort them(Drakes) out. It looks like a wrapped up case.....or does it?

What do you think? I will be interested in your opinion,

Thanks

 

P.S. OF COURSE THE OVERCHARGING, CHARGES FOR LETTERS AND VISITS-ALL MADE UP. I GOT ONE LETTER IN ALL FROM DRAKES!!!

 

There certainly are - I'm one of them!

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4411&highlight=Bailiffs

 

I got Equita bang to rights. Next is Drakes.

 

I am preparing some FAQ's - excessive work load has slowed me down these last couple of weeks, sorry BF. I will have them sorted asap.

[MARTIN3030]

My god :o all that for a parking ticket?

 

There are some pretty clued up dudes on here who would be interested to hear about this.

 

I know you are contactin/have contacted a brief but there are steps you can take yourself.

 

Chrismc has done lots of research on this and am sure he will give you some pointers.

Of course there are lots of advice forums to read but there are some real life experience stories here who have taken them on/are taking them on armed with baliff busting facts.

 

No doubt you will get lots of replies on this one.

It doesnt come much worse than this !!

 

[chrismc]

Hello everybody, my first posting on this forum....hope it helps us all!

I have had some dealings with Drakes Bailiffs only yesterday.

I've had two unpaid parking tickets due to my being away from UK most of the time ,yestarday a bully boy from Drakes has turned up in my absence and has clamped my car. The car was parked in my own private drive.

My neighbour allerted me by phone while I was out of London (woke me up actually) to tell me that my car is clamped and is about to be towed away! I then proceeded to talk to the bailiff (a certain Paul Hawker) who informed me that I owe him £933.00!!

Well, I had to give him my debit card details over the phone so he won't remove my car!

Imagine my surprise when checking with my bank whether the transaction has gone through to be informed that there is an additional £301.00 charged by the said Mr. Hawker, totally unauthorised by me!! It later transpired that someone has apparently tampered with the clamp and the cowboy charged me for it!!

He's posted a receipt through my letter box for the charge for the clamp that has been "cut off".

It gets better though...

I started researching on the Internet and I came across a thread somewhere that mentions that bailiffs must have a "special licence in order to clamp on a private land".

I called the organisation in question-the Security Industry Authority, and having run a check on Mr.Hawker it transpired that he doesn't have the said licence. Moreover, he was acting wholly illegally in clamping my car in my drive!!!! Now I am consulting a lawyer to take up the fight and sort them(Drakes) out. It looks like a wrapped up case.....or does it?

What do you think? I will be interested in your opinion,

Thanks

 

P.S. OF COURSE THE OVERCHARGING, CHARGES FOR LETTERS AND VISITS-ALL MADE UP. I GOT ONE LETTER IN ALL FROM DRAKES!!!

 

There certainly are - I'm one of them!

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4411&highlight=Bailiffs

 

I got Equita bang to rights. Next is Drakes.

 

I am preparing some FAQ's - excessive work load has slowed me down these last couple of weeks, sorry BF. I will have them sorted asap.

 

Alchemist

 

Horrendous!! I think you could take the same action I am taking on this, read my thread here Philips Bailiffs I am well down the road with this and expect fireworks very soon. It would be good to hear what your brief has to say though if you have already contacted him!! as what I am doing is new and not tested yet. If you have any questions just ask or PM me!!

 

Also here is another good thread started by Elsinore where a lot of info is posted and both are updated daily. Bailiffs and Sherriffs

 

and good luck that Paul Hawker has a lot to answer for.

 

Chris

[alchemist]

Hello everybody, my first posting on this forum....hope it helps us all!

I have had some dealings with Drakes Bailiffs only yesterday.

I've had two unpaid parking tickets due to my being away from UK most of the time ,yestarday a bully boy from Drakes has turned up in my absence and has clamped my car. The car was parked in my own private drive.

My neighbour allerted me by phone while I was out of London (woke me up actually) to tell me that my car is clamped and is about to be towed away! I then proceeded to talk to the bailiff (a certain Paul Hawker) who informed me that I owe him £933.00!!

Well, I had to give him my debit card details over the phone so he won't remove my car!

Imagine my surprise when checking with my bank whether the transaction has gone through to be informed that there is an additional £301.00 charged by the said Mr. Hawker, totally unauthorised by me!! It later transpired that someone has apparently tampered with the clamp and the cowboy charged me for it!!

He's posted a receipt through my letter box for the charge for the clamp that has been "cut off".

It gets better though...

I started researching on the Internet and I came across a thread somewhere that mentions that bailiffs must have a "special licence in order to clamp on a private land".

I called the organisation in question-the Security Industry Authority, and having run a check on Mr.Hawker it transpired that he doesn't have the said licence. Moreover, he was acting wholly illegally in clamping my car in my drive!!!! Now I am consulting a lawyer to take up the fight and sort them(Drakes) out. It looks like a wrapped up case.....or does it?

What do you think? I will be interested in your opinion,

Thanks

 

P.S. OF COURSE THE OVERCHARGING, CHARGES FOR LETTERS AND VISITS-ALL MADE UP. I GOT ONE LETTER IN ALL FROM DRAKES!!!

 

There certainly are - I'm one of them!

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4411&highlight=Bailiffs

 

I got Equita bang to rights. Next is Drakes.

 

I am preparing some FAQ's - excessive work load has slowed me down these last couple of weeks, sorry BF. I will have them sorted asap.

[alchemist]

Actually I came to realise some time ago that when the state abuses you and rips you off, it's actually better to avoid a direct confrontation. Let's just say I got my money back by other means

 

.....and I agree my friend! Maybe some small doses of Anarchy won't be so bad for this country! We are far too submissive it seems!

We are manipulated in outrageous ways!

If people really put their foot down, and demanded accountability and respect from their PUBLIC SERVANTS, we won't be in this mess, where a parking ticked will cost you £1000.00 in time! That's on top of paying highest premiums for driving your car in first place!

And don't even start me on Council Tax.....

[chrismc]

.....and I agree my friend! Maybe some small doses of Anarchy won't be so bad for this country! We are far too submissive it seems!

We are manipulated in outrageous ways!

If people really put their foot down, and demanded accountability and respect from their PUBLIC SERVANTS, we won't be in this mess, where a parking ticked will cost you £1000.00 in time! That's on top of paying highest premiums for driving your car in first place!

And don't even start me on Council Tax.....

 

he he seems we have a lot in common alchemist

 

And don't even start me on Council Tax....

 

he he and me neither :mad:

[alchemist]

Well it's true, the Albion is the most docile place known to me, they can paractically

b**ger you for pleasure here, without much reaction from the masses!

Mayor Livingstone is about to b**ger democracy back to the Stone Age...with just some heated debate on BBC Radio!

Some revolt and revolution that......

[elsinore]

We are manipulated in outrageous ways!

 

.......and it's getting worse!! Viz: the latest sparkling bit of legislation, the Empty Dwelling Management Orders.

 

Tsk!! Now you've got me started!!

 

Elsinore

[MARTIN3030]

Well it's true, the Albion is the most docile place known to me, they can paractically

b**ger you for pleasure here, without much reaction from the masses!

Mayor Livingstone is about to b**ger democracy back to the Stone Age...with just some heated debate on BBC Radio!

Some revolt and revolution that......

 

What is amazing here tho is Ken has never been a man without followers......the media attention he has had over the years makes him more famous than our own bloody queen !!

The reason for that is because he has been so contraversial his reputation has stood him out loud from the rest ,his old title used to be a marxist........red Ken

he spoke out loud about thatcherism about capitalism about just about everything Ken did not believe in a peoples man if you werent a capitalist.

 

He was expelled from the labour party............but came back to haunt them by taking on the biggest cherry in UK mayorship but he ws put there because the people of London voted for him.

They knew of his history his arrogance and his beliefs.........like him or loath him he is in office...............becaise the people in LBC voted for him.

If he has now changed his spots its then the same people that voted for him must remember........Ken is not a man of the people...but a man of Ken alone

[alchemist]

Sorry Elsi, looks like I am adding fuel to the fire....

Raging volcano more like....

Eventually I will emigrate, I just know it! If this country continues with its blatant disregard to it's citizens, what joy is there in living here, just to die a bitter old man, in front of the tv, with Coronation Street on?

Seriously though, bailiffs & sheriffs are tip of the iceberg and a result of successive administrations not wishing nor caring to do ANYTHING about faceless corporations messing ordinary folk up! Oh, and huge amout of GREED!!!

I sound like a lefty right now, but I am not, I promisse you! I am actually a bit of a capitalist, but as an employer I treat people fairly and as a consumer I demand the same!

Ordinary people MUST take a stand! I mean, if we expect Governments to help us...God help us! Just a short list of some of the recent history "upstanding" citizens (MPs) meant to rule us: John Prescott, Jeffrey Archer, J.Aitken, Blunkett, Tessa Jowell & hubby, Peter Mandelson,Mayor Ken (of course) and other beloved personalities....Please feel free to add more....(and sorry for drifting completely off course, but searching for the roots of the Evil...)

Prescott is my favourite though, he even looks like a bailiff!

[alchemist]

If he has now changed his spots its then the same people that voted for him must remember........Ken is not a man of the people...but a man of Ken alone

 

 

I totally agree!

Ken reminds me of Prince Phillip, for putting his foot in the public cake quite spectacularly! And with a full knowledge of doing so, congratulating himself in the process!

Why can't this great City have a proper leader and represenatation for goodness sake!!!????

[alchemist]

If he has now changed his spots its then the same people that voted for him must remember........Ken is not a man of the people...but a man of Ken alone

 

 

I totally agree!

Ken reminds me of Prince Phillip, for putting his foot in the public cake quite spectacularly! And with a full knowledge of doing so, congratulating himself in the process!

Why can't this great City have a proper leader and represenatation for goodness sake!!!????

 

Sorry, forgot that Ken himself keeps most bailiffs in employment!Silly me!!!

[MARTIN3030]

If he has now changed his spots its then the same people that voted for him must remember........Ken is not a man of the people...but a man of Ken alone

 

 

I totally agree!

Ken reminds me of Prince Phillip, for putting his foot in the public cake quite spectacularly! And with a full knowledge of doing so, congratulating himself in the process!

Why can't this great City have a proper leader and represenatation for goodness sake!!!????

 

London needs a new mayor and a mayor thats in touch with its people.....I dont blame him for introducing the congestion charge.....London is a big place and whatever they can do they will never stop congestion.

I am from the North West and fortunate to be able to get home quite easy after working in Liverpool Manchester wales or Preston.

I have worked in Bucks Oxford Wiltshire Surrey and London itself.

The money was good but the travelling and queuing was far from

I remember leaving Oxford at 4 am in the morning to beat traffic and get to work in wimbledon for 8.00am..trouble is everyone else did the same so the roads still busy.

used to come home t weekends nd just sleep !!

 

nothing changed over the lasr 20 years except now we know we can claim our bank charges ..................if I had known this then I would have travelled forst class from Euton!

[poorgirl]

i have to pay a bailiff £239 by 20th July 2006 thing is i dont get paid until the 21st July 2006.

 

I spoke to my bank [ HSBC hmm] who said they will not honor the debit payment on 20th July by solo card to teh bailiffas ther will not be cleared funds in my account .Very rigid given that my wages will be paid into the bank the very next day as usual.

 

Now i am worried that if i call on 21st july to pay by debit card when my wages are in the bank that they will charge me more money for some sort of late payment or bailiff call out [eg dropping card through my letter box]

 

I offered to part pay last month but was advised that if i part pay this will incur more charges as a part payment triggers visits and stops time to pay.

 

I cant really afford to pay all this money in one go .

 

Any suggestions?

 

Surely they cannot insist on me defaulting by one day? I want to pay it and get them off my back ...

 

help..

[MARTIN3030]

Can you tell us the nature of the debt?

 

Is it following a court judgement council tax or what?

Has a walking poss order been made?

[chrismc]

i have to pay a bailiff £239 by 20th July 2006 thing is i dont get paid until the 21st July 2006.

 

I spoke to my bank [ HSBC hmm] who said they will not honor the debit payment on 20th July by solo card to teh bailiffas ther will not be cleared funds in my account .Very rigid given that my wages will be paid into the bank the very next day as usual.

 

Now i am worried that if i call on 21st july to pay by debit card when my wages are in the bank that they will charge me more money for some sort of late payment or bailiff call out [eg dropping card through my letter box]

 

I offered to part pay last month but was advised that if i part pay this will incur more charges as a part payment triggers visits and stops time to pay.

 

I cant really afford to pay all this money in one go .

 

Any suggestions?

 

Surely they cannot insist on me defaulting by one day? I want to pay it and get them off my back ...

 

help..

Poorgirl

 

You need to tell us more about this eg, what is the debt for, Council Tax etc, how old is it, have the Bailiffs been in your house, have you signed a walking possession and anything else of use, without that we cannot advise you correctly.

 

If it helps read my thread here

 

Chris

[MARTIN3030]

oops........great minds think...........

let you ask as you are a dedicated baliff buster

 

 

[poorgirl]

its a tfl debt no walking possesion order, not visited house yet but will if i cannot pay on the 20th.

[poorgirl]

Its a TFL debt fo driving in a bus lane - no walking possession order, no bailiff visit yet [possibly after the 20th]

[chrismc]

Its a TFL debt fo driving in a bus lane - no walking possession order, no bailiff visit yet [possibly after the 20th]

 

Ok if they do turn up, under NO circumstances let them in your house, no ,matter what they say or promise, once in you have no leverage at all!! Don't even open the door to them. Make sure you park your car behind locked gates on your drive or try and hide it somewhere until this is over.

 

If you have to pay up, see if you can pay it in 2 or 3 or more lumps. Who issued the original fine or whatever it is?? there are people on here who have more knowledege of traffic/parking legislation than me, but if it is legal and has to be paid what about sending off a letter to whoever issued the ticket/summons etc and send them a few post dated cheques, try and buy yourself some time, so as not to pay it all in one go.

 

Again do some searches on here for the same type of offence as you need to know what the law states on this, I have found some bits which may help.

 

What is the law for use of a bus lane?

 

Bus and tram lanes. These are shown by road markings and signs. You must not drive or stop in a tram lane or in a bus lane during its period of operation unless the signs indicate you may do so.

 

Parking Fines What can you be fined for?

Traffic Wardens still enforce all moving offences including driving in a bus lane during its hours of operation, unauthorised driving through the Clear Zone. Contravention of any moving offence is an automatic summons to court and not a fixed penalty notice, therefore the fine will vary according to the offence.

Any illegally parked vehicle could be removed, but the priorities are:-

 

 

 

Bus Lanes and Bus Stop Clearways

Disabled parking bays

Taxi bays

Loading bays

Main arterial routes into and out of the City

Any other street where illegal parking could block the access for emergency vehicles

 

Is any of the above relevant to you????