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    • Hi, I've been reading the invaluable advice on this forum and reading about the problems with Evri and lost delivery of items.  From what I gather the initial steps after having exhausted every's own lost item claim process is to draft a Letter of Claim, I think it is called and to register with the government Money Claims.  I have got a login for Money Claims and have made an initial stab at the letter but I'm not certain I have got it right. Am I right to assume that having exhausted Evri customer service's claims process and having received the denial of any compensation because the laptop I was sending is on the non-compensatory list that my next step would be to send the Letter of Claim to them? Let me provide some basic details which I hopefully have addressed in the letter. I purchased a laptop through Amazon.co.uk which a business in Belfast sold refurbished laptops through.  They had a 30 day money back guarantee for a full refund if you have any issues with the laptop.  I have the invoice from Amazon showing the purchase.  On 27 April, 2024 before the end of the 30 day period I used their ParcelShop (inside a Tesco) to send the laptop back and have the tracking reference mentioned in the letter.  As mentioned in the letter there was they advised they could not give me or sell me any insurance because laptops are on the non-compensatory list so I just paid the normal delivery cost.  It was scanned as leaving the ParcelShop on 29 April and the tracking has been like that ever since.  After a 28 working day Evri claim process they gave the expected response that they could not provide any compensation and simply could not proceed with my claim. I was hoping to get some advice on whether I go ahead now and email this to Customer Services straightaway and should I send a hard-copy to the Evri address as well?  Or are there any steps I have missed out on first?  I believe 14 days is the reasonable period of time for them to respond so if I were to send it tomorrow, for example 12 June then I should expect a reply by 26 June, is that correct and fair?  And assuming they don't reply with a full refund then I would then go down the government Money Claims site to proceed with that? Sorry for all the questions, I want to make sure I go about it properly.  I'll continue to read through other cases on here so I can get an even better handle on the process. I attached a LOC, happy for any edits or updates that will make it even better. Thanks so much for anyone's help! Regards, Matt Evri letter of claim.docx
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    • Hi friends,  I’m a bit worried I may have got confused with timings here. I thought I had 33 days from my acknowledgment to submit a defence but the date added above says 3/6/24.   have I missed the date?   if so how can I apply for an exception due to my disability and problems with deadlines and dates etc (ADHD)?   what should I submit as a defence?   I’ve had no reply from BW so far    just been back on MCOL and it says 28 days from service if I completed an acknowledgment of service so does that mean 28 days from that of acknowledgement (I.e. 16/5) which would make deadline for defence 14/6?   Thanks! Panicking here.
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Thanks guys ;)

 

would i receive anything from mcol telling me the case has been moved, as they state on the website they received the defence and are moving to local court, however that was last wednesday and still havent heard anything

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it might take a while, but it will happen, you will receive notification soon enough :-) I think that they are inundated - cant imagine why

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Hi ICY,

Lula's right,the courts are inundated at the moment.Both of my cases are held up in the backlog and I've just got to sit and wait-bit frustrating though.

Glad

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Afternoon Icy,

 

This is the hardest bit now waiting, waiting & even more waiting! You can spend the time reading up on the next stage OR you can chat to us angels!!!;) or both of course! :p LOL

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I feel pretty confident i know what to expect next stage, and like i say i really dont mind waiting i am not in desperate need of the money, so the longer they have it the more they are gonna have to give me back.

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I have just had a though, is it worth me contacting someone at abbey in an attempt to reach a settlement as it stands today including interest (8%) and court fees the figure owed is £2,104.62 If i contacted them and offered to settle for £2,000 what do you reckon the response would be, the charges themselves only amount to £1,722 so i would be more than happy with £2k They seem to like cutting off their nose to spite their face, had they paid up when i first asked they would have saved themselves a few hundred, and of course it continues to rise daily.

 

Plus of course when it goes to court i will be claiming transport costs and for prep of bundle and ink/copying ect which should amount to a pretty figure, so it makes sense for them to cough up, just not sure how i could word it, if i had an idea how long before it would likely arrive at court then i could guess at what the final figure could be

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ICY.........

 

I hope to God you have an efficient filing system to cope with all your claims and a van from Securicor on hand ;):D

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Fight incompetance, stupidity, greed and unfairness......There's no excuse and no place for it in society, unless they really are! :wink:

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hehehe, i just cant wait till the rest of the statements come so i can get them added up too lol, i am loving this, its like some new form of sport, and so very addictive lol

 

apparently m-i-ls barclays account should be a belter as apparently they have been applying a £8 per day charge for months lol

 

very effedtive filing system i have, which is actually extremely unusual for me, as i tend to lose nearly everything.

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BUMP Anyone have any advice and possbily an email address ???? :)

 

I have just had a though, is it worth me contacting someone at abbey in an attempt to reach a settlement as it stands today including interest (8%) and court fees the figure owed is £2,104.62 If i contacted them and offered to settle for £2,000 what do you reckon the response would be, the charges themselves only amount to £1,722 so i would be more than happy with £2k They seem to like cutting off their nose to spite their face, had they paid up when i first asked they would have saved themselves a few hundred, and of course it continues to rise daily.

 

Plus of course when it goes to court i will be claiming transport costs and for prep of bundle and ink/copying ect which should amount to a pretty figure, so it makes sense for them to cough up, just not sure how i could word it, if i had an idea how long before it would likely arrive at court then i could guess at what the final figure could be

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Would someone please look over this draft email before i send it and let me know if anything should be added or removed please

 

Claim number XXXXXXX

Acc No XXXXXXXXXXX

 

I am writing this email as a final offer of settlement before the case appears before the court, i am making this offer in an effort to reduce the costs to yourself before i prepare the bundle, which as you will be aware will also incur you additional costs. I am aware of the large amount of claims which you are currently dealing with and to assist your workload, i believe it would help all concerned to settle this matter out of court.

 

It is well documented that you have no intention of ever going to full hearing, shown by the fact that you have settled X??? number of claims at the last minute before going to court, and it would be beneficial to all parties, including the court system that this matter is dealt with out of of court.

 

You will be aware that the courts are now starting to dismiss the allocation questionaire, and upon receiving notification of AQ being dismissed in this case i shall be writing to the court requesting the strike out of your proforma defence as an abuse of process.

 

My claim amount as of today stands at £2104.98 including court fees and interest, i am prepared to settle this matter for the sum of £2100 (Two thousand One hundred pounds) just incase she gets confused lol i am sure you are well aware this figure is rising on a daily basis, and will increase with the cost of completed the bundle, preperation of the bundle including photocopying costs and ink costs and the cost of time to prepare the bundle, further court costs and transport and postage costs. As you can see settling this matter now, would be mutually beneficial, This is the least amount i am prepared to settle for, for any avoidance of doubt refusal to settle will not stop the legal action against you, i will be following the legal process to the end.

 

This settlement offer is valid for a period of 7 days, after this period has expired, the matter will be dealt with by the court system.

I am hoping we can come to an amicable agreement on this matter.

 

I look forward to receiving your prompt response

 

yours ..... blah blah blah

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sorry who said that lol

 

 

think i will just send it anyway, cant hurt anything and i havent marked it w/p so i can show it to the judge to prove i keep giving them oportunity to settle

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slightly amended it to read as follows before i sent it

 

Claim number X

Acc No X

I am writing this email as a final offer of settlement before the case appears before the court, I am making this offer in an effort to reduce the costs to yourself before I prepare the bundle, which as you will be aware will also incur you additional costs. I am aware of the large amount of claims which you are currently dealing with and to assist your workload, I believe it would help all concerned to settle this matter out of court.

It is well documented that you have no intention of ever going to full hearing, shown by the fact that you have settled an extremely large number of claims at the last minute before going to court, and it would be beneficial to all parties, including the court system that this matter is dealt with out of court.

You will be aware that the courts are now starting to dismiss with the allocation questionaire, and upon receiving notification of AQ being dismissed in this case I shall be writing to the court requesting the strike out of your proforma defence as an abuse of process.

My claim amount as of today stands at £2104.98 including court fees and interest, I am prepared to settle this matter for the sum of £2100 (Two thousand One hundred pounds) I am sure you are well aware this figure is rising on a daily basis, and will increase with the cost of completing the bundle, preperation of the bundle, including photocopying costs, ink costs, and the cost of time to prepare the bundle, further court costs and transport and postage costs. As you can see settling this matter now, would be mutually beneficial.

This is the least amount I am prepared to settle for, for any avoidance of doubt refusal to settle will not stop the legal action against you, I shall be following the legal process to the end.

This settlement offer is valid for a period of 7 days, after this period has expired, the matter will be dealt with by the court system.

I am hoping we can come to an amicable agreement on this matter.

I look forward to receiving your prompt response

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Gues what i just got

 

Dear Sir

 

"Without Prejudice"

 

Thank you for your email.

 

I am instructed to reject your offer and make a counter offer to you in the sum

of £1683.98. Payment would be made without admission of liability by Abbey.

Payment would be in full and final settlement of your claim. Payment would be

made into your account (if open) or posted to you. Upon receipt of the

settlement monies we would ask you to please write to the Court withdrawing your

claim and provide to us a copy of your letter. Should you wish to accept this

offer, please advise by return in order that payment can be processed.

 

Kind regards,

 

Inga Kirkman

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