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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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I think you need to hear from the court to find out what's happening. If it was being looked at last week they should know something by now so ring again. I'm not a fan of nudging the banks and believe in letting them do the running, while the court act for you. After all you've put it in their hands now.

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Ok rang the court, they have set it for a hearing on 1st August *gulp* said they will send details out in next few days. Home stretch now

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That's good news Jess. Might be time to start thinking about your bundle so you have plenty of time to get it in order and see what you need. This link will help.http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/33060-basic-court-bundle.html

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Yeh i am waiting for the letter confirming the date etc Caro so i can see what i actually need to take etc...

 

Anyoldname, i logged into internet banking and where you click on statement it asks you for the month and then what format you want to download in, not sure how far back it goes as i have only been with them about 18 months

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Ok i am stressed lol, i have received my details from the court. Its been set 'Notice of allocation to the small Claims Track (Hearing)

 

Gonna have a break this weekend and start sorting all the needed information. I downloaded all the statements, and heard these were ok, please confirm this is right b4 i start panicking more hehe.

 

There is no mention of the draft direction request i applied for and they have scheduled a full hour for the hearing

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Bump can someone confirm i can use downloaded statements, printed out in excel version, i made my claim from these and never had original statements so ive had it if not, but would be better if i was prepared for this.

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Bump can someone confirm i can use downloaded statements, printed out in excel version, i made my claim from these and never had original statements so ive had it if not, but would be better if i was prepared for this.
Just MHO Jess, but I'd've thought they'd be as acceptable as the statements we receive each month. After all it is a record of your account as provided via the A&L internet banking site, and as such is a legitimate and official 'statement of account'.

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did you get your full details of what you had to send?

 

I note on one post today - the judge said dont bother with the bundle - what have they asked you for ?

 

is it a full hearing or directions hearing?

 

I just found a section I had missed - "guidance notes" ( under FAQ and library etc)

 

Jansus

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

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Just says

Each party shall deliver to every other party and to the court office copies of all documents (including any expert reports) on which he intends to rely on at the hearing no later then 14 days before the hearing.

 

The original documents shall be brought to the hearing.

 

So presume thats as much as i can collate.

 

Can i also ask, the case lists that has been won, can i just print the list out with the name/case number etc... or will i need individual case histories... Im a bit concerned about the bundle i need and fighting to keep stress levels under control, already on to walking sticks again :evil:

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dont be insulted :D thought these might help

court bundles for dummies :o

GOT A COURT DATE? A guide to the later stages Case guidance notes - bringing your case to court

 

it might be worth pm to michael browne or even a call to the court just to double check what you need as it would be a shame to prepare the court bundle if you dont need it?

 

Also did you see the letter that Bob the Cabbie sol wrote as a nudge letter to the sol that made them pay up.

 

As you have a court date it may be worth another letter showing court you have made every effort - maybe you could personalise oneof the ones in this thread adding more about your personal circumstances

 

 

New---after 28 Days - Maybe No Aq!!!!!!!

 

 

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

"What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well." - Antione de Saint Exupery

 

 

PROUD TO BE AN ORANGE

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Jansus im am sooo not insulted lol, believe me the title fits me well :D

 

Will have a good scout through it today and get most of it collated, printed and ready to send off

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thought this might boost your morale a bit:p

 

ruling today at Hull

 

jansus:)

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

"What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well." - Antione de Saint Exupery

 

 

PROUD TO BE AN ORANGE

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hehe cool :D

 

Had a quick scan tru the dummies section :D gonna start printing 2morro and hopefully posted by weekend ish

 

A+L have charged my another £227 since i started proceedings, when do i start sending a letter to get this amount back, obviously now i have my court date i cant change it.... shud i wait or set the wheels in motion?

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Ok printed off about half my bundle and i ran outta paper ;) Will print my copy off b4 i go court on the optimistic view they will settle b4 i need to waste more resources. Going to finish bundle 2morro then i am set.

 

Mimi can i be cheeky... wot did u put in ur statement of evidence... im feeling major dum cos the bundle for dummies confused me a little on this bit and i wanted to make sure i had it right b4 i print off stuff.

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can anyone tell me what the basic needs for the statement of evidence are? feel mega dumb, but cant get my head round it. Need to get this finished today and posted by tues latest in order that they have it b4 14 days deadline is up, it is creeping up fast

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Hi Jesse I cannot find anything regarding "the statement of evidence" thats me being "mega dumb"someone will help. I have put these links up these may be of help....................

Witness statement info from karneval via Mimijane.....

Examples of Witness Statements / Disclosure by List / Draft Directions / Case Summary

 

I am sorry but I have lost the "Example of Witness Statement" I was going to use it will be here " **************** " when I find it.

 

here it is from celicaman post 3 I think...............

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/alliance-leicester/102862-court-date-help-needed.html

 

There is a "Statement of Truth" which is formal confirmation that the court documents are true, for example a statement of case or a witness statement. This is at the end of the document that is being submitted.

 

This at the bottom of my MCOL...........

 

I am the claimant - I believe that the facts stated in this

claim form are true.

Signed Me

Claimant

 

William :)

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Looking at the most recent threads, there seems to be a bit more movement on the settlement front from A&L, following the Hull decision. Lets hope you get yours soon - good luck!

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Found this :D thanks for help, going to adapt this one best i can...

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/guidance-notes/64911-got-court-date-guide.html

 

 

 

oops Jansus posted that link earlier... sorry havin an odd day

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yayyyy flags out im almost done, just a last grovel for help... has any1 got a shorter concise version of the 'office of fair trading report - april 06' as its 30 odd pages long and dont really want to print 2 of them off unless i really really have to

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Hi Jess see post two on thread below posted by moderator

 

problems findind OFT'S report

 

 

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

"What makes the desert beautiful is that somewhere it hides a well." - Antione de Saint Exupery

 

 

PROUD TO BE AN ORANGE

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Great thanks, got wot i needed and i am all set, just statement of evidence to do now and were off to the post office

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